Plymouth Argyle

[Clive Evans]

This is a team we should be on a par with. We have had a similar sort of League history, sharing their up's and downs. But i thought that they looked pretty nifty after watching them on TV last night. I concede that their ridiculous first goal knocked the stuffing out of our boys, but still. Their ground looks solid ( from what I could see ) and is being improved. Dulcet Dave said there were 9000+ fans there and we were hardly boosting the crowd. That is very good for a mid October Wednesday night.
9000+ is a full house at Brisbane Rd. The ground looks terrible in comparison ( 4 housing estates, how did that ever happen without a huge fight?). Now is the time to get some pride in the club. Get us up a few divisions. It can't happen overnight. But there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

They have a much bigger fanbase for obvious reasons.

[Max B Gold]

This is a team we should be on a par with. We have had a similar sort of League history, sharing their up's and downs. But i thought that they looked pretty nifty after watching them on TV last night. I concede that their ridiculous first goal knocked the stuffing out of our boys, but still. Their ground looks solid ( from what I could see ) and is being improved. Dulcet Dave said there were 9000+ fans there and we were hardly boosting the crowd. That is very good for a mid October Wednesday night.
9000+ is a full house at Brisbane Rd. The ground looks terrible in comparison ( 4 housing estates, how did that ever happen without a huge fight?). Now is the time to get some pride in the club. Get us up a few divisions. It can't happen overnight. But there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

I think having 4 housing estates puts us at the heart of the people and makes us the Community Club that we are. Fan ownership would be good too because I'm not too impressed with some of the decisions made recently by the junta in charge.

[RientO]

...there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

Very difficult given there are three top 6 clubs in the same city along with Straford United and their tax payer sponsored stadium.

FWIW I think the current owners have done a good job increasing gates and season ticket sales. Arguably there is a potential fan base of around 20-25,000 if the FA Trophy is anything to go by, but that is probably as many as Orient are likely to ever get unless a Russian oligarch turns up and buys a new team and new stadium.

[BIGRON]

I was impressed with Home Park , that's about all I enjoyed about my 3 days in Plymouth ☹

[Thor]

This is a team we should be on a par with. We have had a similar sort of League history, sharing their up's and downs. But i thought that they looked pretty nifty after watching them on TV last night. I concede that their ridiculous first goal knocked the stuffing out of our boys, but still. Their ground looks solid ( from what I could see ) and is being improved. Dulcet Dave said there were 9000+ fans there and we were hardly boosting the crowd. That is very good for a mid October Wednesday night.
9000+ is a full house at Brisbane Rd. The ground looks terrible in comparison ( 4 housing estates, how did that ever happen without a huge fight?). Now is the time to get some pride in the club. Get us up a few divisions. It can't happen overnight. But there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

I think having 4 housing estates puts us at the heart of the people and makes us the Community Club that we are. Fan ownership would be good too because I'm not too impressed with some of the decisions made recently by the junta in charge.

Can you enlighten us with what decisions that the club have made that you don’t agree with. Thanks.

[Clive Evans]

Thor said:- "Can you enlighten us with what decisions that the club have made that you don’t agree with. Thanks."
Can you please tell me where in my piece did I say that I don't agree with any decisions made by the club? Why didn't you merely highlight the quotes from Max?

[Thor]

I was talking to max not you!!!

[Omygawd]

They have a much bigger fanbase for obvious reasons.

Too many chips?

[Max B Gold]

This is a team we should be on a par with. We have had a similar sort of League history, sharing their up's and downs. But i thought that they looked pretty nifty after watching them on TV last night. I concede that their ridiculous first goal knocked the stuffing out of our boys, but still. Their ground looks solid ( from what I could see ) and is being improved. Dulcet Dave said there were 9000+ fans there and we were hardly boosting the crowd. That is very good for a mid October Wednesday night.
9000+ is a full house at Brisbane Rd. The ground looks terrible in comparison ( 4 housing estates, how did that ever happen without a huge fight?). Now is the time to get some pride in the club. Get us up a few divisions. It can't happen overnight. But there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

I think having 4 housing estates puts us at the heart of the people and makes us the Community Club that we are. Fan ownership would be good too because I'm not too impressed with some of the decisions made recently by the junta in charge.

Can you enlighten us with what decisions that the club have made that you don’t agree with. Thanks.

I doubt I could ever enlighten you.

