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Is it too early to be referring to Carl Felcher as The Gaffer? Feel that it is something that needs to be earnt.
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Agree. Saw some of the club's social media going down that path and cringed a bit. Doubt Fletcher has come in and demanded people call him that so seems a bit odd for people to be using it a week in.
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Why are you talking to yourself?

But yes he will come in and he will asked to be called gaffer, boss, whatever he chooses.
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He needs to reduce the amount of times he says um during his interviews to be classed as a gaffer.
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Do Lester and Prophylactic Joe call FTC ‘Gaffer’?
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I just hate the word Gaffer. So little used. Ugh!
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Must be a football thing. I’ve never come across the term outside of the game. The boss is often called by their first name or prefixed by Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss etc on more formal occasions.

Fletcher can use whatever surrogate he wants and with all the comings and goings in teams sticking to gaffer is easier. people saying um, er Is commonplace creating thinking time before speaking. Harsh to criticise when having to answer questions without preparation, Im sure we all do it at times, even quietly in our minds having mastered not saying it out loud.
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Disoriented wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:00 am Do Lester and Prophylactic Joe call FTC ‘Gaffer’?
He insists on "El Patron'.
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dOh Nut wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:07 am Must be a football thing. I’ve never come across the term outside of the game. The boss is often called by their first name or prefixed by Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss etc on more formal occasions.

Fletcher can use whatever surrogate he wants and with all the comings and goings in teams sticking to gaffer is easier. people saying um, er Is commonplace creating thinking time before speaking. Harsh to criticise when having to answer questions without preparation, Im sure we all do it at times, even quietly in our minds having mastered not saying it out loud.
Weekly Football Phrase: Gaffer
https://languagecaster.com/weekly-footb ... se-gaffer/

This week’s football phrase is the word gaffer which is a word used by players to describe the boss, the coach or manager of the team. The word originally was used to refer to a foreman or boss on a construction site but has been popular in the football world since the 1970s. In a recent article in the British press, England and Spurs striker, Jermain Defoe reckoned that his gaffer was the best in the country. The gaffer.

Also........Learn More about gaffer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaffer
Did You Know? Though movie and cinema buffs associate gaffer with Hollywood, the word actually pre-dates motion pictures by about 300 years. The first recorded use of gaffer dates from the 16th century, when it was used as a title of respect for an older gentleman. Later it was used as a generic noun for any elderly man, and then it picked up the sense "foreman" (still used in British English), perhaps because the foreman was the most experienced and, most likely, the oldest person in a work crew. Today gaffer is usually applied to the head lighting electrician on a movie set. The gaffer's assistant is called the best boy.
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A faintly ludicrous term, which conjures up images of grey-haired benevolent old-men giving bowls of gruel to street urchins in Edwardian times.

Can't believe a manager would come into a club and demand to be called this; unless they were a complete simpleton, so I assume it's a tag the players themselves apply..
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It’s a word I’m fond of using. I’ve referred to Fletcher as the new gaffer already.
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Scuba Diver wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:11 am A faintly ludicrous term, which conjures up images of grey-haired benevolent old-men giving bowls of gruel to street urchins in Edwardian times.

Can't believe a manager would come into a club and demand to be called this; unless they were a complete simpleton, so I assume it's a tag the players themselves apply..
Agree with you. Years ago, football managers were somewhat more remote from the players and used to be respectively referred to as ''Mr'' as in the case of the Spurs Manager Bill Nicholson where on radio and tv interviews I heard him referred to by players as ''Mr Nicholson''

First time I heard the expression ''The Gaffer'' used by a footballer was back in the nineties by Paul Gascoigne
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:27 pm Is it too early to be referring to Carl Felcher as The Gaffer? Feel that it is something that needs to be earnt.

He earned the title "Gaffer" through the selection and interview phases. The club chose to appoint him as "Gaffer" "head coach" "boss" or whatever you want to call it.

Does it really matter anyway?
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In any case, surely the only person who is "The Gaffer" was Bill Maynard
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spen666 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:24 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:27 pm Is it too early to be referring to Carl Felcher as The Gaffer? Feel that it is something that needs to be earnt.

He earned the title "Gaffer" through the selection and interview phases. The club chose to appoint him as "Gaffer" "head coach" "boss" or whatever you want to call it.

Does it really matter anyway?
Yes
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When Spenc”yyy questions whether something is worth debating.....
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Disoriented wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:26 am
spen666 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:24 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:27 pm Is it too early to be referring to Carl Felcher as The Gaffer? Feel that it is something that needs to be earnt.

He earned the title "Gaffer" through the selection and interview phases. The club chose to appoint him as "Gaffer" "head coach" "boss" or whatever you want to call it.

Does it really matter anyway?
Yes
Why?

Call him a gopher, call him a gaffer, call him whatever you like, but what matters is how well he does his job
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spen666 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:41 am
Disoriented wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:26 am
spen666 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:24 am


He earned the title "Gaffer" through the selection and interview phases. The club chose to appoint him as "Gaffer" "head coach" "boss" or whatever you want to call it.

Does it really matter anyway?
Yes
Why?

Call him a gopher, call him a gaffer, call him whatever you like, but what matters is how well he does his job
Eh?
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Disoriented wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:26 am
spen666 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:24 am
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:27 pm Is it too early to be referring to Carl Felcher as The Gaffer? Feel that it is something that needs to be earnt.

