Exeter Whingers v The Mighty O's Brief Highlights

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Re: Exeter Whingers v The Mighty O's Brief Highlights

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Chief crazy horse wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:27 am
BIGRON wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:47 am Coulson seems to becoming a liability , as good as he was last season he seems a yard slower in this higher division and i feel he has cost us 2 or 3 conceded goals 🤔.
True. He has become a bit of a plodder, I'm afraid.
Perhaps that is why Cambridge got rid of him, he was quite a popular player there at one time.
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RedO wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:00 am The persistent theme is a lack of pressure on the ball.

The first clip, Wright wins the header in the six yard box and the ball gets hooked out to the wing. No one else goes out to the player, Wright himself has to head out there.

Their first goal, no one is anywhere near the crosser again. JMD doesn’t want it enough and gets beaten to the ball. The shot isn’t great but Brill isn’t agile enough to dive anymore.

The second goal, Wilkinson isn’t pressing the ball enough. He’s fresh so has no excuse of being tired, he needs to be working harder. If we still had Bonne, that ball isn’t played down the line, it would have gone back to the keeper.

Bit of luck in both goals for sure but Angol is class in both of them.
''The persistent theme is a lack of pressure on the ball.'' That is it in a nutshell !
Comments on Wilkinson, quite correct, big improvement needed. Angol is really classy, would have been nice to see him and Bonne play together but it was not to be !!
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Re: Exeter Whingers v The Mighty O's Brief Highlights

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Lovejoy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:33 am
Chief crazy horse wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:27 am
BIGRON wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:47 am Coulson seems to becoming a liability , as good as he was last season he seems a yard slower in this higher division and i feel he has cost us 2 or 3 conceded goals 🤔.
True. He has become a bit of a plodder, I'm afraid.
Perhaps that is why Cambridge got rid of him, he was quite a popular player there at one time.
Very popular and also younger, faster and more mobile a few years ago.
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Re: Exeter Whingers v The Mighty O's Brief Highlights

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RedO wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:48 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:03 pm
Tom Chance wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:32 pm But why did Josh even give the ref the opportunity to give a pen. The player was on the edge of the box and others were back too.
This. Daft from Coulson trying to tackle a man from behind in the box in the 93rd minute. He wasn't scoring from there and we had enough bodies back to defend the ball across.

For me it's a pen - there's contact and he hasn't played the ball. But as you say he shouldn't have given the ref the opportunity in that situation.
He was definitely in with a chance of scoring there. Coulson had to try and win the ball, his mistake was getting turned in the first place.

But the main problem is not defending from the front. Their centre half has all the time in the world to put a decent ball into the channel to stretch Josh. If Bonne was with us, that ball doesn’t get played in like that.
Really? I know it's Brill in goal but come on, he'd have had to produce a worldie from that angle. Agree with your other points though.

Agree with the comments about the first goal too. Ling rightfully goes with his man inside, Ekpiteta comes out to track the man out wide but then just jogs back into the middle and leaves him completely free, not telling anyone else to pick him up - naive from him. But we still had opportunities to clear the ball after that and failed.
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Maybe the captaincy is too much of a weight on him. It does affect certain players negatively.
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Chief crazy horse wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:27 am
BIGRON wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:47 am Coulson seems to becoming a liability , as good as he was last season he seems a yard slower in this higher division and i feel he has cost us 2 or 3 conceded goals 🤔.
True. He has become a bit of a plodder, I'm afraid.
Hasn’t started well. Is he now being seen in the same light as Brill?
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Millennial Snowflake wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:52 am
RedO wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:48 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:03 pm

This. Daft from Coulson trying to tackle a man from behind in the box in the 93rd minute. He wasn't scoring from there and we had enough bodies back to defend the ball across.

For me it's a pen - there's contact and he hasn't played the ball. But as you say he shouldn't have given the ref the opportunity in that situation.
He was definitely in with a chance of scoring there. Coulson had to try and win the ball, his mistake was getting turned in the first place.

