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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
Where does Geoffrey Cox stand on this now? He advised the government that what they were doing and wanted to do was lawful. He's the attorney general for christ's sake.
Looks like he will be launched under the bus, but negating that surely his position is now under jepody and scrutiny.
Looks like he will be launched under the bus, but negating that surely his position is now under jepody and scrutiny.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
You mean, negotiate us a new deal then campaign against it . Labour have lost the plot, big time.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:34 pmBoris isn't even trying to get a deal. He's running toward the cliff edge knowing he will be stopped by sensible people. But when they do he will turn round and say "well guys I tried but parliament wouldn't let me"RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:27 pm What real difference is it going to make . Boris can’t take us out of the EU without a deal by law. No matter what deal Boris gets Parliament will probably turn it down anyway even if it’s gold plated. It’s a Remainer Parliament who simply don’t want to leave. A General Election is now needed
Only Labour's promise to renegotiate a deal and put it to the people with the option to stay in makes any sense. The will of the people (whatever that MORONIC sound bite means) could then be expressed without the loony right subverting democracy to achieve Brexit
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
One other point. If Boris states the election is , say , 15th October then try’s to change that date once Parliament has disbanded for the election, Just get Gina Miller to run back to the courts again. Therefore I don’t see why there should be a hold up to have this next election.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
When remainers first complained about this unlawful shut down of parliament, brexiteers told us it was nothing to do with brexit, just to do with the Queens speech.
now since, the Supreme court verdict, brexiteers are complaining the supreme court is trying to stop brexit
Well you cant have it both ways....if it was originally nothing to do with brexit to begin with, then it cant be anything to do with brexit now.....can it?
now since, the Supreme court verdict, brexiteers are complaining the supreme court is trying to stop brexit
Well you cant have it both ways....if it was originally nothing to do with brexit to begin with, then it cant be anything to do with brexit now.....can it?
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
Rd labour is worried that not only will they be beaten, but will actually be pushed into 3rd place.
Also how can anyone vote for a party that will renegotiate the withdrawal agreement and then campaign to vote against it. I've heard some stupid things in my time, but boy does that take the biscuit.
Also how can anyone vote for a party that will renegotiate the withdrawal agreement and then campaign to vote against it. I've heard some stupid things in my time, but boy does that take the biscuit.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
It was always about Brexit we all know that, just that the government wouldn't admit it. Poor showing actually.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:07 pm When remainers first complained about this unlawful shut down of parliament, brexiteers told us it was nothing to do with brexit, just to do with the Queens speech.
now since, the Supreme court verdict, brexiteers are complaining the supreme court is trying to stop brexit
Well you cant have it both ways....if it was originally nothing to do with brexit to begin with, then it cant be anything to do with brexit now.....can it?
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As we know from the referendums in the 70s and in 2016 Brexit has it's supporters and opponents within the Labour Party. Therefore, it is not certain they would campaign against a revised deal. The position will be determined by the balance of political forces at the time.Thor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:07 pm Rd labour is worried that not only will they be beaten, but will actually be pushed into 3rd place.
Also how can anyone vote for a party that will renegotiate the withdrawal agreement and then campaign to vote against it. I've heard some stupid things in my time, but boy does that take the biscuit.
But delivering a sensible choice to the people isn't stupid. It's just you trying to repeat a cheap shot you've heard on the tellybox or radio.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
" If Boris states the election is , say , 15th October "RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:01 pm One other point. If Boris states the election is , say , 15th October then try’s to change that date once Parliament has disbanded for the election, Just get Gina Miller to run back to the courts again. Therefore I don’t see why there should be a hold up to have this next election.
He did and Tory politicians joined other parties in the house & defeated the motion .
Nothing you wrote aftr that means anything.
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Big shame that the Gov't lost - it's been great having that mad house shut down. Not one of them has come out of this with the least bit of credit.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
BonkersBeradogs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:05 pm I can’t stand Boris Johnson and the only skin I have in the game is large GBP long positions so i am not bothered per se. The way I see it, you are either on the side of good. The hard working people of this country that voted to leave the EU. Or you are on the side of evil. Gina miller. Goldman Sachs. George Soros. Tony Blair. Judges. And every other establishment figure that are petrified they are about to lose their god given right to be right. And money.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
He has already been thrown under the bus. They leaked the documents. Breaking on Sky.Thor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:44 pm Where does Geoffrey Cox stand on this now? He advised the government that what they were doing and wanted to do was lawful. He's the attorney general for christ's sake.
