Bury Fc

[RedDwarf 1881]

No chance of it happening - rules are rules.

Agreed . It would make a mockery of them and be unfair on previous clubs who had to go through the same situation

[Still's Carenae]

Cannot see how clubs can vote on tearing up the rule book. Bury would have been relegated this season, no squad and minis 12 points.Why just relegated them one division? I have nothing against Bury just don't see how some rules can just be waived.

Just get to the supreme court. They will go against any institution.

[Disoriented]

No chance of it happening - rules are rules.

Agreed . It would make a mockery of them and be unfair on previous clubs who had to go through the same situation

You are right. They need to start again in a lower tier like AFC Wimbledon or Max’s mates at Sevco Utd.

[Thor]

It’s a terrible shame what happened to Bury, but they should have to start at the point where the laws say they should. The league should not give them any special dispensation. The owner is still the same person so nothing has changed there, if they are re admitted it makes a mockery of the competition.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49829915

The article presents the below options that clubs can vote for. The middle one was previously incorrect but now has been corrected.

1) To remain at 71 members

2) To return to 72 members, with the club finishing second bottom in League Two receiving a reprieve, and two clubs promoted from the National League

3) Or, to return to 72 members with either the runner-up in the National League also promoted - or with another club added, eg Bury

Did the League (as opposed to other less official sources) announce that only one team would go down from L2 before the transfer deadline? I can imagine that some clubs changed their last minute transfer plans based on one team going down, especially if it was based on an announcement from the league.

[Thor]

I believe that it was said 1 club would go down, it not sure it was an EFL press release though.

[Redcard]

It would be setting a very dangerous precedent to allow bury to retain their league status . Sorry, but they must start from scratch as cruel as it is for their supporters.

[Thor]

Agreed

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

It would be setting a very dangerous precedent to allow bury to retain their league status . Sorry, but they must start from scratch as cruel as it is for their supporters.

It is a tough call but I make you right. Gutted for Bury fans, we know only too well as it was a close run thing for us. But it would be a very dangerous precedent.

[Long slender neck]

Dont see the harm in them starting in League Two next year. It would just be as if they have forfeited all of this seasons games.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Dont see the harm in them starting in League Two next year. It would just be as if they have forfeited all of this seasons games.

So any club who gets into major financial issues etc can expect to start again in L2. And if that team is already in L2 then they get a free ride.

And what happens to their debts?

[Thor]

They must start at the bottom, otherwise what's to stop a club going for broke to make it to the premier league, run up massive debts which can't be serviced and the go in to a cva, don't close out the cva and don't play your fixtures. Then wipe your debts out, start again and be in league 1 or 2.

Unworkable and crazy to allow this to happen. There has to be a punishment and or deterrent.

[Long slender neck]

Dont see the harm in them starting in League Two next year. It would just be as if they have forfeited all of this seasons games.

So any club who gets into major financial issues etc can expect to start again in L2. And if that team is already in L2 then they get a free ride.

And what happens to their debts?

relegate them 2 divisions then. You tell me about the debts, Mr Business brains.

[bobo66]

It would be setting a very dangerous precedent to allow bury to retain their league status . Sorry, but they must start from scratch as cruel as it is for their supporters.

I'm sure there's different rules in Scotland, but that's what happened with Rangers.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Dont see the harm in them starting in League Two next year. It would just be as if they have forfeited all of this seasons games.

So any club who gets into major financial issues etc can expect to start again in L2. And if that team is already in L2 then they get a free ride.

And what happens to their debts?

relegate them 2 divisions then. You tell me about the debts, Mr Business brains.

No idea what’s happening with their debts, but it was debts that caused the problem. The point being that to simply put them in L2 ignores debts being created and without real penalty. Leaves others free to do the same and when it goes tits up they just start again in L2.

I don’t think allowing them to start again in L2 will do much to stop others racking up debts in an attempt to make it to the top if the worse that can happen is demotion to L2

[RedDwarf 1881]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49829915

The article presents the below options that clubs can vote for. The middle one was previously incorrect but now has been corrected.

1) To remain at 71 members

2) To return to 72 members, with the club finishing second bottom in League Two receiving a reprieve, and two clubs promoted from the National League

3) Or, to return to 72 members with either the runner-up in the National League also promoted - or with another club added, eg Bury

Did the League (as opposed to other less official sources) announce that only one team would go down from L2 before the transfer deadline? I can imagine that some clubs changed their last minute transfer plans based on one team going down, especially if it was based on an announcement from the league.

Not because of Orient but option 2 would be the most fairest

[RientO]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/49841324

Bury definitely not coming back to L2 and just one relegation spot confirmed.

A proposal for Bury to be readmitted to League Two next season was rejected by the English Football League's 71 member clubs at a meeting on Thursday.

Bury, who were in League One, were expelled from the EFL in August after a last-ditch takeover bid collapsed.

Earlier this week, a group trying to rescue Bury submitted a plan for "compassionate re-entry" to League Two.

However, an EFL statement said "it became clear that the proposal did not have the necessary support".

It added that EFL clubs' "preferred direction of travel" was "extending the existing principle of a reduction in relegation across all divisions as a means of returning to 72 clubs now and for the future".

It means only one team will go down from League Two this campaign, rather than two.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Ok, all I ask from Orient this season is please don’t finish bottom. Consolidation this season and then try and get promotion next year

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Ok, all I ask from Orient this season is please don’t finish bottom. Consolidate this season in the EFL then kick on next and try for promotion

Amen to that. This season is one of consolidation and the chance to move on a few players who we don’t want and replace with upgrades.

I sincerely hope we consolidate comfortably around mid table. I don’t want a season looking down to see how far we are from the drop.

I’ll settle for a boring mid-table season. Though it’s tremendously sad that the demise of Bury should create this situation. I wouldn’t wish that on them.

[Thor]

The team is still capable of reaching the play offs with the right leadership.

[RientO]

The team is still capable of reaching the play offs with the right leadership.

Agree. Only 8 points away. And another 36 games to go. 61 more points should be enough.

[RedDwarf 1881]

The team is still capable of reaching the play offs with the right leadership.

Let’s hope we get the right leadership regardless.

[Thor]

The team is still capable of reaching the play offs with the right leadership.

Let’s hope we get the right leadership regardless.

Absolutely

[Disoriented]

What happened to their players?

[Thor]

Hopefully they got paid in all seriousness.