Older Orient fans

[3GO]

Just want to see Orient do well in the Championship before I die...

[Howling Mad Murdock]

Didn't have Twatter either to moan on.Which was probably a good thing.

[Chief crazy horse]

What we’ve done is move with the times and embraced modern technology and operating practices.

And it’s not just the old who look back at past events, the young do too. It’s just we can look back further.

Great answer

Was just about to say the same. Especially with the second paragraph.

[PoundhillO]

Just want to see Orient do well in the Championship before I die...

Me too, back where I consider we belong, having supported and watched the O’s for over 62 years.

[AckneyAwks]

Have to admit i did send a letter in to a local paper criticising the club. And on another occasion phoned the club and they put me through to George Petchey who i spoke to for around ten minutes. He then invited me to meet him in his office to disscuss my concerns and i must admit he made me feel out of my comfort zone. George Petchey was a good manager for the club and had a eye for young talented footballers. During our best season just missing out on promotion to the old 1st division (Premier) he had us playing one two football. Probably the most entertaining football i have seen at Orient in nearly fifty years. So i have had my moments of complaining but the difference nowadays is many people become brave and think they are entitled to totally abuse people, as if it's their right. And i dont mean just the O's forum.

[greyhound]

you no what I cant remember.

[Hedmans Header]

We wouldn't have been calling for Jimmy Bloomfield to be sacked
after all we were a championship club playing plenty of local derbies
against the likes of Tottenham, West Ham, QPR and Millwall even
winning at Upton Park,The Valley and getting a draw at WHL..
Bloomfield got us to an F A Cup semi final (from his hospital bed),
and only 3 or 4,years earlier we were point away from what would
now be the prem so we were all very happy content fans...

[Disoriented]

Clear ageist thread.

[Fisch]

I was gonna add my tuppence worth..... it'll come to me in a mo......

[Sid Bishop]

Have to admit i did send a letter in to a local paper criticising the club. And on another occasion phoned the club and they put me through to George Petchey who i spoke to for around ten minutes. He then invited me to meet him in his office to disscuss my concerns and i must admit he made me feel out of my comfort zone. George Petchey was a good manager for the club and had a eye for young talented footballers. During our best season just missing out on promotion to the old 1st division (Premier) he had us playing one two football. Probably the most entertaining football i have seen at Orient in nearly fifty years. So i have had my moments of complaining but the difference nowadays is many people become brave and think they are entitled to totally abuse people, as if it's their right. And i dont mean just the O's forum.

We played some fantastic football that season. A few things cost us promotion, a run of bad injuries, the usual bad pitches from around December onward's ( so muddy that with short passes the ball would stop short ) made the Os one and two touch passing style harder to do. Also many feel that dropping Ray Goddard for the newly arrived John Jackson did not help things. John was an amazing keeper for many years, but when he arrived here from Palace, it took him a while to get back to his best form and as I recall, he made a few errors at first which lead to goals being scored against us. These dropped points, due to those various reasons, proved so costly in the final run in as we lost out on the third place promotion spot by just one point to Carlisle, ironically, if we had had just one more point, we would have gone up to Division One instead of Carlisle because of our better goal average !! John Jackson was just one of quite a few other new players who came to us from George Petchey's former club, Crystal Palace.

[tuffers#1]

Have to admit i did send a letter in to a local paper criticising the club. And on another occasion phoned the club and they put me through to George Petchey who i spoke to for around ten minutes. He then invited me to meet him in his office to disscuss my concerns and i must admit he made me feel out of my comfort zone. George Petchey was a good manager for the club and had a eye for young talented footballers. During our best season just missing out on promotion to the old 1st division (Premier) he had us playing one two football. Probably the most entertaining football i have seen at Orient in nearly fifty years. So i have had my moments of complaining but the difference nowadays is many people become brave and think they are entitled to totally abuse people, as if it's their right. And i dont mean just the O's forum.

