Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
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Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Unelected, arrogant, clueless and has no empathy.
There is simply no-one worse.
There is simply no-one worse.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Makes Malcolm Tucker look like a cuddly dream.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Probably, but if you think back he’s the same as Alistair Campbell. Why are these type of people hated so much? So divisive, so oblivious to people’s needs.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
I fear opinion may again be divided along familiar lines once more.
If you count rent a gobs as being in politics then i reckon Katie Hopkins pips him. Spouts hwr racist poo poo for the sake of her bank balance rather than out of genuine hatred or stupidity. The callousness of that is worse than the evil of people who really hold those views.
Dominic Cummings is like the weird kid at school who was always burning holes in sh*t with his magnifying glass just to see what happened.
If you count rent a gobs as being in politics then i reckon Katie Hopkins pips him. Spouts hwr racist poo poo for the sake of her bank balance rather than out of genuine hatred or stupidity. The callousness of that is worse than the evil of people who really hold those views.
Dominic Cummings is like the weird kid at school who was always burning holes in sh*t with his magnifying glass just to see what happened.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Hopkins is proper mental.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Exactly.Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:24 am I fear opinion may again be divided along familiar lines once
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
The difference between Cummings and his predecessors (Nick Timothy comes to mind) is that he actually thinks he is a genius. If any of you have ever read his ramblings at https://dominiccummings.com (and you really shouldn't) you would know that he considers himself of superior intellect. Hence, his tendency when confronted by individual MP's to ask "who are you", they are below him. On the bright side he will crash in flames very very soon.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
I thought it was people like him that created Brexit. Unelected arrogant people in Brussels who are clueless.Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:04 am Unelected, arrogant, clueless and has no empathy.
There is simply no-one worse.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Two points on that. Unsure if the 'who are you?' was genuine ignorance or just an insult as he'd already told Turner to 'get Brexit done', which suggests he knew he was an MP and probably knew who he was. So he's a fanny either way.jamespevans wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:49 am The difference between Cummings and his predecessors (Nick Timothy comes to mind) is that he actually thinks he is a genius. If any of you have ever read his ramblings at https://dominiccummings.com (and you really shouldn't) you would know that he considers himself of superior intellect. Hence, his tendency when confronted by individual MP's to ask "who are you", they are below him. On the bright side he will crash in flames very very soon.
On Timothy, not so sure he doesn't think he's a genius, considering as soon as he left/got sacked by May, he walked straight into a Times column gig where he opined about the right way to do everything, neatly glossing over the fact he'd presided over several disasters. He's as Teflon as the rest of them.
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Hard not to see BJ and Cummings as a package. Unclear at the moment which one is the evil genius and which is the sidekick.
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So he's a c either way. Not a nice thing to say is itProposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:41 amTwo points on that. Unsure if the 'who are you?' was genuine ignorance or just an insult as he'd already told Turner to 'get Brexit done', which suggests he knew he was an MP and probably knew who he was. So he's a c*** either way.jamespevans wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:49 am The difference between Cummings and his predecessors (Nick Timothy comes to mind) is that he actually thinks he is a genius. If any of you have ever read his ramblings at https://dominiccummings.com (and you really shouldn't) you would know that he considers himself of superior intellect. Hence, his tendency when confronted by individual MP's to ask "who are you", they are below him. On the bright side he will crash in flames very very soon.
On Timothy, not so sure he doesn't think he's a genius, considering as soon as he left/got sacked by May, he walked straight into a Times column gig where he opined about the right way to do everything, neatly glossing over the fact he'd presided over several disasters. He's as Teflon as the rest of them.
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Thought you were describing yourself there for a minuteDisoriented wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:04 am Unelected, arrogant, clueless and has no empathy.