[Disoriented]

This is a team we should be on a par with. We have had a similar sort of League history, sharing their up's and downs. But i thought that they looked pretty nifty after watching them on TV last night. I concede that their ridiculous first goal knocked the stuffing out of our boys, but still. Their ground looks solid ( from what I could see ) and is being improved. Dulcet Dave said there were 9000+ fans there and we were hardly boosting the crowd. That is very good for a mid October Wednesday night.
9000+ is a full house at Brisbane Rd. The ground looks terrible in comparison ( 4 housing estates, how did that ever happen without a huge fight?). Now is the time to get some pride in the club. Get us up a few divisions. It can't happen overnight. But there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

I think having 4 housing estates puts us at the heart of the people and makes us the Community Club that we are. Fan ownership would be good too because I'm not too impressed with some of the decisions made recently by the junta in charge.

Are you advocating viva le revolution?

[Thor]

I think having 4 housing estates puts us at the heart of the people and makes us the Community Club that we are. Fan ownership would be good too because I'm not too impressed with some of the decisions made recently by the junta in charge.

Can you enlighten us with what decisions that the club have made that you don’t agree with. Thanks.

I doubt I could ever enlighten you.

Oh so you were just talking crap as usual. Carry on mr

[RedDwarf 1881]

That games been and gone now so we move on to Carlisle at home . Have to put that defeat behind us now and try and get back to winning ways

[tuffers#1]

This is a team we should be on a par with.

How are we not on a par with them ?

Only 4 points behind them & they still have to come here.

Anything else is irrelevant as we have never owned our own ground , this lies solely with the owners of the club
Since we were formed.

[Thor]

Tuffers that’s mostly the same at all clubs in the uk, only a very tiny amount are owned by fans.

[spen666]

This is a team we should be on a par with.

How are we not on a par with them ?

Only 4 points behind them & they still have to come here.

Anything else is irrelevant as we have never owned our own ground , this lies solely with the owners of the club
Since we were formed.

Didn't club own the ground before Barry Hearn bought it from the club and then later transferred it to his pension fund

[LittleMate]

This is a team we should be on a par with. We have had a similar sort of League history, sharing their up's and downs. But i thought that they looked pretty nifty after watching them on TV last night. I concede that their ridiculous first goal knocked the stuffing out of our boys, but still. Their ground looks solid ( from what I could see ) and is being improved. Dulcet Dave said there were 9000+ fans there and we were hardly boosting the crowd. That is very good for a mid October Wednesday night.
9000+ is a full house at Brisbane Rd. The ground looks terrible in comparison ( 4 housing estates, how did that ever happen without a huge fight?). Now is the time to get some pride in the club. Get us up a few divisions. It can't happen overnight. But there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

I think having 4 housing estates puts us at the heart of the people and makes us the Community Club that we are. Fan ownership would be good too because I'm not too impressed with some of the decisions made recently by the junta in charge.

So everytime you disagree with a couple of decisions you want a regime change? Be careful what (and who) you wish for. This mob care more than anyone has since we took blood money from Tony Wood in the 1980's.

As for fan ownership, that's been tried and does not work. In fact its a comment that is so impractical that its hardly worth further comment. The bottom line is that Orient will always need funding unless its reduced in size to a model that works (which almost certainly means a smaller ground).

[Redcard]

The flats in the corners along with a football league grant paid for the west side stand.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

They did not own the ground they had a lease from the council

Long lease so pretty much same thing as owning it.

Until Bazza took it for himself.

[tuffers#1]

This is a team we should be on a par with.

How are we not on a par with them ?

Only 4 points behind them & they still have to come here.

Anything else is irrelevant as we have never owned our own ground , this lies solely with the owners of the club
Since we were formed.

Didn't club own the ground before Barry Hearn bought it from the club and then later transferred it to his pension fund

Nope we didnt,

We never owned Millfields road or Lea bridge road either .

Most clubs had bought there grounds a short time after being formed or after moving into them
The problem, was here a very long time before Barry entered into Orients History.

[Red_Army]

How are we not on a par with them ?

Only 4 points behind them & they still have to come here.

Anything else is irrelevant as we have never owned our own ground , this lies solely with the owners of the club
Since we were formed.

Didn't club own the ground before Barry Hearn bought it from the club and then later transferred it to his pension fund

Nope we didnt,

We never owned Millfields road or Lea bridge road either .

Most clubs had bought there grounds a short time after being formed or after moving into them
The problem, was here a very long time before Barry entered into Orients History.

The point remains though, that it is entirely in Hearn's interests for Orient to move out of Brisbane Road. He tried to move us out to the Olympic Stadium and when that failed he sold the club to a man who he thought could get rid of the club for him and it almost worked. He's got to hope now that the current ownership realise that Hearn has given us no room to move and will move us out to somewhere else.

