Crewe (H) Match / Exiles Thread

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Still happy enough for RE to be given longer, but do feel that we're an experienced manager away from being a decent team at this level. Just need more organisation and direction to our play, we have the players to do alright.

Someone who can have a similar impact to JE when he came in, immediately brought some structure to our play and made us solid as a unit, players understanding their roles etc.

Our players are definitely goood enough to cope at this level. Not promotion but mid table. We don’t lack the players but we do lack the organisation. I sometimes wonder if the players know their roles. All too often like a bunch of players who have just met up. Disjointed, disorganised.

The board talk about improving the match day experience. It’s gonna take more than a burger van people. The matchday experience is all about what happens on the field.

Individual players might be good enough, but what about the collective team and skillsets?

For example, we don't have a huge amount of pace, are not massively mobile, do not have much creativity and incision and distribution from the back and middle is generally poor (particularly the former). So while individual players may be "good enough" in isolation, put them into the same team and you can see why things are not working out great at a higher level.

We are very pacy and mobile with Angol, JMD, Dennis and/or Brophy up top.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Our players are definitely goood enough to cope at this level. Not promotion but mid table. We don’t lack the players but we do lack the organisation. I sometimes wonder if the players know their roles. All too often like a bunch of players who have just met up. Disjointed, disorganised.

The board talk about improving the match day experience. It’s gonna take more than a burger van people. The matchday experience is all about what happens on the field.

Individual players might be good enough, but what about the collective team and skillsets?

For example, we don't have a huge amount of pace, are not massively mobile, do not have much creativity and incision and distribution from the back and middle is generally poor (particularly the former). So while individual players may be "good enough" in isolation, put them into the same team and you can see why things are not working out great at a higher level.

We are very pacy and mobile with Angol, JMD, Dennis and/or Brophy up top.

True. But what about when those four are not in the team? Or pace of those further back, i.e. defenders/centre mid? Or when the poor distribution further back means they don't get to utilise their pace effectively?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Yes, I accept that if our 4 pacy players are not playing, then we don’t have a lot of pace. But seriously?

I think our defence is ok. It’s just our midfield that’s the issue. Again.

[Eat The Rich]

I totally blame Ross for that defeat tonight . That's another game we shouldn't have lost but did thanks to his tactical inexperience . Why take off Gorman and Dennis . As soon as those two went off the game changed in Crewe's favour . Yet another reason proven tonight why we need to bring in an experienced manager . The team was doing fine yet Ross seems to make substitutions just for the sake of it . The team was doing fine , just leave things alone . A word about Dale Gorman. I've been one of his biggest critics but tonight he played the best I've ever seen him play for us . I thought he was outstanding tonight . Our problems really started when he came off because that invited Crewe onto us . Well done Dale , just carry on playing like that and you'll be just fine . On Saturday , Dale and Louis has to stay on for the full 90 minutes unless injured . Ross should only change the team if we're losing , not while it's doing good .

I think a lot of Gorman's improvement can be attributed to Marsh's presence in the side. He gives midfield a real platform. Gorman can make those forward runs safe in the knowledge that he's got cover behind him.

[essexfootball]

I thought the same thing happened as Saturday, took off a dribbler, ie a Dennis, someone who will get you 20 yards up the pitch, win a free kick, bit of pace, relieve the pressure, for basically a target man, there is a time and place for a target man but to me these subs last two games have made it easier for the opposition, as Dennis can run, get in behind etc, you know Harrolld. Wilkinson and co are bigger men, more static, you can give them a few yards leeway. There needs to be a pacey player on the bench, to stretch teams last 20, you put them on the defenders can't push forward as much and if they do they leave tons of space for someone who can potentially exploit itt

[Bergen]

Just seen the replay of the JMD penalty...Looks even worse

Straight out of the David Mooney "how to miss a penalty" reference manual

Not sure if he has ever scored from the penalty spot in his career. Don`t think so.

[RientO]

When Lincoln and Danny Cowley got promoted from the NL two years ago, they had 12 pts after nine games. We have 9 pts. after nine games.

No need to panic.

Agree. I thought getting anything out of last three games would be good and but for a couple of late goals,, it may have been 4 points from 3 sides in the top 4.

Season gets going from here on in. Orient have to start winning at home (haven't won at home since opener and lost last three). Port Vale, Walsall and Carlisle are the games which will give a good indication where the Os are currently at. If Os lose all of those then there will be panic...

[Max B Gold]

When Lincoln and Danny Cowley got promoted from the NL two years ago, they had 12 pts after nine games. We have 9 pts. after nine games.

No need to panic.

Agree. I thought getting anything out of last three games would be good and but for a couple of late goals,, it may have been 4 points from 3 sides in the top 4.

Season gets going from here on in. Orient have to start winning at home (haven't won at home since opener and lost last three). Port Vale, Walsall and Carlisle are the games which will give a good indication where the Os are currently at. If Os lose all of those then there will be panic...

Lose those three and its welcome back to the National League for us.