There is simply no-one worse.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Cummings used to work with a guy I know who runs a multi billion dollar hedge fund. Cummings is actually a genius. His strategy is working at the moment. Look how angry the Labour Party are meanwhile the Tory base are lapping it up. Cummings knows he needs all the brexit party votes ergo gone all Reg from Clacton.Thing is, I think he has blown it this time. A pact with the brexit party would work but the born to rule Tories lead by Cummings and Johnson have said no. They have not learned from Cameron and his fruitcakes line and the last thing out of central office was Farage is not a fit and proper person (which may be right but it’s a mute point). Not enough Brexit party voters will vote Tory anymore. I can guarantee it. My prediction for any election is that the Lib Dem’ win it. The brexit party will do better than expected and labour and the Tories vote collapses (labour more)
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
He's a smart cookie alright. But that's a bold prediction re Lib Dems 'winning' a general election. Are you basing that on some leave voters thinking that, if no deal is just going to happen, then may as well remain? Because I cannot see the remain vote unifying sufficiently for it to work across enough constituencies. I could see them gaining seats, for sure, but not winning.Beradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:51 am Cummings used to work with a guy I know who runs a multi billion dollar hedge fund. Cummings is actually a genius. His strategy is working at the moment. Look how angry the Labour Party are meanwhile the Tory base are lapping it up. Cummings knows he needs all the brexit party votes ergo gone all Reg from Clacton.Thing is, I think he has blown it this time. A pact with the brexit party would work but the born to rule Tories lead by Cummings and Johnson have said no. They have not learned from Cameron and his fruitcakes line and the last thing out of central office was Farage is not a fit and proper person (which may be right but it’s a mute point). Not enough Brexit party voters will vote Tory anymore. I can guarantee it. My prediction for any election is that the Lib Dem’ win it. The brexit party will do better than expected and labour and the Tories vote collapses (labour more)
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Sorry snowflake.point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:41 amSo he's a c either way. Not a nice thing to say is itProposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:41 amTwo points on that. Unsure if the 'who are you?' was genuine ignorance or just an insult as he'd already told Turner to 'get Brexit done', which suggests he knew he was an MP and probably knew who he was. So he's a c*** either way.jamespevans wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:49 am The difference between Cummings and his predecessors (Nick Timothy comes to mind) is that he actually thinks he is a genius. If any of you have ever read his ramblings at https://dominiccummings.com (and you really shouldn't) you would know that he considers himself of superior intellect. Hence, his tendency when confronted by individual MP's to ask "who are you", they are below him. On the bright side he will crash in flames very very soon.
On Timothy, not so sure he doesn't think he's a genius, considering as soon as he left/got sacked by May, he walked straight into a Times column gig where he opined about the right way to do everything, neatly glossing over the fact he'd presided over several disasters. He's as Teflon as the rest of them.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Don't get me started. Next you'll see "Individual 1" retweeting that vile thing.Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:24 am I fear opinion may again be divided along familiar lines once more.
If you count rent a gobs as being in politics then i reckon Katie Hopkins pips him. Spouts hwr racist poo poo for the sake of her bank balance rather than out of genuine hatred or stupidity. The callousness of that is worse than the evil of people who really hold those views.
Dominic Cummings is like the weird kid at school who was always burning holes in sh*t with his magnifying glass just to see what happened.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
LibDems winning the GE? How on god's earth would that happen?
There are enough people that vote Tory/Labour out of pure habit to stop that happening alone, let alone once you add in the clued ins that don't think the Libs are worth a toss.
The problem for the Libs will be once the election kicks in the Tories, Labour and the Brexit party will hog the air time because that is the narrative everyone cares about. Any time the Libs get will be spent scrutinising their entirely dubious political platform and their shameful record in government.
There are enough people that vote Tory/Labour out of pure habit to stop that happening alone, let alone once you add in the clued ins that don't think the Libs are worth a toss.
The problem for the Libs will be once the election kicks in the Tories, Labour and the Brexit party will hog the air time because that is the narrative everyone cares about. Any time the Libs get will be spent scrutinising their entirely dubious political platform and their shameful record in government.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Because they are successful at what they do and are a threat to the wishes/ desires of their opponents
Right wingers disliked/ hated Campbell because he was successful at getting Blair's policies/ ideas into play and challenged what those on the right wanted.
Ditto with Cummings...he successfully ran the Leave campaign and achieved what the remainers didn't want and now he is prepared to stand up to his haters and not simply roll over. He and Boris are far closer to bringing about Brexit that the subservient Teresa May was and as such is a real threat to wishes/ desires of remainers.
Both Campbell and Cummings were prepared to stand up for what they wanted and fight fire with fire.