We played some fantastic football that season. A few things cost us promotion, a run of bad injuries, the usual bad pitches from around December onward's ( so muddy that with short passes the ball would stop short ) made the Os one and two touch passing style harder to do. Also many feel that dropping Ray Goddard for the newly arrived John Jackson did not help things. John was an amazing keeper for many years, but when he arrived here from Palace, it took him a while to get back to his best form and as I recall, he made a few errors at first which lead to goals being scored against us. These dropped points, due to those various reasons, proved so costly in the final run in as we lost out on the third place promotion spot by just one point to Carlisle, ironically, if we had had just one more point, we would have gone up to Division One instead of Carlisle because of our better goal average !! John Jackson was just one of quite a few other new players who came to us from George Petchey's former club, Crystal Palace.

Carlisle did the double over us that season 1-0 defeat at Home 3-0 at Brunton park

[AckneyAwks]

Quiz question. Who was Carlisle left back that season and later joined us as coach. Actually probably the best coach this club ever had. Was on short list when Peter Eustace got the manager job. Big mistake i believe Mr Clark.

[FargO]

To answer the original question - when we lost a few games in the 60's I just sucked it up because that's what Orient did. In the first year I followed the O's we were relegated to div 2. I'm still here though and celebrated my 70th in the hospitality suite at the Maidstone game this year. Never would I dream of telling the owners how to run the club. And if I had wanted to in the (good) old days, I'd have had to put it on a postcard with a tuppeny stamp.

[Red_Army]

To answer the original question - when we lost a few games in the 60's I just sucked it up because that's what Orient did. In the first year I followed the O's we were relegated to div 2. I'm still here though and celebrated my 70th in the hospitality suite at the Maidstone game this year. Never would I dream of telling the owners how to run the club. And if I had wanted to in the (good) old days, I'd have had to put it on a postcard with a tuppeny stamp.

Supporters shouldn't feel like they can't make suggestions to the powers that be- that's how you achieve progress. We shouldn't be so deferential that we don't believe our voice matters- but at the same time abuse or mindless complaining is counter-productive.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Time has moved on. The modern way is social media, getting public opinion in all sorts of ways. Nothing wrong with clubs listening to customers.

No owners = no clubs
No fans = no clubs

So who is to say who’s is the most important. I’m all for fans having input, expressing opinions. Why not. We know how important fans are, just look at the acrobatics clubs go through to sell ST/shirts etc and all this 12th man bullshit. Fans have a right to be heard. Even when some of those opinions may not be liked.

It would be nice for the importance of the fans and their financial contribution to be recognised with a non executive place on the Board plus some funding to cultivate fan feedback.

[banqo]

Quiz question. Who was Carlisle left back that season and later joined us as coach. Actually probably the best coach this club ever had. Was on short list when Peter Eustace got the manager job. Big mistake i believe Mr Clark.

John Gorman?

[OyinbO]

Older people were schooled to believe that things which are written carry authority. Because, 50 years ago, they did. Of course, nowadays any halfwit with a smart phone can go online and share their brainfarts, so the typical piece of writing found online is much much less authoritative than what you would read in a book or a newspaper half a century ago.

Younger people, who have grown up with the www, actually understand this to some degree, and are generally better (though obvs far from perfect) at taking things written online less seriously. Older people haven't quite got the same skills, and haven't been able to adapt to the new reality. Which is why your Mum got woke on Facebook, and why we have Brexit.

You're welcome.

[one o in huntingdon]

I can remember Petchey out chants, joined in that one myself.
One good season, rest were dire full of 0-0 draws

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Older people were schooled to believe that things which are written carry authority. Because, 50 years ago, they did. Of course, nowadays any halfwit with a smart phone can go online and share their brainfarts, so the typical piece of writing found online is much much less authoritative than what you would read in a book or a newspaper half a century ago.

Younger people, who have grown up with the www, actually understand this to some degree, and are generally better (though obvs far from perfect) at taking things written online less seriously. Older people haven't quite got the same skills, and haven't been able to adapt to the new reality. Which is why your Mum got woke on Facebook, and why we have Brexit.

