Election watch

[jamespevans]

That mail front page is so bad. What dinlows still buy it in this day and age?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs/the_papers

Trouble is Redo Steptoe will drag this country backwards into an unmitigated disaster. His policies don't and won't work, show me a country where his style policies work?

You probably need to be more specific oh hammer-wielding god. Which particular policies are you referring to, e.g. rail nationalisation?

[Thor]

Funny enough I actually agree with rationalisation of the rail network. The trouble is he intends to do it across several sectors and the cost to do so would be huge, the loss of inward investment would also be massive as no one will invest in this country where the government at it's own whim can privatise the sectors its wants to.

I don't agree with axing of private schools and or inward assimilation in to the state sector.

I don't agree with landlord bashing that they intend to do. We struggle to provide enough homes now for people, disenfranchisement with landlords will only make the situation worse. Could landlords be better, yes some can for sure, why not set standards that must be attained thus keeping good quality landlords whilst removing the worse kind. Landlords are leaving in their droves, look at the for sale sections of properties with sitting tenants to see that.

Inheritance tax is possibly the worst tax there is. You have already paid all your taxes, sometimes more than once and then when you die they want to hit you again. How can you help the next generation if the government is going to whip away amy help that you may be able to give. I understand you can get around this, but the aet up costs can be high and for normal people its possibly not possible to set the funds up cheaply.

There is 4 to start with.

[Story of O]

That mail front page is so bad. What dinlows still buy it in this day and age?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs/the_papers

Trouble is Redo Steptoe will drag this country backwards into an unmitigated disaster. His policies don't and won't work, show me a country where his style policies work?

Sorry but I can't put up with this drivel any longer. Consider yourself foed.

Why not answer his question.

[Long slender neck]

Is this thread about the upcoming moderator election?

[Thor]

Trouble is Redo Steptoe will drag this country backwards into an unmitigated disaster. His policies don't and won't work, show me a country where his style policies work?

Sorry but I can't put up with this drivel any longer. Consider yourself foed.

Why not answer his question.

Trouble is he never does all he ever says is nonsense as he never faces the questions or points posed.

[spen666]

Is this thread about the upcoming moderator election?

I thought you would have received advanced notice of the result of the forthcoming election.

Its public knowledge out here in the wastelands

[Max B Gold]

Trouble is Redo Steptoe will drag this country backwards into an unmitigated disaster. His policies don't and won't work, show me a country where his style policies work?

Sorry but I can't put up with this drivel any longer. Consider yourself foed.

Why not answer his question.

Foed.

[Thor]

Max I never answer a point gold

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Max I never answer a point gold

Takes after Corbyn.

[Story of O]

Seems if you dont agree with everything Max says, you are a wrong,un.

[Max B Gold]

Obviously as they are on my foe list i am unable to read the last three posts and I thank the Lord for small mercies.

I bet they were a mix of drivel and utter sh1t.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Seems if you dont agree with everything Max says, you are a wrong,un.

A good sign I’d say.

[Red_Army]

Max I never answer a point gold

Takes after Corbyn.

Did you follow PMQs today?

[StillSpike]

Inheritance tax is possibly the worst tax there is. You have already paid all your taxes, sometimes more than once and then when you die they want to hit you again. How can you help the next generation if the government is going to whip away amy help that you may be able to give. I understand you can get around this, but the aet up costs can be high and for normal people its possibly not possible to set the funds up cheaply.

Funnily enough, I think that Inheritance Tax is the absolute fairest tax there is. The person who's died doesn't need the money any more, and the person who stands to inherit didn't earn it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

The notion that "you've already paid tax on the money when you earned it **" is also a misdirection. You pay tax at all sorts of transactions - you don't get to say "hang on, I already paid income tax on my cash, so now I shouldn't have to pay tax on my petrol, or VAT on this product, or duty on my cigarettes".

Maybe the best way to help the next generation is to leave a society where everyone has access to good healthcare and education, where everyone kept safe by adequate policing and a proper social security safety net should things go wrong. Giving YOUR next generation a hand up by shafting everybody else's next generation just leads to continued inequality.

Plus, of course, threshold limits are set pretty high - you can still pass on the family home usually, for example. If you're the Duke of Roxburgh, on the other hand, you shouldn't be able to pass on the 700 family homes scott free, in my opinion. All the big stramash about IHT seems to be people owning millions and billions stirring up people with just the one house - who stands to lose the most, I wonder.

** note > Of course, not all wealth held at death has been "earned" (or indeed taxed). Much of it's been inherited itself from previous generations, or is a result of house price inflation or other unearned sources.

[Red_Army]

Inheritance tax is possibly the worst tax there is. You have already paid all your taxes, sometimes more than once and then when you die they want to hit you again. How can you help the next generation if the government is going to whip away amy help that you may be able to give. I understand you can get around this, but the aet up costs can be high and for normal people its possibly not possible to set the funds up cheaply.

