East Stand Leak

[Disoriented]

"Why can’t Barry and Eddie pay for it?"

Such generous souls as those two would jump at the chance. Surely.

[gshaw]

But Hearn is a huge fan, surely he'd want to help out the club he loves

[spen666]

Not necessarily as far as the roof is concerned ...

https://oliverfisher.co.uk/extent-of-th ... ial-lease/

The tenant will usually be responsible for repairing the demised premises and the landlord will maintain the exterior, structure and common parts of the building and recover the cost of doing so through the service charge

It is the case in Orients lease they are responsible for the repairs.

But not all as you wrote.

Erm stop making things up.

I did not say it applies in all commercial leases, I said it applied in MOST commercial leases

I refer you to my post at 2:38pm today

[RientO]

It is the case in Orients lease they are responsible for the repairs.

But not all as you wrote.

Erm stop making things up.

I did not say it applies in all commercial leases, I said it applied in MOST commercial leases

I refer you to my post at 2:38pm today

Sure.
Most leases do not place all repairing obligations on the tenant.
Most leases place differing responsibilities on the tenant and the landlord. Not all on the tenant.
You put the all after the most. That is what you wrote.

[spen666]

But not all as you wrote.

Erm stop making things up.

I did not say it applies in all commercial leases, I said it applied in MOST commercial leases

I refer you to my post at 2:38pm today

Sure.
Most leases do not place all repairing obligations on the tenant.
Most leases place differing responsibilities on the tenant and the landlord. Not all on the tenant.
You put the all after the most. That is what you wrote.

I did not say it applied in all commercial leases. You are wrong to claim I did.

I refer you to my post of 2:38pm

[Max B Gold]

This is an interesting debate. Probably go all the way to the Supreme Court.

[Cheshunto]

This is an interesting debate. Probably go all the way to the Supreme Court.

Most of us would be asleep before it reached any court

[RientO]

Erm stop making things up.

I did not say it applies in all commercial leases, I said it applied in MOST commercial leases

I refer you to my post at 2:38pm today

Sure.
Most leases do not place all repairing obligations on the tenant.
Most leases place differing responsibilities on the tenant and the landlord. Not all on the tenant.
You put the all after the most. That is what you wrote.

I did not say it applied in all commercial leases. You are wrong to claim I did.

I refer you to my post of 2:38pm

Nor did I write that you did.
You wrote that MOST commercial leases place ALL repairing obligations on the tenant.
It is not the case.

[spen666]

Sure.
Most leases do not place all repairing obligations on the tenant.
Most leases place differing responsibilities on the tenant and the landlord. Not all on the tenant.
You put the all after the most. That is what you wrote.

I did not say it applied in all commercial leases. You are wrong to claim I did.

I refer you to my post of 2:38pm

Nor did I write that you did.
You wrote that MOST commercial leases place ALL repairing obligations on the tenant.
It is not the case.

It is the case.

Prove I am wrong?

[Thor]

I think spen has just done a mic drop on riento

[RientO]

I did not say it applied in all commercial leases. You are wrong to claim I did.

I refer you to my post of 2:38pm

Nor did I write that you did.
You wrote that MOST commercial leases place ALL repairing obligations on the tenant.
It is not the case.

It is the case.

Prove I am wrong?

https://oliverfisher.co.uk/extent-of-th ... ial-lease/

The tenant will usually be responsible for repairing the demised premises and the landlord will maintain the exterior, structure and common parts of the building and recover the cost of doing so through the service charge

The word “usually” implies MOST. The majority.

[RientO]

I think spen has just done a mic drop on riento

I don’t think so.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

This is an interesting debate. Probably go all the way to the Supreme Court.

Not all the way, most all.

[spen666]

Nor did I write that you did.
You wrote that MOST commercial leases place ALL repairing obligations on the tenant.
It is not the case.

It is the case.

Prove I am wrong?

https://oliverfisher.co.uk/extent-of-th ... ial-lease/

The tenant will usually be responsible for repairing the demised premises and the landlord will maintain the exterior, structure and common parts of the building and recover the cost of doing so through the service charge

The word “usually” implies MOST. The majority.

You clearly do not understand what you are quoting

This example is :

a) talking about common parts...this is irrelevant here as there are no common parts, Orient have exclusive use of the stand.

b) where there are common parts and landlord does repairs, the tenant still pays for repairs.this is things like cladding on block of flats, not where one part had exclusive possession of building

c) An opinion piece by a law firm promoting their services is not the law...it is an opinion piece which in any event confirms what I have said that cost of repairs falls on Orient

[RientO]

The word “usually” implies MOST. The majority.

You clearly do not understand what you are quoting

This example is :

a) talking about common parts...this is irrelevant here as there are no common parts, Orient have exclusive use of the stand.

b) where there are common parts and landlord does repairs, the tenant still pays for repairs.this is things like cladding on block of flats, not where one part had exclusive possession of building

c) An opinion piece by a law firm promoting their services is not the law...it is an opinion piece which in any event confirms what I have said that cost of repairs falls on Orient

Why are you not reading what I wrote? I am not writing about the specific case of Orient. What I am writing is that MOST leases don't place ALL repair obligations on the tenants. Yes, ultimately they may pay for them indirectly, but tenants are not the ones that are obliged to make the repair.

[A Pedant]

Pretty sure there was the same extended argument this time last season, when the wooden flooring in the East Stand started to deteriorate. The tenant (LOFC) is just as liable for any repairs now as it was then.

[spen666]

….
Why are you not reading what I wrote? I am not writing about the specific case of Orient. What I am writing is that MOST leases don't place ALL repair obligations on the tenants. Yes, ultimately they may pay for them indirectly, but tenants are not the ones that are obliged to make the repair.

Well the rest of us are … especially in a thread about the leak in the East Stand