Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
No but that was then . Hopefully working with Eddie Howe these last few years he's picked up a lot . Anyway, he's got the gig at Orient now so let's see how things go .
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
The report! On the contrary, given the near impossible situation he found himself in I would say Plymouth today have much to be grateful for. With added maturity now, that experience will hold him in good stead when he starts to input his ideas here.
As for a fans view. I’m willing to bet every manager in th country will have those who are dissatisfied with their performance and approach to the game. Impossible to please everybody, a rare thing when any manager does that, we Orient will always be grateful for someone who did just that.
So take these views with a pinch of salt and let his actions speak louder than those old words.
As for a fans view. I’m willing to bet every manager in th country will have those who are dissatisfied with their performance and approach to the game. Impossible to please everybody, a rare thing when any manager does that, we Orient will always be grateful for someone who did just that.
So take these views with a pinch of salt and let his actions speak louder than those old words.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
I doubt a loan manager actually works with Eddie Howe that much , day to day.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
Maybe not day to day but still a lot over his five year service .Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:30 pm I doubt a loan manager actually works with Eddie Howe that much , day to day.
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8 years working with a manager who's achieved great things at Bournemouth has to count for something surely.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
He played tippy tippy football with players passing it backwards or sideways. He is a perfect fit. I have changed my mind! He doesn’t give the young players a game. Excellent. Like a hand in a glove. Welcome Carl.
Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
Think the Howe connection is overrated myself.
Ferguson was one of the best of all time, not many of those who worked with him managed to get much of his magic.
Of course people are gonna say nice things which are easy to win over the fans with.
Short of a disaster he has a free pass this season, judged on results next season. More interested to see if he can fix the defence, that is the real weakness.
Ferguson was one of the best of all time, not many of those who worked with him managed to get much of his magic.
Of course people are gonna say nice things which are easy to win over the fans with.
Short of a disaster he has a free pass this season, judged on results next season. More interested to see if he can fix the defence, that is the real weakness.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
Thank you . Exactly.UpminsterO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:31 pm He means in the club environment /culture / management ethos / team
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
Fair comment on Ferguson. Can't think of a single assistant, coach or long serving player of his who has pulled up any trees in management.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
No guarantee's in football . I wanted a more experienced manager but even then it's 50/50 as to whether things work out OK . Having watching Carl's and Martin's interviews , I don't see any reasons why Carl Fletcher can't be a success at Orient . Obviously time will tell so I wish him good luck.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
After reading that, im even more certain it was the wrong appointment, than I was yesterday
Time will tell for certain
Time will tell for certain
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
I think you are somewhat overlooking Steve McClaren's League Cup triumph in 2004.eagwgw wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:20 pm Think the Howe connection is overrated myself.
Ferguson was one of the best of all time, not many of those who worked with him managed to get much of his magic.
Of course people are gonna say nice things which are easy to win over the fans with.
Short of a disaster he has a free pass this season, judged on results next season. More interested to see if he can fix the defence, that is the real weakness.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
Of course it's biased, but it doesn't mean it's not valid.
The Crewe fan that posted about Steve Davis ended up being almost entirely correct. I suppose the difference here is that Fletcher has had some time to improve himself and change things, Davis did not.
You can see why he interviewed so well, he seems a nice guy but also there are many things in his favour: worked with a previous director of football, style of football would be close to Lingy's, also would be amenable to Ross (they were not at Bournemouth at the same time but surely must have lots of mutual contacts having done the same job).
It does seem that play-offs are the target next year going by Teague's points predictions, I do think he has a tough job on his hands. Hopefully he will get the green light for a few signings in January.
The Crewe fan that posted about Steve Davis ended up being almost entirely correct. I suppose the difference here is that Fletcher has had some time to improve himself and change things, Davis did not.
You can see why he interviewed so well, he seems a nice guy but also there are many things in his favour: worked with a previous director of football, style of football would be close to Lingy's, also would be amenable to Ross (they were not at Bournemouth at the same time but surely must have lots of mutual contacts having done the same job).
It does seem that play-offs are the target next year going by Teague's points predictions, I do think he has a tough job on his hands. Hopefully he will get the green light for a few signings in January.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
Please Carl no, I just can’t stand the notion of possession for the sake of not letting the opposition have the ball, possession that leads to nothing. Give me an approach that gets the ball into dangerous areas as quickly as possible every time.
I am not talking about route one, but midfielders and wide men that attack with pace.
I hope that comment about not playing young players is also wrong , age shouldn’t have anything to do with team selection, if their good enough their old enough.
I am not talking about route one, but midfielders and wide men that attack with pace.
I hope that comment about not playing young players is also wrong , age shouldn’t have anything to do with team selection, if their good enough their old enough.
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Re: Plymouth fan's view on Fletcher
Not sure why they would have thoughts at a
" sniff of the play-offs ".
But having read social media , plymouth fans they thought they were going to p155 this league,
there only a point above us & didnt have the tragedy
we had.
Surely its as much of unrealistic fan syndrome as it is anything else.
Hard work & good plans lead to play-offs & promotion.
Something T&T seem to have in hand
Just need everything else to fall into place.
" sniff of the play-offs ".
But having read social media , plymouth fans they thought they were going to p155 this league,
there only a point above us & didnt have the tragedy
we had.
Surely its as much of unrealistic fan syndrome as it is anything else.
Hard work & good plans lead to play-offs & promotion.
Something T&T seem to have in hand
Just need everything else to fall into place.