[RedDwarf 1881]

I totally blame Ross for that defeat tonight . That's another game we shouldn't have lost but did thanks to his tactical inexperience . Why take off Gorman and Dennis . As soon as those two went off the game changed in Crewe's favour . Yet another proven reason tonight why we need to bring in an experienced manager . The team was doing fine yet Ross seems to make substitutions just for the sake of it . The team was doing fine , just leave things alone . A word about Dale Gorman. I've been one of his biggest critics but tonight he played the best I've ever seen him play for us . I thought he was outstanding tonight . Our problems really started when he came off because that invited Crewe onto us . Well done Dale , just carry on playing like that and you'll be just fine . On Saturday , Dale and Louis has to stay on for the full 90 minutes unless injured . Ross should only change the team if we're losing , not while it's doing good .

[RedDwarf 1881]

When Lincoln and Danny Cowley got promoted from the NL two years ago, they had 12 pts after nine games. We have 9 pts. after nine games.

No need to panic.

Agree. I thought getting anything out of last three games would be good and but for a couple of late goals,, it may have been 4 points from 3 sides in the top 4.

Season gets going from here on in. Orient have to start winning at home (haven't won at home since opener and lost last three). Port Vale, Walsall and Carlisle are the games which will give a good indication where the Os are currently at. If Os lose all of those then there will be panic...

Lose those three at its welcome back to the National League for us.

Even if it's only one club to go down this season we're going to be battling to avoid the drop . Make no mistake we're heading for trouble .We actually played quite well last night until Ross made the substitutions which gave Crewe the upper hand .

[Max B Gold]

Agree. I thought getting anything out of last three games would be good and but for a couple of late goals,, it may have been 4 points from 3 sides in the top 4.

Season gets going from here on in. Orient have to start winning at home (haven't won at home since opener and lost last three). Port Vale, Walsall and Carlisle are the games which will give a good indication where the Os are currently at. If Os lose all of those then there will be panic...

Lose those three at its welcome back to the National League for us.

Even if it's only one club to go down this season we're going to be battling to avoid the drop . Make no mistake we're heading for trouble .We actually played quite well last night until Ross made the substitutions which gave Crewe the upper hand .

Maybe he's missing the NL and wants to do everything possible to get us back there.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Lose those three at its welcome back to the National League for us.

Even if it's only one club to go down this season we're going to be battling to avoid the drop . Make no mistake we're heading for trouble .We actually played quite well last night until Ross made the substitutions which gave Crewe the upper hand .

Maybe he's missing the NL and wants to do everything possible to get us back there.

As soon as Ross made the substitutions last night we were on the back foot .

[Max B Gold]

Even if it's only one club to go down this season we're going to be battling to avoid the drop . Make no mistake we're heading for trouble .We actually played quite well last night until Ross made the substitutions which gave Crewe the upper hand .

Maybe he's missing the NL and wants to do everything possible to get us back there.

As soon as Ross made the substitutions last night we were on the back foot .

I haven't said anything so far about the suitability of Ross as manager but on hearing of his appointment I thought it was a risky decision.

That is because this was a crucial 1st season back in Div4 and not the right time for a new manager to learn his trade. Given what happened with Justin this point became even more important.

I suspect that if things don't improve then a decision will be required by the end of October.

[Chief crazy horse]

But it was because of Justin's passing that no doubt the club thought it inappropriate to bring in an outsider as manager at such a time.

[Surreyclive]

Defence is the big issue. Their guy glided past Ling and crossed the ball to create the winner. Only one team-Scunthorpe has let in more goals than we have. Says it all.

[Chief crazy horse]

Yes, it is. When a team as a whole has problems the first place to address is the defence. This gives the whole team a stabilising effect if you are solid at the back. This we certainly are not, and it doesn't help when we can't decide whether we play two or three central defenders. We are uncertain at the back, with no real authority, no solidity and it shows. This is the first thing we need to get sorted.
There,that's my say!

[RedDwarf 1881]

Our players are definitely goood enough to cope at this level. Not promotion but mid table. We don’t lack the players but we do lack the organisation. I sometimes wonder if the players know their roles. All too often like a bunch of players who have just met up. Disjointed, disorganised.

The board talk about improving the match day experience. It’s gonna take more than a burger van people. The matchday experience is all about what happens on the field.

Individual players might be good enough, but what about the collective team and skillsets?

For example, we don't have a huge amount of pace, are not massively mobile, do not have much creativity and incision and distribution from the back and middle is generally poor (particularly the former). So while individual players may be "good enough" in isolation, put them into the same team and you can see why things are not working out great at a higher level.

We are very pacy and mobile with Angol, JMD, Dennis and/or Brophy up top.

The real problem is becoming our defence and poor tactics by Ross.

[Howling Mad Murdock]

Defence is the big issue. Their guy glided past Ling and crossed the ball to create the winner. Only one team-Scunthorpe has let in more goals than we have. Says it all.

Thing with Scunthorpe is they have picked up 4 points from the last two games and kept a clean sheet.

Now Stevenage are bottom.A team we couldn't beat.