You're welcome.

Some of what you say is absolute nonsense. Older people have gone through a culture of change and adapted to it, not to mention creating a lot of it. The older generation have been a generation of real innovation, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again, just refine. Go look at the history of the mobile phone and internet.

Of course the young generation always believe they know everything and invented things like sex drugs and rock n roll. I did before I grew up and realised our parents weren’t as stupid and not wth it as we believed.

What I do think has changed is the advent of social media. I can recall the new brave world of electronic mail. But the young today adapt to technology far easier but in many cases not able to take it for what it is hence the rise in cyber bullying. So I not too sure all the young can deal with it easier.

Every new generation thinks the older lot are stupid. It’s part of growing up. One day, when older, and people think you are stupid you come to realise this, or should do.

[redintheface]

Have to admit i did send a letter in to a local paper criticising the club. And on another occasion phoned the club and they put me through to George Petchey who i spoke to for around ten minutes. He then invited me to meet him in his office to disscuss my concerns and i must admit he made me feel out of my comfort zone. George Petchey was a good manager for the club and had a eye for young talented footballers. During our best season just missing out on promotion to the old 1st division (Premier) he had us playing one two football. Probably the most entertaining football i have seen at Orient in nearly fifty years. So i have had my moments of complaining but the difference nowadays is many people become brave and think they are entitled to totally abuse people, as if it's their right. And i dont mean just the O's forum.

How right you are!

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Have to admit i did send a letter in to a local paper criticising the club. And on another occasion phoned the club and they put me through to George Petchey who i spoke to for around ten minutes. He then invited me to meet him in his office to disscuss my concerns and i must admit he made me feel out of my comfort zone. George Petchey was a good manager for the club and had a eye for young talented footballers. During our best season just missing out on promotion to the old 1st division (Premier) he had us playing one two football. Probably the most entertaining football i have seen at Orient in nearly fifty years. So i have had my moments of complaining but the difference nowadays is many people become brave and think they are entitled to totally abuse people, as if it's their right. And i dont mean just the O's forum.

How right you are!

Fine line between abuse and opinion. Is suggesting this or that person is wrong for a job because you feel they ain’t up to it abuse or opinion?

People have the option to report what they feel is abuse and the moderators have the option to take action if they agree. What’s wrong with that? There is a process to be used. People should use it or stop moaning. Now am I being abusive or expressing an opinion?

[Sid Bishop]

Older people were schooled to believe that things which are written carry authority. Because, 50 years ago, they did. Of course, nowadays any halfwit with a smart phone can go online and share their brainfarts, so the typical piece of writing found online is much much less authoritative than what you would read in a book or a newspaper half a century ago.

Younger people, who have grown up with the www, actually understand this to some degree, and are generally better (though obvs far from perfect) at taking things written online less seriously. Older people haven't quite got the same skills, and haven't been able to adapt to the new reality. Which is why your Mum got woke on Facebook, and why we have Brexit.

You're welcome.

Some of what you say is absolute nonsense. Older people have gone through a culture of change and adapted to it, not to mention creating a lot of it. The older generation have been a generation of real innovation, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again, just refine. Go look at the history of the mobile phone and internet.

Of course the young generation always believe they know everything and invented things like sex drugs and rock n roll. I did before I grew up and realised our parents weren’t as stupid and not wth it as we believed.

What I do think has changed is the advent of social media. I can recall the new brave world of electronic mail. But the young today adapt to technology far easier but in many cases not able to take it for what it is hence the rise in cyber bullying. So I not too sure all the young can deal with it easier.

Every new generation thinks the older lot are stupid. It’s part of growing up. One day, when older, and people think you are stupid you come to realise this, or should do.

Most of the older generation are also able to do maths in their head without resorting to using a calculator, know more about the history of our country and the World in general, are also far better when it comes to verbal communication. Excessive use of smart phones and social media has a lot to answer for.

