That hand ball goal.

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That hand ball goal.

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As the ref didn't see it should the EFL give Rodden a retrospective red card for deliberate hand ball? The EFL have the power to do so but will they use it? If not why not. The Os should persue it.
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Not wanting this to be tit for tat and only using the following as an example, given that Liam Kelly's push on the Plymouth ball-man a couple of years ago was investigated after the game and punished subsequently then you'd think the same would follow for this.
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It's not a red card offence.
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Worse decision than Nigel Miller at Leeds in 2007.

Unfortunately Mr. Hicks will get away it.
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How can you blame Miller for that non goal. He was not in line with so could not tell it was over line.
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Reg Miller:

- Sean Thornton's red card.
- the corner that led to Carole's equaliser.
- the penalty awarded to Leeds.
- and the decision to disallow Adam Boyd a late winner. Even the Leeds players said it was a yard over the line.
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Nothing will come of this. The EFA will not retrospectively punish anyone because to do so undermines their ref, and no way will thery do that.
Plymouth is a jinx ground for us, and at least we wont have to play their again this season ( fa cup baring)
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ComeOnYouOs wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:18 pm Nothing will come of this. The EFA will not retrospectively punish anyone because to do so undermines their ref, and no way will thery do that.
Plymouth is a jinx ground for us, and at least we wont have to play their again this season ( fa cup baring)
In the way they didn't punish Liam Kelly after our last game there?
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Red_Army wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:23 pm It's not a red card offence.
You're right. Almost certain that handball is only a red card if denying a credible goalscoring opportunity or goal. But still interested in what they do given this looked deliberate, it fooled the ref and resulted in a goal. Players can now be done for diving if reviewed after a game so why not?
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Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:25 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:18 pm Nothing will come of this. The EFA will not retrospectively punish anyone because to do so undermines their ref, and no way will thery do that.
Plymouth is a jinx ground for us, and at least we wont have to play their again this season ( fa cup baring)
In the way they didn't punish Liam Kelly after our last game there?
I get your point, but they wont punish the Plymouth player this time
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sh*t happens. Move on.
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dOh Nut wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:33 pm sh*t happens. Move on.
Good thing Churchill had a different attitude in 1940.
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Disoriented wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:52 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:33 pm sh*t happens. Move on.
Good thing Churchill had a different attitude in 1940.
Depends how you move on. Like how we play our next games. Plymouth was a defeat, no reason why we shouldn’t move on and win the next few.
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It was a great goal.
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Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:59 pm It was a great goal.
Worthy of Maradona
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Post by Sid Bishop »

Quite unbelievable that this deliberate hand ball ( that lead to this goal ) was completely missed by both the linesman and the referee. So obvious and in all my years of watching football has to be up there with the most blatant handballs I have ever seen. I wonder how the two officials concerned felt after watching the video highlights on the game !!
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The ref should get a suspension for missing that
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Adz wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:14 am The ref should get a suspension for missing that
Hanging is a bit drastic, then again. :lol:
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https://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic ... 1ffcdd2289

I was actually checking up their forum after their defeat and the first post about a dodgy goal scored in 1983 at Brisbane Road which stood.

Unfortunately they lost my support a bit when they mentioned ball boys and moving onto the next 5h1t team.

Karma has struck today they lost 4-0. :)
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Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:06 pm https://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic ... 1ffcdd2289

I was actually checking up their forum after their defeat and the first post about a dodgy goal scored in 1983 at Brisbane Road which stood.

Unfortunately they lost my support a bit when they mentioned ball boys and moving onto the next 5h1t team.

Karma has struck today they lost 4-0. :)
HA! Good! Shame they didn’t get a hand of god goal to help them
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MrB wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:11 pm HA! Good! Shame they didn’t get a hand of god goal to help them
Blimey Tel you are on the warpath,today. :P
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Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:06 pm https://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic ... 1ffcdd2289

I was actually checking up their forum after their defeat and the first post about a dodgy goal scored in 1983 at Brisbane Road which stood.

Unfortunately they lost my support a bit when they mentioned ball boys and moving onto the next 5h1t team.

Karma has struck today they lost 4-0. :)
Think I recall someone saying "Typical Orient! Only Orient could win a game 4-0 and then lose the next one 4-0". Proof that this sort of thing doesn't just happen to us.
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Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:37 pm
MrB wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:11 pm HA! Good! Shame they didn’t get a hand of god goal to help them
Blimey Tel you are on the warpath,today. :P
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Should have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute.
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So we win 4-0 then lose 4-0 to Plymouth who then lose 4-0 to Exeter. Bradford to beat Exeter 4-0 next week?
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