But the main problem is not defending from the front. Their centre half has all the time in the world to put a decent ball into the channel to stretch Josh. If Bonne was with us, that ball doesn’t get played in like that.
Really? I know it's Brill in goal but come on, he'd have had to produce a worldie from that angle. Agree with your other points though.

Agree with the comments about the first goal too. Ling rightfully goes with his man inside, Ekpiteta comes out to track the man out wide but then just jogs back into the middle and leaves him completely free, not telling anyone else to pick him up - naive from him. But we still had opportunities to clear the ball after that and failed.
It’s amazing how many world class strikes are coming in against us this season that Brill hasn’t got a chance of saving. You’d never think we were facing Division 4 standard players.

I guess if you had it in for Ling, you could argue he should have showed his man down the line rather than let him come inside into the danger zone.....
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Post by RicketyCricket »

Think the player just in front of Brill unsights him a bit, but agree that he lacks mobility.

Why does Coulson drop to his knees though? Not very captain-like. Terrible to give away the penalty in that manner too, we'll hopefully see a Happe/Ekpetita partnership soon.
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Tend to agree about Coulson. He seems well off the pace at times, and im beginning to think maybe he's a good NL centre back, but not quite up to scratch in League 2, which is definitely a lot higher quality
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Nice hold up play for the second goal from Angol and a nice overlap from Widdowson which allowed Dennis to cut inside and shoot. Okay, the shot took a deflection but you make your own luck sometimes. These things tend to even themselves up over the course of a season.

Think back to the Mansfield game when we were 2 down at half time and they were top of the league. We went on to win the game and since then Mansfield have manged only 2 points from a possible 12. It's a funny old game as they say.
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UpminsterO wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:37 am I am all for all fans having a view on a player but some of the comments on this thread are so subjective and written as if a players ability and career is there for each and every fan to strip raw.

Then one considers the total lack of genuine football tactical knowledge any of us really have which reduces the subjective comments to a trash level

Some people here talk with such confidence unaware of their own football lack of knowledge and it decends into utter carnage of a players career

It's a free world but hey think first to the big picture this is div 4 and all the players try their very best I am convinced
Oh get over yourself, this is a message board where the sole purpose is to discuss our opinions on Orient.

It's not that hard to understand is it? I'm sure the players appreciate their white knight standing up them though, all fragile as they are.
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The first goal I’d down to a lack of communication from ME to SL. If ME is handing the player over he needs to tell SL whose body language shows nothing was said to him. Also ME does not show body language that anything is being said to SL.

Therefore it’s a bit harsh to blame SL.
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Thor wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:28 pm The first goal I’d down to a lack of communication from ME to SL. If ME is handing the player over he needs to tell SL whose body language shows nothing was said to him. Also ME does not show body language that anything is being said to SL.

Therefore it’s a bit harsh to blame SL.
Definitely that.

But some would say Lig is to blame for not showing him the line.
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Stowaway wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:03 pm Penalty, my arse. FFS.
Sometimes those are given, sometimes not and sometimes the forward is booked for diving. That's footy for you.
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Apple Wumble wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:55 pm
UpminsterO wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:37 am I am all for all fans having a view on a player but some of the comments on this thread are so subjective and written as if a players ability and career is there for each and every fan to strip raw.

Then one considers the total lack of genuine football tactical knowledge any of us really have which reduces the subjective comments to a trash level

Some people here talk with such confidence unaware of their own football lack of knowledge and it decends into utter carnage of a players career

It's a free world but hey think first to the big picture this is div 4 and all the players try their very best I am convinced
Oh get over yourself, this is a message board where the sole purpose is to discuss our opinions on Orient.

It's not that hard to understand is it? I'm sure the players appreciate their white knight standing up them though, all fragile as they are.
Haven't you got a podcast where you can do that ? I'm sure there must at least half a dozen fans out there with data to burn & listen.
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O my gawd wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:23 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:55 pm
UpminsterO wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:37 am I am all for all fans having a view on a player but some of the comments on this thread are so subjective and written as if a players ability and career is there for each and every fan to strip raw.