[tuffers#1]

I can remember Petchey out chants, joined in that one myself.
One good season, rest were dire full of 0-0 draws

My Dad & His mates used to slaughter Mickey Bullock

BULLOCK YOUR SLOW AD MOLASSES,
QUEEN YA BIG DUFFER

Which i think is a little unfair on MB due to the state of brissy roads pitch back then.
Although it was shouted constantly at selhurst park
against Pompey in the 2nd replay to.


Lets just say if Usain Bolt tried to run a 100 m on that mudbath it would have taken him 20 minutes.

[OyinbO]

Older people were schooled to believe that things which are written carry authority. Because, 50 years ago, they did. Of course, nowadays any halfwit with a smart phone can go online and share their brainfarts, so the typical piece of writing found online is much much less authoritative than what you would read in a book or a newspaper half a century ago.

Younger people, who have grown up with the www, actually understand this to some degree, and are generally better (though obvs far from perfect) at taking things written online less seriously. Older people haven't quite got the same skills, and haven't been able to adapt to the new reality. Which is why your Mum got woke on Facebook, and why we have Brexit.

You're welcome.

Some of what you say is absolute nonsense. Older people have gone through a culture of change and adapted to it, not to mention creating a lot of it. The older generation have been a generation of real innovation, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again, just refine. Go look at the history of the mobile phone and internet.

Of course the young generation always believe they know everything and invented things like sex drugs and rock n roll. I did before I grew up and realised our parents weren’t as stupid and not wth it as we believed.

What I do think has changed is the advent of social media. I can recall the new brave world of electronic mail. But the young today adapt to technology far easier but in many cases not able to take it for what it is hence the rise in cyber bullying. So I not too sure all the young can deal with it easier.

Every new generation thinks the older lot are stupid. It’s part of growing up. One day, when older, and people think you are stupid you come to realise this, or should do.

Allow me to pick out a couple of bits of that.

Older people have gone through a culture of change and adapted to it

The older generation have been a generation of real innovation, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again, just refine.

You seem to be saying that your generation were revolutionaries, and those that follow can't come close to matching it's achievements. With respect Sir, that is cobblers. The rate of change in the world is quite clearly *increasing* - I'm not arguing that this is necessarily good, but it's palpably happening. That's why we have Brexit, Trump etc, and the conservative backlash across the developed, white, ageing, Western world. We are struggling to cope with it, and your apparent declaration that progress is grinding to a halt is further evidence of that.

The reality is that progress is accelerating, and spinning out of our control.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Older people were schooled to believe that things which are written carry authority. Because, 50 years ago, they did. Of course, nowadays any halfwit with a smart phone can go online and share their brainfarts, so the typical piece of writing found online is much much less authoritative than what you would read in a book or a newspaper half a century ago.

Younger people, who have grown up with the www, actually understand this to some degree, and are generally better (though obvs far from perfect) at taking things written online less seriously. Older people haven't quite got the same skills, and haven't been able to adapt to the new reality. Which is why your Mum got woke on Facebook, and why we have Brexit.

You're welcome.

Some of what you say is absolute nonsense. Older people have gone through a culture of change and adapted to it, not to mention creating a lot of it. The older generation have been a generation of real innovation, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again, just refine. Go look at the history of the mobile phone and internet.

Of course the young generation always believe they know everything and invented things like sex drugs and rock n roll. I did before I grew up and realised our parents weren’t as stupid and not wth it as we believed.

What I do think has changed is the advent of social media. I can recall the new brave world of electronic mail. But the young today adapt to technology far easier but in many cases not able to take it for what it is hence the rise in cyber bullying. So I not too sure all the young can deal with it easier.

Every new generation thinks the older lot are stupid. It’s part of growing up. One day, when older, and people think you are stupid you come to realise this, or should do.

Most of the older generation are also able to do maths in their head without resorting to using a calculator, know more about the history of our country and the World in general, are also far better when it comes to verbal communication. Excessive use of smart phones and social media has a lot to answer for.

To be fair Sid I often resorted to a slide rule and log tables.