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Cars are not the problem and you know that.

Coal fired power stations, cheap energy based on natural resources have allowed manufacturing to take over based on consumer demand. This has led to pollution increases and the removal of natural habitats. Clean water without desalination is a problem, the destruction of the rain forest is not helping, the extinction of species is not helping. Take palm oil it's a massive problem which no one seems to want to address.

I love my meat, I love a steak like the next man, but the reality is cows cause more harm to the environment than all the cars in the world together.

We breed as a race like no one else, the other day I said its controversial, but the Pope could help by allowing birth control. We may as a race need to go further and control the population as its not sustainable in the long run.

I mentioned about the ground sourced heat pump, add in wind and solar power and we start to find ways of renewable energy without the impact that fossil fuels bring. Necular power could be the answer, but is it safe? Today the vested interests won't allow that to happen, so it stays expensive. Governments are not serious in making or effecting change, until they do things are going to get worse.
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Max B Gold wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 am
Thor wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:39 am
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:10 pm

Protest. What is point? What is point protest?

Were you off school sick when they looked at Chartism?
I’m not sure that is taught is schools back then or even now. Maybe you need to be in a special left wing school to be taught that? Like Hogwarts, but named something Marxists Secdondary Modern.
It was taught at my school. It's part of the history of the British working class to gain parliamentary representation and accountability I'm depressed that you appear to revel in your ignorance.
No mate i was not taught it, be interested to hear if others were. The rest of the post was lighthearted poke of fun at you.
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Thor wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:07 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 am
Thor wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:39 am

I’m not sure that is taught is schools back then or even now. Maybe you need to be in a special left wing school to be taught that? Like Hogwarts, but named something Marxists Secdondary Modern.
It was taught at my school. It's part of the history of the British working class to gain parliamentary representation and accountability I'm depressed that you appear to revel in your ignorance.
No mate i was not taught it, be interested to hear if others were. The rest of the post was lighthearted poke of fun at you.
Not in my school either. Well not whilst I was awake.
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Lucky7 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:30 am
Thor wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:17 am
Lucky7 wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:52 am

Are you ditching your 4 cars for a tandem then?
The reality is working in the city you take public transport, outside of that I don't do too many miles if I'm honest. Three of my cars did less than a 1,000 miles between them last year for example. The family car did about 10k.

Take today, its rubbish day, I take pride every week that I put out the most recycling in my road. Not because I consume the most, but because I recycle absolutely everything and my wheelie bin which I believe goes to landfill has rarely got much in it.
So your still trying to justify your it’s ok I’m Thor I have 4 cars stance?
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Be lucky in your travels this morning, XR people have climbed on top of trains on the jubilee line and DLR.

Just seen a video on tv where people at caning town have had enough, someone got up top pulled the XR man down and then the crowd just started beating him up. Again they are targeting the wrong people and stopping people going about their lawful business, the crowd there have turned.
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Update it’s proper kicked off at Canning Town, fights breaking out all along the platform against any XR people who are getting whacked and when they fall stamped on. It’s a bit strong in my view, but it begs the question where are BTP?
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Thor wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 am Update it’s proper kicked off at Canning Town, fights breaking out all along the platform against any XR people who are getting whacked and when they fall stamped on. It’s a bit strong in my view, but it begs the question where are BTP?
Casually making their way there I guess.
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Absolute scum. I hope all those assaulting the activists are identified and dealt with by the courts.
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RedO wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:53 am Absolute scum. I hope all those assaulting the activists are identified and dealt with by the courts.
Whilst assault should not be ignored, the activists who were rightly arrested are trespassing, causing delays, and I’m sure breaking other laws which Spen could and should advise us of. At the very least he should advise how the customers who punched and kicked the men can evade arrest as he seems quite well versed in that aspect of law.
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Thor wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:33 am
RedO wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:53 am Absolute scum. I hope all those assaulting the activists are identified and dealt with by the courts.
Whilst assault should not be ignored, the activists who were rightly arrested are trespassing, causing delays, and I’m sure breaking other laws which Spen could and should advise us of. At the very least he should advise how the customers who punched and kicked the men can evade arrest as he seems quite well versed in that aspect of law.
Nice whatabouterry. It's almost as if you really aren't on the side of the protestors.