Then one considers the total lack of genuine football tactical knowledge any of us really have which reduces the subjective comments to a trash level

Some people here talk with such confidence unaware of their own football lack of knowledge and it decends into utter carnage of a players career

It's a free world but hey think first to the big picture this is div 4 and all the players try their very best I am convinced
Oh get over yourself, this is a message board where the sole purpose is to discuss our opinions on Orient.

It's not that hard to understand is it? I'm sure the players appreciate their white knight standing up them though, all fragile as they are.
Haven't you got a podcast where you can do that ? I'm sure there must at least half a dozen fans out there with data to burn & listen.
Surprising you’ve replied.

Half a dozen more people than want to listen to you. Maybe you should get a hobby too? :)
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EliotNes wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:02 pm
Stowaway wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:03 pm Penalty, my arse. FFS.
Sometimes those are given, sometimes not and sometimes the forward is booked for diving. That's footy for you.
That’s a pen 10 times out of 10.
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RedO wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:55 pm
EliotNes wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:02 pm
Stowaway wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:03 pm Penalty, my arse. FFS.
Sometimes those are given, sometimes not and sometimes the forward is booked for diving. That's footy for you.
That’s a pen 10 times out of 10.
Not the eleventh time you see it though.
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UpminsterO wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:20 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:44 pm
O my gawd wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:23 pm

Haven't you got a podcast where you can do that ? I'm sure there must at least half a dozen fans out there with data to burn & listen.
Surprising you’ve replied.

Half a dozen more people than want to listen to you. Maybe you should get a hobby too? :)

There is a massive difference between a opinion as a genuine fan and crap uneducated personal subjective rudeness directed to a player particularly when the subjective comments are based on utter rubbish because that "fan" has limited football intelligence and more than likely was useless at football themselves and / or cannot comprehend the dynamics of playing a competive sport
So, none of us can have an opinion? 🤔
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Can everyone submit their football credentials to admin before posting again? Need to know the level of football you’ve played at, how many games you’ve been to and any coaching badges you’ve gained. Ta.
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Apple Wumble wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:17 pm Can everyone submit their football credentials to admin before posting again? Need to know the level of football you’ve played at, how many games you’ve been to and any coaching badges you’ve gained. Ta.
Next time I watch 90 minutes of absolute guff I’ll remind myself of my limited football credentials and just accept what Ive really seen was a performance of extreme quality.
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Dear me ,
There ia an awful lot of dissection on these threads lately.

Im suprised we havent been discussing the laces of some boots compared to others
Or indeed if polyester makes some players loose more fluid than others .

We play a simple game 11 v 11

Sometimes we win sometimes we lose .

The Expertise & analysis needs to be left to the tv Hansens &
Shearers of the world.
Its not enjoyable , listening to some smarty ars* 's

If a team is 10 games 10 defeats in, it can be assesed that
A the team is sh*te or
B the manager is sh*te &

Doesnt get the best

Or

10 games 10 wins

A everyone is brilliant ( wahey).

Us, we are in the middle at the moment
Were not brilliant but were certainly not sh*te.
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I enjoy analysing games. We’ve moved on from pundits and some fans stating the obvious. There’s a good chance I’m wrong lost of the time but it’s a bit dull to post on here ‘we are good’ or ‘we are bad’ rather than analysing formations, tactics, certain players, positioning, etc...

It may not be everyone’s cup of tea but get worn out arguing with people on here who deem that anything that doesn’t fit into a football conversation from 1982 means I’m booking in my coaching badges.
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Post by Ronnie Hotdogs »

Disoriented wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:26 pm
UpminsterO wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:20 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:44 pm
Surprising you’ve replied.

Half a dozen more people than want to listen to you. Maybe you should get a hobby too? :)

There is a massive difference between a opinion as a genuine fan and crap uneducated personal subjective rudeness directed to a player particularly when the subjective comments are based on utter rubbish because that "fan" has limited football intelligence and more than likely was useless at football themselves and / or cannot comprehend the dynamics of playing a competive sport
So, none of us can have an opinion? 🤔
Have you ever played professional football? If not, no.
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