Going back a little further, Bernard Ingham did a similar role for Margaret Thatcher and was similarly despised by those on the left
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Beradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:51 am Cummings used to work with a guy I know who runs a multi billion dollar hedge fund. Cummings is actually a genius. His strategy is working at the moment. Look how angry the Labour Party are meanwhile the Tory base are lapping it up. Cummings knows he needs all the brexit party votes ergo gone all Reg from Clacton.Thing is, I think he has blown it this time. A pact with the brexit party would work but the born to rule Tories lead by Cummings and Johnson have said no. They have not learned from Cameron and his fruitcakes line and the last thing out of central office was Farage is not a fit and proper person (which may be right but it’s a mute point). Not enough Brexit party voters will vote Tory anymore. I can guarantee it. My prediction for any election is that the Lib Dem’ win it. The brexit party will do better than expected and labour and the Tories vote collapses (labour more)
Hmm, talk about wanting your cake and eating it
His strategy is working
He has blown it this time
So you think he is winning and losing?
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Anyway, back to the original question - he's obviously a vile individual, but is he the worst? I doubt it. I'm sure there's lots and lots of people just like him within politics. It's just he's the one with the most clout at the moment.
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spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:40 amBeradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:51 am Cummings used to work with a guy I know who runs a multi billion dollar hedge fund. Cummings is actually a genius. His strategy is working at the moment. Look how angry the Labour Party are meanwhile the Tory base are lapping it up. Cummings knows he needs all the brexit party votes ergo gone all Reg from Clacton.Thing is, I think he has blown it this time. A pact with the brexit party would work but the born to rule Tories lead by Cummings and Johnson have said no. They have not learned from Cameron and his fruitcakes line and the last thing out of central office was Farage is not a fit and proper person (which may be right but it’s a mute point). Not enough Brexit party voters will vote Tory anymore. I can guarantee it. My prediction for any election is that the Lib Dem’ win it. The brexit party will do better than expected and labour and the Tories vote collapses (labour more)
Hmm, talk about wanting your cake and eating it
His strategy is working
He has blown it this time
So you think he is winning and losing?
You missed the at the moment bit off. Cheeky.
I see labour at 22%. Brexit party 20. Tories. 26%. Libs 26 and a bit. I could be completely wrong. Whatever happens it’s going to be as tight as a gnats chaff.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Beradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:09 amspen666 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:40 amBeradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:51 am Cummings used to work with a guy I know who runs a multi billion dollar hedge fund. Cummings is actually a genius. His strategy is working at the moment. Look how angry the Labour Party are meanwhile the Tory base are lapping it up. Cummings knows he needs all the brexit party votes ergo gone all Reg from Clacton.Thing is, I think he has blown it this time. A pact with the brexit party would work but the born to rule Tories lead by Cummings and Johnson have said no. They have not learned from Cameron and his fruitcakes line and the last thing out of central office was Farage is not a fit and proper person (which may be right but it’s a mute point). Not enough Brexit party voters will vote Tory anymore. I can guarantee it. My prediction for any election is that the Lib Dem’ win it. The brexit party will do better than expected and labour and the Tories vote collapses (labour more)
Hmm, talk about wanting your cake and eating it
His strategy is working
He has blown it this time
So you think he is winning and losing?
If he has blown it, then his strategy cannot not be working at the moment
You missed the at the moment bit off. Cheeky.
I see labour at 22%. Brexit party 20. Tories. 26%. Libs 26 and a bit. I could be completely wrong. Whatever happens it’s going to be as tight as a gnats chaff.
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Actually that makes it worseBeradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:09 amspen666 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:40 amBeradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:51 am Cummings used to work with a guy I know who runs a multi billion dollar hedge fund. Cummings is actually a genius. His strategy is working at the moment. Look how angry the Labour Party are meanwhile the Tory base are lapping it up. Cummings knows he needs all the brexit party votes ergo gone all Reg from Clacton.Thing is, I think he has blown it this time. A pact with the brexit party would work but the born to rule Tories lead by Cummings and Johnson have said no. They have not learned from Cameron and his fruitcakes line and the last thing out of central office was Farage is not a fit and proper person (which may be right but it’s a mute point). Not enough Brexit party voters will vote Tory anymore. I can guarantee it. My prediction for any election is that the Lib Dem’ win it. The brexit party will do better than expected and labour and the Tories vote collapses (labour more)
Hmm, talk about wanting your cake and eating it
His strategy is working
He has blown it this time
So you think he is winning and losing?
You missed the at the moment bit off. Cheeky.
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Re: Is Dominic Cummings the most reprehensible figure in British politics?
Unelected, yes. Do you have a proof source for the other assertions or is it just your opinion based on your politics/Remain views? Or perhaps you know him personally?Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:04 am Unelected, arrogant, clueless and has no empathy.
There is simply no-one worse.