Looks like he will be launched under the bus, but negating that surely his position is now under jepody and scrutiny.
https://news.sky.com/story/exclusive-pm ... l-11818599
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
The sooner Jacob is thrown under the Bus the better
How can the leader of the House allow unlawful prorogation ?
How can the leader of the House allow unlawful prorogation ?
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It is one thing to make a decision that is later ruled unlawful if one took the best legal advice available.
Boris did not do that and therefore deliberately misled the Queen about the reasons for proroging parliament.
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Quoting what was just stated on bbc news channel , by some prominent tory supporter ( not sure if he is a judge a lord ) whose name escapes me, Johnson needs to rebuild confidence in parliament , to do that Mogg needs to be thrown out as the leader of the house for allowing prorogation , the whip needs to be reinstatedMax B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:01 pmIt is one thing to make a decision that is later ruled unlawful if one took the best legal advice available.
Boris did not do that and therefore deliberately misled the Queen about the reasons for proroging parliament.
to those mps who stood against them & a few other juicy details.
Itll probably be on later news items or indeed in the broads tomorrow
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
Quelle surprise. Max calling out the Tories.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:29 am It's not my style to say it but I told youse it was unlawful.
Quite right too.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:26 pm" If Boris states the election is , say , 15th October "RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:01 pm One other point. If Boris states the election is , say , 15th October then try’s to change that date once Parliament has disbanded for the election, Just get Gina Miller to run back to the courts again. Therefore I don’t see why there should be a hold up to have this next election.
He did and Tory politicians joined other parties in the house & defeated the motion .
Nothing you wrote aftr that means anything.
Yeah, Tory Remainer’s
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
Let’s just hang him for treason and have done with it. Off with his head is another option.
Got me thinking, what is a fitting punishment? Life membership of the Labour Party, a fate worse than death. Our representative in Brussels after Brexit is binned. Perhaps a stint on strictly come dancing. Or one of HM footmen. The mind goes into overdrive.
Got me thinking, what is a fitting punishment? Life membership of the Labour Party, a fate worse than death. Our representative in Brussels after Brexit is binned. Perhaps a stint on strictly come dancing. Or one of HM footmen. The mind goes into overdrive.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
Shame we dont have public stocks anymoredOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:36 pm Let’s just hang him for treason and have done with it. Off with his head is another option.
Got me thinking, what is a fitting punishment? Life membership of the Labour Party, a fate worse than death. Our representative in Brussels after Brexit is binned. Perhaps a stint on strictly come dancing. Or one of HM footmen. The mind goes into overdrive.
Rotten tomatoes eggs flour etc
It would certainly boost supermarket sales
But not for healthy eating.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
YupRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:36 pmtuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:26 pm" If Boris states the election is , say , 15th October "RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:01 pm One other point. If Boris states the election is , say , 15th October then try’s to change that date once Parliament has disbanded for the election, Just get Gina Miller to run back to the courts again. Therefore I don’t see why there should be a hold up to have this next election.
He did and Tory politicians joined other parties in the house & defeated the motion .
Nothing you wrote aftr that means anything.
Yeah, Tory Remainer’s
Tories who didnt lie to the Queen & Break Sovereign Law
Not EU law but British Sovereign law.
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Re: Boris - prorogation unlawful
They have no respect for the British people or it's customs, traditions or laws. Shocking.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:48 pmYup
Tories who didnt lie to the Queen & Break Sovereign Law
Not EU law but British Sovereign law.
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Given that it now appears that there will be a second referendum and the deal will be an amalgum of Mays deal and the Labour position, will the ERG go out and campaign for a Brexit they have dug their heels in against for the last couple of years?
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And he is an unelected pmMax B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:06 pmThey have no respect for the British people or it's customs, traditions or laws. Shocking.
Wasn't brexit about taking control from the unelected
& to protect our Sovereignty & laws ?
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Are you accusing Johnson of hypocrisy?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:28 pmAnd he is an unelected pmMax B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:06 pmThey have no respect for the British people or it's customs, traditions or laws. Shocking.
Wasn't brexit about taking control from the unelected
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Nope im accusing Snowflake leavers of it.Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:31 pmAre you accusing Johnson of hypocrisy?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:28 pmAnd he is an unelected pmMax B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:06 pm
They have no respect for the British people or it's customs, traditions or laws. Shocking.
Wasn't brexit about taking control from the unelected
& to protect our Sovereignty & laws ?
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Fair enough, but why accuse the marionettes and let off the puppetmaster?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:33 pmNope im accusing Snowflake leavers of it.