Funnily enough, I think that Inheritance Tax is the absolute fairest tax there is. The person who's died doesn't need the money any more, and the person who stands to inherit didn't earn it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

The notion that "you've already paid tax on the money when you earned it **" is also a misdirection. You pay tax at all sorts of transactions - you don't get to say "hang on, I already paid income tax on my cash, so now I shouldn't have to pay tax on my petrol, or VAT on this product, or duty on my cigarettes".

Maybe the best way to help the next generation is to leave a society where everyone has access to good healthcare and education, where everyone kept safe by adequate policing and a proper social security safety net should things go wrong. Giving YOUR next generation a hand up by shafting everybody else's next generation just leads to continued inequality.

Plus, of course, threshold limits are set pretty high - you can still pass on the family home usually, for example. If you're the Duke of Roxburgh, on the other hand, you shouldn't be able to pass on the 700 family homes scott free, in my opinion. All the big stramash about IHT seems to be people owning millions and billions stirring up people with just the one house - who stands to lose the most, I wonder.

** note > Of course, not all wealth held at death has been "earned" (or indeed taxed). Much of it's been inherited itself from previous generations, or is a result of house price inflation or other unearned sources.

But that is far too sensible.

[Mikero]

"The trouble is he intends to do it across several sectors and the cost to do so would be huge"

I thought the idea was to take each franchise in house as it expired thus removing the cost of buying out the TOCs. All the stock is leased so nothing there to buy and National Rail already own the stations and track. All in all sounds like a good idea.

Mikero

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Inheritance tax is possibly the worst tax there is. You have already paid all your taxes, sometimes more than once and then when you die they want to hit you again. How can you help the next generation if the government is going to whip away amy help that you may be able to give. I understand you can get around this, but the aet up costs can be high and for normal people its possibly not possible to set the funds up cheaply.

Funnily enough, I think that Inheritance Tax is the absolute fairest tax there is. The person who's died doesn't need the money any more, and the person who stands to inherit didn't earn it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

The notion that "you've already paid tax on the money when you earned it **" is also a misdirection. You pay tax at all sorts of transactions - you don't get to say "hang on, I already paid income tax on my cash, so now I shouldn't have to pay tax on my petrol, or VAT on this product, or duty on my cigarettes".

Maybe the best way to help the next generation is to leave a society where everyone has access to good healthcare and education, where everyone kept safe by adequate policing and a proper social security safety net should things go wrong. Giving YOUR next generation a hand up by shafting everybody else's next generation just leads to continued inequality.

Plus, of course, threshold limits are set pretty high - you can still pass on the family home usually, for example. If you're the Duke of Roxburgh, on the other hand, you shouldn't be able to pass on the 700 family homes scott free, in my opinion. All the big stramash about IHT seems to be people owning millions and billions stirring up people with just the one house - who stands to lose the most, I wonder.

** note > Of course, not all wealth held at death has been "earned" (or indeed taxed). Much of it's been inherited itself from previous generations, or is a result of house price inflation or other unearned sources.

Personally if I thought all my money would go to the state after I died I’d make damn sure I spent it all. Then I could happily let the taxpayer fund my care in old age. I doubt I would be alone in that. Why plan for old age, spend it all.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Funny enough I actually agree with rationalisation of the rail network. The trouble is he intends to do it across several sectors and the cost to do so would be huge, the loss of inward investment would also be massive as no one will invest in this country where the government at it's own whim can privatise the sectors its wants to.

I don't agree with axing of private schools and or inward assimilation in to the state sector.

I don't agree with landlord bashing that they intend to do. We struggle to provide enough homes now for people, disenfranchisement with landlords will only make the situation worse. Could landlords be better, yes some can for sure, why not set standards that must be attained thus keeping good quality landlords whilst removing the worse kind. Landlords are leaving in their droves, look at the for sale sections of properties with sitting tenants to see that.

Inheritance tax is possibly the worst tax there is. You have already paid all your taxes, sometimes more than once and then when you die they want to hit you again. How can you help the next generation if the government is going to whip away amy help that you may be able to give. I understand you can get around this, but the aet up costs can be high and for normal people its possibly not possible to set the funds up cheaply.

There is 4 to start with.

And you’re wrong on all 4 counts.

But as a multi-millionaire, none of your view points should surprise anyone.

Completely agree with stillspikes comments on IHT. Why should someone get millions upon millions, in some well known cases even billions, without paying tax on it? It’s an absolute farce. I’d like to see them start hammering the rates there, eventually getting it up to 100%

[StillSpike]

Inheritance tax is possibly the worst tax there is. You have already paid all your taxes, sometimes more than once and then when you die they want to hit you again. How can you help the next generation if the government is going to whip away amy help that you may be able to give. I understand you can get around this, but the aet up costs can be high and for normal people its possibly not possible to set the funds up cheaply.

Funnily enough, I think that Inheritance Tax is the absolute fairest tax there is. The person who's died doesn't need the money any more, and the person who stands to inherit didn't earn it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

The notion that "you've already paid tax on the money when you earned it **" is also a misdirection. You pay tax at all sorts of transactions - you don't get to say "hang on, I already paid income tax on my cash, so now I shouldn't have to pay tax on my petrol, or VAT on this product, or duty on my cigarettes".

