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Shocking racism in Sofia tonight from the right-wing, Nazi saluting Bulgarian ‘fans’. Well done England for keeping their composure, although Byways would accuse them of ‘running to teacher’ and not being grasses.

When will UEFA finally take racism in these countries seriously?
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I thought the officials took these incidents seriously tonight. And about time. A step in the right direction.
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It’s a step but nothing more and demonstrates how far we still haven’t come.
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Absolutely shocking behaviour but unfortunately the problem is too big for Football alone to deal with.
Like hooligans this scum are an element in society and are difficult to eradicate totally.
I’m glad the England players didn’t walk off as then the racists would have won.
I’m not sure how Football or Society deals with the problem, it’s not easy, but the England team tonight dealt with it superbly.
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Greg Clarke is right, whilst we condem the racist abuse we must not forget its sill evident throughout the pyramid in our game and we need to join forces to eradicate it from the game completely.

The Bulgarians are scum though, nazi salautes, disgusting.
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Cheshunto wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:53 pm Absolutely shocking behaviour but unfortunately the problem is too big for Football alone to deal with.
Like hooligans this scum are an element in society and are difficult to eradicate totally.
I’m glad the England players didn’t walk off as then the racists would have won.
I’m not sure how Football or Society deals with the problem, it’s not easy, but the England team tonight dealt with it superbly.
Agree, the team dealt with it superbly. Just listening to Mings and the action in the first half did make a difference, which is pleasing. The officials I think dealt with things well.

Still a long way to go. But a good start.
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Thor wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:00 pm Greg Clarke is right, whilst we condem the racist abuse we must not forget its sill evident throughout the pyramid in our game and we need to join forces to eradicate it from the game completely.

The Bulgarians are scum though, nazi salautes, disgusting.
An element of the Bulgarians are scum. I would hate to brand a nation on the basis of those individuals.
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It's pretty bad in central Europe, the further east you go, the worse it gets. Multi culturalism is slow to move east due to the relative poverty but it is happening, mostly promoted by Schengen freedoms. Brexit will not help.
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I do feel for them a bit. Nearly all the East Europeans have come over to the UK to better themselves and do the jobs that no-one else wants. They can speak and write better English than most British people and they work a whole lot harder than most of you lot for a fraction of the wages.

Since BREXIT, they feel they don't feel welcome now are are subject to violence and demands to 'f*** off to wherever they came from'. No wonder they shout and scream hatred to you.

What goes around, comes around.
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dOh Nut wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:06 pm
Thor wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:00 pm Greg Clarke is right, whilst we condem the racist abuse we must not forget its sill evident throughout the pyramid in our game and we need to join forces to eradicate it from the game completely.

The Bulgarians are scum though, nazi salautes, disgusting.
An element of the Bulgarians are scum. I would hate to brand a nation on the basis of those individuals.
I was referring to the idiots at the game, not the nation itself.
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StockholmO wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:56 am I do feel for them a bit. Nearly all the East Europeans have come over to the UK to better themselves and do the jobs that no-one else wants. They can speak and write better English than most British people and they work a whole lot harder than most of you lot for a fraction of the wages.

Since BREXIT, they feel they don't feel welcome now are are subject to violence and demands to 'f*** off to wherever they came from'. No wonder they shout and scream hatred to you.

What goes around, comes around.

What a load of anti English racist bullshit you have managed to get into one post. Congratulations.

There is not a shred of evidence to support a single item in your post.

The fact that some of the Bulgarians who engaged in racist behaviour were only abusing the black England players & not the White players & the fact there was no attacks on England fans makes it clear to any person engaging their brain that the incidents had sweet FA to do with Brexit.
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StockholmO wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:56 am I do feel for them a bit. Nearly all the East Europeans have come over to the UK to better themselves and do the jobs that no-one else wants. They can speak and write better English than most British people and they work a whole lot harder than most of you lot for a fraction of the wages.

Since BREXIT, they feel they don't feel welcome now are are subject to violence and demands to 'f*** off to wherever they came from'. No wonder they shout and scream hatred to you.

What goes around, comes around.
Sorry Dis, ComeonyouOs, Poundshop & Bygrave.
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StockholmO wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:56 am I do feel for them a bit. Nearly all the East Europeans have come over to the UK to better themselves and do the jobs that no-one else wants. They can speak and write better English than most British people and they work a whole lot harder than most of you lot for a fraction of the wages.

Since BREXIT, they feel they don't feel welcome now are are subject to violence and demands to 'f*** off to wherever they came from'. No wonder they shout and scream hatred to you.

What goes around, comes around.
Wtf?????
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There speaks a brexiteer. Of course brexit is not to blame, the point l made is merely that people who live in isolation from the rest of the world, like eastern Europe (and Alabama) don't get to experience multi culturism and so fall prey prey to their own insularity and the small mindedness that it usually produces. Just like we did in my youth when it was normal to see signs in London saying "no blacks, no dogs, no lrish". Immigration brought an end to that as people gained their own experience. The EU, particularly Schengen, is how to defeat such ignorance, thus brexit is counter productive in the overall scheme of it.
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Bulgaria coach Krasimir Balakov; "I personally did not hear the chanting."