Not sure 'causing delays' is against the law but happy to bow to spens expert knowledge.
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Oh no did one of stinky rebellion get a pasting for trying to delay people to get to work etc aw what a shame
Fancy picking Canning Town in the first place😂😂
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The public have spoken. These Extinction Rebellion idiots might have a sensible cause, but they need to read " How to Win Friends & Influence People "
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They're not trying to win friends. This is a bit more important than that.
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Thor wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 am Update it’s proper kicked off at Canning Town, fights breaking out all along the platform against any XR people who are getting whacked and when they fall stamped on. It’s a bit strong in my view, but it begs the question where are BTP?
Hopefully in plain clothes giving the XR idiot a good kicking...especially as he kicked a member of public first. He deserves all he gets and then some
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Lucky7 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:03 am Oh no did one of stinky rebellion get a pasting for trying to delay people to get to work etc aw what a shame
Fancy picking Canning Town in the first place😂😂
Didn't do their homework on that one :lol:
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spen666 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:36 am
Thor wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 am Update it’s proper kicked off at Canning Town, fights breaking out all along the platform against any XR people who are getting whacked and when they fall stamped on. It’s a bit strong in my view, but it begs the question where are BTP?
Hopefully in plain clothes giving the XR idiot a good kicking...especially as he kicked a member of public first. He deserves all he gets and then some
Wrong alias, spen.
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RedO wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:38 am
Thor wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:33 am
RedO wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:53 am Absolute scum. I hope all those assaulting the activists are identified and dealt with by the courts.
Whilst assault should not be ignored, the activists who were rightly arrested are trespassing, causing delays, and I’m sure breaking other laws which Spen could and should advise us of. At the very least he should advise how the customers who punched and kicked the men can evade arrest as he seems quite well versed in that aspect of law.
Nice whatabouterry. It's almost as if you really aren't on the side of the protestors.


Not sure 'causing delays' is against the law but happy to bow to spens expert knowledge.
Trespass on the railway

Obstruction of railway I believe still carries a maximum of life sentence

S3, s4 or s5 public order.


The members of public were making a citizens arrest and are able to use force necessary to detain criminal...especially when said criminal started violence by kicking member of public in head. Criminal had shown himself to be violent and needed restraining.


Also members of the public were acting in self defence or defence of others which is a defence to assault. Criminal lau ched luscious and unprovoked attack on member of public by kicking him in head.

No one saw anyone kick the criminal or assault him. The 1000 people on platform were all looking the other way when assault happened
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RedO wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:43 am
spen666 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:36 am
Thor wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 am Update it’s proper kicked off at Canning Town, fights breaking out all along the platform against any XR people who are getting whacked and when they fall stamped on. It’s a bit strong in my view, but it begs the question where are BTP?
Hopefully in plain clothes giving the XR idiot a good kicking...especially as he kicked a member of public first. He deserves all he gets and then some
Wrong alias, spen.
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BTP said it was investigating what happened at Canning Town station, adding it was "concerning to see that a number of commuters took matters into their own hands, displaying violent behaviour to detain a protester".
The quote from the BBC website was obviously cut short as it was surely meant to go onto say
Using violent behavior to detain a protestor is clearly a role reserved for police officers
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RedO said They're not trying to win friends. This is a bit more important than that.
I would have thought that if you are trying to greatly influence Public Opinion, the first thing you need to do is get the public on your side. It is obvious that these eejits have not done a days work in their life. Anyone with half a brain knows that Londoners are not at their happiest while setting off to work. I totally agree that climate change could be one of the most important issues of our lifetime. It is the fact that these eejits are setting the agenda.
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They're not trying to greatly influence Public Opinion.

They just want the government to start taking action.
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RedO wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:36 pm They're not trying to greatly influence Public Opinion.

They just want the government to start taking action.
Que?

Yes they are because pressure on our self serving political representatives who have their own agenda from the public will result in action.
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Sums up why the planet is doomed. People are not even prepared for a train delay never mind asking them to take less flights or eat less meat etc. Humans are scum. Time we were wiped out.
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Or, maybe there are technological solutions?
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RedO wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:53 am Absolute scum. I hope all those assaulting the activists are identified and dealt with by the courts.
Disagree, give them medals & throw the protesters in the slammer.
With XR the clue is in the title Rebellion.
They so intent on causing upheaval & being rebellious, the message they are trying to promote gets completely lost.
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