Maybe the best way to help the next generation is to leave a society where everyone has access to good healthcare and education, where everyone kept safe by adequate policing and a proper social security safety net should things go wrong. Giving YOUR next generation a hand up by shafting everybody else's next generation just leads to continued inequality.

Plus, of course, threshold limits are set pretty high - you can still pass on the family home usually, for example. If you're the Duke of Roxburgh, on the other hand, you shouldn't be able to pass on the 700 family homes scott free, in my opinion. All the big stramash about IHT seems to be people owning millions and billions stirring up people with just the one house - who stands to lose the most, I wonder.

** note > Of course, not all wealth held at death has been "earned" (or indeed taxed). Much of it's been inherited itself from previous generations, or is a result of house price inflation or other unearned sources.

Personally if I thought all my money would go to the state after I died I’d make damn sure I spent it all. Then I could happily let the taxpayer fund my care in old age.

Maybe your spending it would generate demand for goods and services thus creating further employment and wealth (and, of course, additional tax revenues to the Common Good from all that economic activity). Who knows - the state might be able to afford to fund your care (and everyone else's) if it was any good at collecting taxes and stopping corporations and individuals spiriting cash out of the system.

[Thor]

The way it's going you'd be better having zero assets and let the state look after you.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Funnily enough, I think that Inheritance Tax is the absolute fairest tax there is. The person who's died doesn't need the money any more, and the person who stands to inherit didn't earn it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

The notion that "you've already paid tax on the money when you earned it **" is also a misdirection. You pay tax at all sorts of transactions - you don't get to say "hang on, I already paid income tax on my cash, so now I shouldn't have to pay tax on my petrol, or VAT on this product, or duty on my cigarettes".

Maybe the best way to help the next generation is to leave a society where everyone has access to good healthcare and education, where everyone kept safe by adequate policing and a proper social security safety net should things go wrong. Giving YOUR next generation a hand up by shafting everybody else's next generation just leads to continued inequality.

Plus, of course, threshold limits are set pretty high - you can still pass on the family home usually, for example. If you're the Duke of Roxburgh, on the other hand, you shouldn't be able to pass on the 700 family homes scott free, in my opinion. All the big stramash about IHT seems to be people owning millions and billions stirring up people with just the one house - who stands to lose the most, I wonder.

** note > Of course, not all wealth held at death has been "earned" (or indeed taxed). Much of it's been inherited itself from previous generations, or is a result of house price inflation or other unearned sources.

Personally if I thought all my money would go to the state after I died I’d make damn sure I spent it all. Then I could happily let the taxpayer fund my care in old age.

Maybe your spending it would generate demand for goods and services thus creating further employment and wealth (and, of course, additional tax revenues to the Common Good from all that economic activity). Who knows - the state might be able to afford to fund your care (and everyone else's) if it was any good at collecting taxes and stopping corporations and individuals spiriting cash out of the system.

I’d be abroad spending it. I’d go further to suggest if I thought the state was going to take it all maybe I’d not be so keen to work hard and generate it in the first place. Like many people, the thinking being why bother working hard for the state. A nice simple job, easy life, just enough to tick over and let the state take care of me when I need it. After all no real incentive for people to grow, create jobs, demand services. Then where will the state get it’s money from?

[tuffers#1]

"The trouble is he intends to do it across several sectors and the cost to do so would be huge"

I thought the idea was to take each franchise in house as it expired thus removing the cost of buying out the TOCs. All the stock is leased so nothing there to buy and National Rail already own the stations and track. All in all sounds like a good idea.

Mikero

Especially as the Profit will stay here & not go to Germany & the Nederlands who own pretty
much all Of the train companies in the uk

[RedDwarf 1881]

That mail front page is so bad. What dinlows still buy it in this day and age?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs/the_papers

Trouble is Redo Steptoe will drag this country backwards into an unmitigated disaster. His policies don't and won't work, show me a country where his style policies work?

You probably need to be more specific oh hammer-wielding god. Which particular policies are you referring to, e.g. rail nationalisation?

Venezuela. That should just about cover everything.

[Ornchurch]

I refer you respectfully to the Liberal Democrats policy unit for a full list of their fresh ideas. In particular, Policy Paper 137 entitled ‘Save the NHS and Social Care by Stopping Brexit’ is a riveting read.

Hopefully your friend will join the yellow masses.

Not a hope in hell, they are duplicitous and will sell their grandparents to get into power.

Might as well sell the grandparents.
The current way is to sell everything else so they can be looked after.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

"The trouble is he intends to do it across several sectors and the cost to do so would be huge"

I thought the idea was to take each franchise in house as it expired thus removing the cost of buying out the TOCs. All the stock is leased so nothing there to buy and National Rail already own the stations and track. All in all sounds like a good idea.

Mikero

Especially as the Profit will stay here & not go to Germany & the Nederlands who own pretty
much all Of the train companies in the uk

Of course privately funded projects would cease so these would either stop or be taxpayer funded from day 1.