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What is this “experience” of multiculturism” you talk about. The reason most people in this country have accepted it is because they have no choice. The British just have a habit of not complaining and are reserved. Don’t kid yourself that in the comfort of their own home and especially outside London, most people are pretty racist. It’s just hidden behind the twitching curtain. Not just Brits though. I have worked in plenty of countries. The Hong Kong people hate the Chinese. Singaporeans don’t like Malaysians. Americans hate Mexicans. Mexicans hate Colombians. The list is endless. It will never change.The difference between the Bulgarian supporters is that they don’t care saying it because they won’t be chucked into prison for a year + Eastern European governments actively encourage it. The papers take this morning is classic the British sh*t don’t stink. That we are exceptional as a race. We could be proud of our supporters for condemning it. It’s mainly because our supporters have spotters and hundreds of cameras panned on them. If they could get away with it a number would. A few nights before they tried to smash up Prague. I kind of get what Stockholm is trying to say although my mod job has just gone out the window.
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Milano wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:40 am There speaks a brexiteer. Of course brexit is not to blame, the point l made is merely that people who live in isolation from the rest of the world, like eastern Europe (and Alabama) don't get to experience multi culturism and so fall prey prey to their own insularity and the small mindedness that it usually produces. Just like we did in my youth when it was normal to see signs in London saying "no blacks, no dogs, no lrish". Immigration brought an end to that as people gained their own experience. The EU, particularly Schengen, is how to defeat such ignorance, thus brexit is counter productive in the overall scheme of it.
So Britain choosing to leave a political union causes some Bulgarians to abuse black footballers?

You do spout some crap.

Racism causes some Bulgarians to abuse black footballers, nothing else.

You do the anti racism campaign so much garm by spouting rubbish like this.

Racism didn't exist before the referendum did it not?
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spen666... you surpass yourself. There's no point in continuing this, the last word is yours.... go ahead.
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This continual attack on Spen666 is an absolute disgrace, bullying. Almost every post is attacked.
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spen666 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:06 am
Milano wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:40 am There speaks a brexiteer. Of course brexit is not to blame, the point l made is merely that people who live in isolation from the rest of the world, like eastern Europe (and Alabama) don't get to experience multi culturism and so fall prey prey to their own insularity and the small mindedness that it usually produces. Just like we did in my youth when it was normal to see signs in London saying "no blacks, no dogs, no lrish". Immigration brought an end to that as people gained their own experience. The EU, particularly Schengen, is how to defeat such ignorance, thus brexit is counter productive in the overall scheme of it.
So Britain choosing to leave a political union causes some Bulgarians to abuse black footballers?

You do spout some crap.

Racism causes some Bulgarians to abuse black footballers, nothing else.

You do the anti racism campaign so much garm by spouting rubbish like this.

Racism didn't exist before the referendum did it not?
Err... doesn't the first line of Milano's post say Brexit isn't to blame?
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admin wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:55 am
spen666 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:06 am
Milano wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:40 am There speaks a brexiteer. Of course brexit is not to blame, the point l made is merely that people who live in isolation from the rest of the world, like eastern Europe (and Alabama) don't get to experience multi culturism and so fall prey prey to their own insularity and the small mindedness that it usually produces. Just like we did in my youth when it was normal to see signs in London saying "no blacks, no dogs, no lrish". Immigration brought an end to that as people gained their own experience. The EU, particularly Schengen, is how to defeat such ignorance, thus brexit is counter productive in the overall scheme of it.
So Britain choosing to leave a political union causes some Bulgarians to abuse black footballers?

You do spout some crap.

Racism causes some Bulgarians to abuse black footballers, nothing else.

You do the anti racism campaign so much garm by spouting rubbish like this.

Racism didn't exist before the referendum did it not?
Err... doesn't the first line of Milano's post say Brexit isn't to blame?
He does, but then goes on to blame Brexit.

Read the last line
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StockholmO wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:56 am I do feel for them a bit. Nearly all the East Europeans have come over to the UK to better themselves and do the jobs that no-one else wants. They can speak and write better English than most British people and they work a whole lot harder than most of you lot for a fraction of the wages.

Since BREXIT, they feel they don't feel welcome now are are subject to violence and demands to 'f*** off to wherever they came from'. No wonder they shout and scream hatred to you.

What goes around, comes around.
What a load of old ********
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Thor wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:42 am
dOh Nut wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:06 pm
Thor wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:00 pm Greg Clarke is right, whilst we condem the racist abuse we must not forget its sill evident throughout the pyramid in our game and we need to join forces to eradicate it from the game completely.

The Bulgarians are scum though, nazi salautes, disgusting.
An element of the Bulgarians are scum. I would hate to brand a nation on the basis of those individuals.
I was referring to the idiots at the game, not the nation itself.
I thought so but just wanted to clarify. I have no doubt there are many decent hard working Bulgarians who were ashamed and disgusted by the behaviour of a few of their countrymen.
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Glad to see so many people calling out Stockholm's ludicrous post. Progress being made here too.
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