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Bergen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:01 pm Brophy 8
Widdowson 7
Clay 7

6 to the rest of them.
Clay 7 :lol:
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Bergen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:01 pm Brophy 8
Widdowson 7
Clay 7

6 to the rest of them.
Clay 7... seriously? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Clay played well in the first half.
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gshaw wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:10 pm
Bergen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:01 pm Brophy 8
Widdowson 7
Clay 7

6 to the rest of them.
Clay 7... seriously? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Exactly!!!
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RedO wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:09 pm
Bergen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:01 pm Brophy 8
Widdowson 7
Clay 7

6 to the rest of them.
Clay 7 :lol:
7. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Bergen wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:16 pm Clay played well in the first half.
Everyone played well first half.
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I didn’t notice any change in style, it was the same old. Instead of pass and move we play pass and watch.
Our midfield is woefully weak and even poor teams out muscle us.
Marsh is nothing special and I honestly can’t believe spurs rate him high enough to offer a 3 year contract.
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Marsh clearly hasn’t got a future at spurs.
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Redcard wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:28 pm I didn’t notice any change in style, it was the same old. Instead of pass and move we play pass and watch.
Our midfield is woefully weak and even poor teams out muscle us.
First half there was some nice link-up play, good triangles little lay-offs etc. much better than usual.

CM wasn't sorted over summer, 2 pros out only 1 in and still no combative Dawson / Vincelot style player. Marsh is just a younger version of Clay / Gorman, not a bad player by any stretch but likewise not the answer either.
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I thought we were good 1st 25-30 minutes in the 1st half .
We backed off for the remainder & let them grow in confidence. How we didnt go 2 up just before half time is a mystery to me .

Carlisle gaffer must have given them stick & said we were gash, but there only 1 up.
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gshaw wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:32 pm
Redcard wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:28 pm I didn’t notice any change in style, it was the same old. Instead of pass and move we play pass and watch.
Our midfield is woefully weak and even poor teams out muscle us.
First half there was some nice link-up play, good triangles little lay-offs etc. much better than usual.

CM wasn't sorted over summer, 2 pros out only 1 in and still no combative Dawson / Vincelot style player. Marsh is just a younger version of Clay / Gorman, not a bad player by any stretch but likewise not the answer either.
And we miss Jobi too.
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RedO wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:41 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:32 pm
Redcard wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:28 pm I didn’t notice any change in style, it was the same old. Instead of pass and move we play pass and watch.
Our midfield is woefully weak and even poor teams out muscle us.
First half there was some nice link-up play, good triangles little lay-offs etc. much better than usual.

CM wasn't sorted over summer, 2 pros out only 1 in and still no combative Dawson / Vincelot style player. Marsh is just a younger version of Clay / Gorman, not a bad player by any stretch but likewise not the answer either.
And we miss Jobi too.
That we certainly do but I'll be very surprised if we see him in a significant playing role again.
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Agreed, sadly.

Which is why we needed at least 2 CMs.
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JimbO wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:32 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:11 pm
OKPete wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:09 pm Will be good to have Wilko back and hopefully Angol as well soon because much as I like Harrold, he needs more support up front than he got today.
It's almost like we should've signed another quality striker rather than retaining Alabi...
We haven't retained Alabi the club were trying to get rid of him they couldn't for one reason or another.
Not sure about that, not judging by the clubs actions. Why take him off the list? Why persist in playing him when we've seen MH make a better fist of it than him? It's almost like Ling wants to be proved right by his signings, sometimes things just dont work out for either party, this could be one of those occasions.

I still hope he comes good, but each passing week.......
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First half was as good as I’ve seen for some time. Some great plays and I don’t think, the odd ekpiteta Elokobi moment, as good as we’ve seen for some time. Liked the way we used Widdowson and moved the ball well and quickly. Impressed.

The second half, what a fecking shambles. No other way to describe it. Utter shitefest.

We got out manoeuvred by the Carlisle manager who changed his tactics and nearly beat us. Player for player we were ok . Manager for manager we came up short.
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Thor wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:47 pm
JimbO wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:32 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:11 pm

It's almost like we should've signed another quality striker rather than retaining Alabi...
We haven't retained Alabi the club were trying to get rid of him they couldn't for one reason or another.
Not sure about that, not judging by the clubs actions. Why take him off the list? Why persist in playing him when we've seen MH make a better fist of it than him? It's almost like Ling wants to be proved right by his signings, sometimes things just dont work out for either party, this could be one of those occasions.

I still hope he comes good, but each passing week.......
There has to be something in this, Ling/Embleton wanting to be proved right on this. Fletch appears to have sussed him out already.
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dOh Nut wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:03 pm First half was as good as I’ve seen for some time. Some great plays and I don’t think, the odd ekpiteta Elokobi moment, as good as we’ve seen for some time. Liked the way we used Widdowson and moved the ball well and quickly. Impressed.

The second half, what a fecking shambles. No other way to describe it. Utter shitefest.

We got out manoeuvred by the Carlisle manager who changed his tactics and nearly beat us. Player for player we were ok . Manager for manager we came up short.
How did we get outmanoeuvred? What changed?

I dont think it was anything to do with that, just our heads dropping after giving them a goal and then running out of puff.
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RedO wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:33 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:03 pm First half was as good as I’ve seen for some time. Some great plays and I don’t think, the odd ekpiteta Elokobi moment, as good as we’ve seen for some time. Liked the way we used Widdowson and moved the ball well and quickly. Impressed.

The second half, what a fecking shambles. No other way to describe it. Utter shitefest.