[Red_Army]

This is a team we should be on a par with. We have had a similar sort of League history, sharing their up's and downs. But i thought that they looked pretty nifty after watching them on TV last night. I concede that their ridiculous first goal knocked the stuffing out of our boys, but still. Their ground looks solid ( from what I could see ) and is being improved. Dulcet Dave said there were 9000+ fans there and we were hardly boosting the crowd. That is very good for a mid October Wednesday night.
9000+ is a full house at Brisbane Rd. The ground looks terrible in comparison ( 4 housing estates, how did that ever happen without a huge fight?). Now is the time to get some pride in the club. Get us up a few divisions. It can't happen overnight. But there needs to be some serious plans to boost the fan base. A show of intent by the owners that we too can be a club of note and not just another Dagenham and Redbridge eking an existence.

I think having 4 housing estates puts us at the heart of the people and makes us the Community Club that we are. Fan ownership would be good too because I'm not too impressed with some of the decisions made recently by the junta in charge.

So everytime you disagree with a couple of decisions you want a regime change? Be careful what (and who) you wish for. This mob care more than anyone has since we took blood money from Tony Wood in the 1980's.

As for fan ownership, that's been tried and does not work. In fact its a comment that is so impractical that its hardly worth further comment. The bottom line is that Orient will always need funding unless its reduced in size to a model that works (which almost certainly means a smaller ground).

Fan ownership has worked and could work for sure. I would also ask you how private ownership has worked for us over the past 3 decades? We are lucky that the current owners seem to have our interests at heart.

[tuffers#1]

Didn't club own the ground before Barry Hearn bought it from the club and then later transferred it to his pension fund

Nope we didnt,

We never owned Millfields road or Lea bridge road either .

Most clubs had bought there grounds a short time after being formed or after moving into them
The problem, was here a very long time before Barry entered into Orients History.

The point remains though, that it is entirely in Hearn's interests for Orient to move out of Brisbane Road. He tried to move us out to the Olympic Stadium and when that failed he sold the club to a man who he thought could get rid of the club for him and it almost worked. He's got to hope now that the current ownership realise that Hearn has given us no room to move and will move us out to somewhere else.

The point remains had we bought our ground
Millfieds , Lea Bridge Road or Osborne Road ,
Hearn would never had done a deal with LBWF .

Anything you mention about hearn is simply
Irrelevant & is argumentative to the original point
I made .

We are 4 points behind plymouth & LOFC ( clapton or leyton or just plane orient)
has never in its history owned the ground they played football on

[spen666]

Nope we didnt,

We never owned Millfields road or Lea bridge road either .

Most clubs had bought there grounds a short time after being formed or after moving into them
The problem, was here a very long time before Barry entered into Orients History.

The point remains though, that it is entirely in Hearn's interests for Orient to move out of Brisbane Road. He tried to move us out to the Olympic Stadium and when that failed he sold the club to a man who he thought could get rid of the club for him and it almost worked. He's got to hope now that the current ownership realise that Hearn has given us no room to move and will move us out to somewhere else.

The point remains had we bought our ground
Millfieds , Lea Bridge Road or Osborne Road ,
Hearn would never had done a deal with LBWF .

Anything you mention about hearn is simply
Irrelevant & is argumentative to the original point
I made .

We are 4 points behind plymouth & LOFC ( clapton or leyton or just plane orient)
has never in its history owned the ground they played football on

Is that when the club were flying high?

[Red_Army]

Nope we didnt,

We never owned Millfields road or Lea bridge road either .

Most clubs had bought there grounds a short time after being formed or after moving into them
The problem, was here a very long time before Barry entered into Orients History.

The point remains though, that it is entirely in Hearn's interests for Orient to move out of Brisbane Road. He tried to move us out to the Olympic Stadium and when that failed he sold the club to a man who he thought could get rid of the club for him and it almost worked. He's got to hope now that the current ownership realise that Hearn has given us no room to move and will move us out to somewhere else.

The point remains had we bought our ground
Millfieds , Lea Bridge Road or Osborne Road ,
Hearn would never had done a deal with LBWF .

Anything you mention about hearn is simply
Irrelevant & is argumentative to the original point
I made .

We are 4 points behind plymouth & LOFC ( clapton or leyton or just plane orient)
has never in its history owned the ground they played football on

It's not irrelevant though. It is the single biggest issue facing LOFC. Whilst the Hearn's still have any stake or control in LOFC, the club is not safe.