He earned the title "Gaffer" through the selection and interview phases. The club chose to appoint him as "Gaffer" "head coach" "boss" or whatever you want to call it.

Does it really matter anyway?
Yes
Please explain why it matters Dis.
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I prefer the far simpler and more widespread "Boss" instead of Gaffer. Gaffer suggests a person who continually makes mistakes.

The overuse of Boss reminds me fondly of the hapless Jack Duckworth.
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Carl Fletcher is an electrician??
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Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:02 am
dOh Nut wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:07 am Must be a football thing. I’ve never come across the term outside of the game. The boss is often called by their first name or prefixed by Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss etc on more formal occasions.

Fletcher can use whatever surrogate he wants and with all the comings and goings in teams sticking to gaffer is easier. people saying um, er Is commonplace creating thinking time before speaking. Harsh to criticise when having to answer questions without preparation, Im sure we all do it at times, even quietly in our minds having mastered not saying it out loud.
Weekly Football Phrase: Gaffer
https://languagecaster.com/weekly-footb ... se-gaffer/

This week’s football phrase is the word gaffer which is a word used by players to describe the boss, the coach or manager of the team. The word originally was used to refer to a foreman or boss on a construction site but has been popular in the football world since the 1970s. In a recent article in the British press, England and Spurs striker, Jermain Defoe reckoned that his gaffer was the best in the country. The gaffer.

Also........Learn More about gaffer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaffer
Did You Know? Though movie and cinema buffs associate gaffer with Hollywood, the word actually pre-dates motion pictures by about 300 years. The first recorded use of gaffer dates from the 16th century, when it was used as a title of respect for an older gentleman. Later it was used as a generic noun for any elderly man, and then it picked up the sense "foreman" (still used in British English), perhaps because the foreman was the most experienced and, most likely, the oldest person in a work crew. Today gaffer is usually applied to the head lighting electrician on a movie set. The gaffer's assistant is called the best boy.
Thanks for explaining what these terms that come in the film credits mean. Any idea what a key grip is?
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bobo66 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 am
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:02 am
dOh Nut wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:07 am Must be a football thing. I’ve never come across the term outside of the game. The boss is often called by their first name or prefixed by Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss etc on more formal occasions.

Fletcher can use whatever surrogate he wants and with all the comings and goings in teams sticking to gaffer is easier. people saying um, er Is commonplace creating thinking time before speaking. Harsh to criticise when having to answer questions without preparation, Im sure we all do it at times, even quietly in our minds having mastered not saying it out loud.
Weekly Football Phrase: Gaffer
https://languagecaster.com/weekly-footb ... se-gaffer/

This week’s football phrase is the word gaffer which is a word used by players to describe the boss, the coach or manager of the team. The word originally was used to refer to a foreman or boss on a construction site but has been popular in the football world since the 1970s. In a recent article in the British press, England and Spurs striker, Jermain Defoe reckoned that his gaffer was the best in the country. The gaffer.

Also........Learn More about gaffer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaffer
Did You Know? Though movie and cinema buffs associate gaffer with Hollywood, the word actually pre-dates motion pictures by about 300 years. The first recorded use of gaffer dates from the 16th century, when it was used as a title of respect for an older gentleman. Later it was used as a generic noun for any elderly man, and then it picked up the sense "foreman" (still used in British English), perhaps because the foreman was the most experienced and, most likely, the oldest person in a work crew. Today gaffer is usually applied to the head lighting electrician on a movie set. The gaffer's assistant is called the best boy.
Thanks for explaining what these terms that come in the film credits mean. Any idea what a key grip is?
No idea but my mum always said I was the Best Boy 😉
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A key grip is the person that opens the gate every day for the actors and its Important that he has a form grip on the said key so as not to lose it
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BIGRON wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:18 am
bobo66 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 am
Sid Bishop wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:02 am

Weekly Football Phrase: Gaffer
https://languagecaster.com/weekly-footb ... se-gaffer/

This week’s football phrase is the word gaffer which is a word used by players to describe the boss, the coach or manager of the team. The word originally was used to refer to a foreman or boss on a construction site but has been popular in the football world since the 1970s. In a recent article in the British press, England and Spurs striker, Jermain Defoe reckoned that his gaffer was the best in the country. The gaffer.

Also........Learn More about gaffer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaffer
Did You Know? Though movie and cinema buffs associate gaffer with Hollywood, the word actually pre-dates motion pictures by about 300 years. The first recorded use of gaffer dates from the 16th century, when it was used as a title of respect for an older gentleman. Later it was used as a generic noun for any elderly man, and then it picked up the sense "foreman" (still used in British English), perhaps because the foreman was the most experienced and, most likely, the oldest person in a work crew. Today gaffer is usually applied to the head lighting electrician on a movie set. The gaffer's assistant is called the best boy.
Thanks for explaining what these terms that come in the film credits mean. Any idea what a key grip is?
No idea but my mum always said I was the Best Boy 😉
I have seen that term ''Best Boy'' used on films in the end credits and wondered what it was but never bothered to look up !!
Also never heard of the term ''Key Grip'' before !! So the lesson is, if in training for Pub Quizzes etc, worthwhile reading the comments on the Leyton Orient Forum, no end of information comes up that might come up as a quiz question one day !
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