We got out manoeuvred by the Carlisle manager who changed his tactics and nearly beat us. Player for player we were ok . Manager for manager we came up short.
How did we get outmanoeuvred? What changed?

I dont think it was anything to do with that, just our heads dropping after giving them a goal and then running out of puff.
All this and also losing concentration
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RedO wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:33 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:03 pm First half was as good as I’ve seen for some time. Some great plays and I don’t think, the odd ekpiteta Elokobi moment, as good as we’ve seen for some time. Liked the way we used Widdowson and moved the ball well and quickly. Impressed.

The second half, what a fecking shambles. No other way to describe it. Utter shitefest.

We got out manoeuvred by the Carlisle manager who changed his tactics and nearly beat us. Player for player we were ok . Manager for manager we came up short.
How did we get outmanoeuvred? What changed?

I dont think it was anything to do with that, just our heads dropping after giving them a goal and then running out of puff.
Looked a different game second half, I though they closed down quicker and mentally looked up for a game, first half they looked like rabbits caught in the headlights. Even in the moments before their goal we were off our game. Just didn’t start second half, they did.
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RedO wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:33 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:03 pm First half was as good as I’ve seen for some time. Some great plays and I don’t think, the odd ekpiteta Elokobi moment, as good as we’ve seen for some time. Liked the way we used Widdowson and moved the ball well and quickly. Impressed.

The second half, what a fecking shambles. No other way to describe it. Utter shitefest.

We got out manoeuvred by the Carlisle manager who changed his tactics and nearly beat us. Player for player we were ok . Manager for manager we came up short.
How did we get outmanoeuvred? What changed?

I dont think it was anything to do with that, just our heads dropping after giving them a goal and then running out of puff.
They came out quick, closed us down quicker and put us under pressure. We didn't react well and then we get the usual can't clear our lines and bang goal. From then on they bossed it. Our midfield did nothing other than Brophy and you try winning a game when your centre forward and winger are the only players giving it some.
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A real Jekyll and Hyde performance.
We seem to play better for some reason kicking into the TJS stand, which we did today unusually in the First Half, so I presume that maybe we lost the toss ??
Anyway, a good first half with the only thing missing was more goals and a lack of shots at the goal with players preferring to pass rather than shoot.
Matt Harrold did well on his own up front but inevitably ran out of steam. If James Alabi doesn’t come on to replace him in the second half, then he must know that he’s on his way out.
The 2nd half was awful, and I can’t remember a game where we’ve played for a period without any forwards on the pitch.

I know we only had Alabi on the bench, but wouldn’t he have been better than bringing on more midfielders ??
Maybe not, but we could easily have lost today and I think Carlisle deserved their point.

JMD, Gorman and Dennis who came on didn’t do too much and Gorman’s poor shot right at the end of the 2nd half shows typified what’s wrong. The ball was nicely laid off for him and he couldn’t even hit the target.
Fletch’ has plenty of food for thought but at least Wilkinson should return for the trip to Morecambe next week.
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Amazing 6-4-0 formation in second half
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Cheshunto wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:11 pm A real Jekyll and Hyde performance.
We seem to play better for some reason kicking into the TJS stand, which we did today unusually in the First Half, so I presume that maybe we lost the toss ??
Anyway, a good first half with the only thing missing was more goals and a lack of shots at the goal with players preferring to pass rather than shoot.
Matt Harrold did well on his own up front but inevitably ran out of steam. If James Alabi doesn’t come on to replace him in the second half, then he must know that he’s on his way out.
The 2nd half was awful, and I can’t remember a game where we’ve played for a period without any forwards on the pitch.

I know we only had Alabi on the bench, but wouldn’t he have been better than bringing on more midfielders ??
Maybe not, but we could easily have lost today and I think Carlisle deserved their point.

JMD, Gorman and Dennis who came on didn’t do too much and Gorman’s poor shot right at the end of the 2nd half shows typified what’s wrong. The ball was nicely laid off for him and he couldn’t even hit the target.
Fletch’ has plenty of food for thought but at least Wilkinson should return for the trip to Morecambe next week.
I think both Gorman and Alabi will be on their way in the Summer.
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A forward 3 of Dennis, Brophy and JMD is perfectly acceptable. Especially in the circumstances. The circumstances being Angol injured, Wilkinson suspended, Harold done in after 70 minutes and only Alabi on the bench.
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Cheshunto wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:11 pm A real Jekyll and Hyde performance.
We seem to play better for some reason kicking into the TJS stand, which we did today unusually in the First Half, so I presume that maybe we lost the toss ??
Anyway, a good first half with the only thing missing was more goals and a lack of shots at the goal with players preferring to pass rather than shoot.
Matt Harrold did well on his own up front but inevitably ran out of steam. If James Alabi doesn’t come on to replace him in the second half, then he must know that he’s on his way out.
The 2nd half was awful, and I can’t remember a game where we’ve played for a period without any forwards on the pitch.

I know we only had Alabi on the bench, but wouldn’t he have been better than bringing on more midfielders ??
Maybe not, but we could easily have lost today and I think Carlisle deserved their point.

JMD, Gorman and Dennis who came on didn’t do too much and Gorman’s poor shot right at the end of the 2nd half shows typified what’s wrong. The ball was nicely laid off for him and he couldn’t even hit the target.
Fletch’ has plenty of food for thought but at least Wilkinson should return for the trip to Morecambe next week.
That Gorman shot really wound be up.Just knew it would end up in row z. Cued up perfectly for him
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