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It’s ok I’ve found it.

It is certainly reprehensible that people want to post such things on social media, I agree that they have been suspended and that an investigation is to be held, the quicker the better. Rasicism should play no part in a civilised society and one that is inclusive like ours is.
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:15 am Rasicism should play no part in a civilised society and one that is inclusive like ours is.
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More meat on the bones of Tory Party/Russian corruption.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ney-report
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Pretty sure it's Jezza that's the commie and into the Russians, maxy.
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RedO wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:23 pm Pretty sure it's Jezza that's the commie and into the Russians, maxy.
You're getting your East European authoritarian states mixed up. JC is a Czech spy.
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Uit also mentions labour governments so they are both at it.
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:25 pm Uit also mentions labour governments so they are both at it.
Indeed but under JC's New Old Labour Party there is a chance it might happen less.
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:25 pm Uit also mentions labour governments so they are both at it.
Before you drag Blairs Labour into this and reduce the debate to a spiral of fukwittery can you please acknowledge and condemn the danger to UK democracy of the Tories accepting huge donations from Russian kleptocrats.
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No not blaming anyone as the facts are not being published. So as it stands it taints both parties.
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:31 pm No not blaming anyone as the facts are not being published. So as it stands it taints both parties.
So you refuse to condemn the corruption of UK democracy by Russian Kleptocrats. Fair enough. I have passed your details on to MI5.
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I work for the service so don't bother, only joking. If it can be proven and currently it hasn't been then of course it is deplorable, but until we have facts then it's a bit speculative isn't it?
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Max B Gold wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:35 pm
Thor wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:31 pm No not blaming anyone as the facts are not being published. So as it stands it taints both parties.
So you refuse to condemn the corruption of UK democracy by Russian Kleptocrats. Fair enough. I have passed your details on to MI5.
Why, do you want it to get back to the Russians?
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:31 pm No not blaming anyone as the facts are not being published. So as it stands it taints both parties.
It's good that the Government are covering all this up to spare Labour's blushes.
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:36 pm I work for the service so don't bother, only joking. If it can be proven and currently it hasn't been then of course it is deplorable, but until we have facts then it's a bit speculative isn't it?
You on the Deludamol tablets again?

It has been proven but Boris won't allow the report to be published. What about the Boris and Dave Tennis match the Klepto's wife paid the Tories £160k for? That's in the public domain.
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Max the report needs to be published I think we agree on that, until its published it's all conjecture.

Redo government might be different parties at different times, but they will cover each others arses when it suits both parties. Of that I'm convinced.

It doesn't smaell nice thats for sure.
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I see Thor, so when its the Tories we should give them the benefit of the doubt and wait until we get firm evidence but when its Labour we should jump to the least charitable interpretation and rush to judgement regardless of the lack of actual evidence. Gotcha.
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Several months ago I pointed out a case of this in the Tory party where a councillor was suspended and very quickly reinstated as the majority in the town hall would have been lost. I was accused of whataboutery at the time, it seems you can mention any failings in any parties except one.

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ETR and Mikero, I can't stand politicians, councillors or whoever in places of trust and public offence talking the piss it drives me mad. I don't care what or who they are I detest them to the bottom of my shoes.

This Russian situation don't look to good, the guardian article said it affected both parties, but probably the tories more, what needs to happen is transparency and we will not be getting that anytime soon. We need honesty from the house and we need respect from.the house, neither of which I see happening anytime soon.

So I keep getting asked who am I going to vote for, I still don't know cos I am not sure I trust any of them.
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Thor wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:52 pm ETR and Mikero, I can't stand politicians, councillors or whoever in places of trust and public offence talking the p*ss it drives me mad. I don't care what or who they are I detest them to the bottom of my shoes.

This Russian situation don't look to good, the guardian article said it affected both parties, but probably the tories more, what needs to happen is transparency and we will not be getting that anytime soon. We need honesty from the house and we need respect from.the house, neither of which I see happening anytime soon.

So I keep getting asked who am I going to vote for, I still don't know cos I am not sure I trust any of them.
It's not "the house" that's hiding the report into Russian interference with the Tory Party and denying you your transparency - it's No 10 Downing St - unless that's what you meant by the house - in which case why leave your statement ambiguous ? (I wonder?)
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No I know no.10 is withholding the report. I still standby my comments about the houses of parliament.
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This is so exciting, waiting to see who’s going to get Thor’s X. It’s all still up for grabs!
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He will be impressed by the transparency within the NHS (in England) where the waiting lists are the worst since measuring them began. Along with the failure to meet unambitious targets in other areas such as cancer treatment.
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Max B Gold wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:21 pm More meat on the bones of Tory Party/Russian corruption.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ney-report
A legal challenge has been mounted

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/s ... nce-report

I suspect that Johnson is counting on running down the clock on this time-critical information while he attends primary school classes and other 'safe' photo opportunities (where he doesn't get challenged).
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Max B Gold wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:49 pm He will be impressed by the transparency within the NHS (in England) where the waiting lists are the worst since measuring them began. Along with the failure to meet unambitious targets in other areas such as cancer treatment.
This highlights the danger of putting the nhs in the hands of Corbyn, apparently.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/1 ... rds-began/
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The rustling of straws being clutched.

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