And more likely to go back after 6 months.Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 amNever going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:49 amYes they will take these jobs if the terms and conditions are acceptable.one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:23 am
Very true plus the people who complain don't want to do the alleged taken jobs.
Will those unemployed people who voted leave take up the vacated positions?
I see no value paying benefits if for instance spuds need harvesting for a living wage.
Not proposing exploiting those workers, but its unskilled work suitable for most fit people
The jobs were there long before Blair gave in to uncontrolled immigration.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
so it begins Brexit
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So, at the end of the day, you don't care about the economy, or Britain's standing in the world. You just want to hear less people talking in foreign.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:30 amAnd more likely to go back after 6 months.Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 amNever going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
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I think you just nailed itReal Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:38 amSo, at the end of the day, you don't care about the economy, or Britain's standing in the world. You just want to hear less people talking in foreign.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:30 amAnd more likely to go back after 6 months.Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 am
Never going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
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Stop playing this race card Big Al.Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:38 amSo, at the end of the day, you don't care about the economy, or Britain's standing in the world. You just want to hear less people talking in foreign.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:30 amAnd more likely to go back after 6 months.Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 am
Never going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
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Yes you are right, no they won't do those jobs! I should have said about other less arduous jobs with less hours that don't pay well.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:43 amWhat rubbish.whittle81 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:14 amSome of the jobs are filled by retired people who have a company pension, or even olders ones who have there state pension as well, as they can afford to work for £9 an hour only.Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:51 pm What nonsense.
There are loads of British people who will do these jobs but not on the terms and conditions on offer.
When you see jobs advertised at £9 an hour for a 12 hour night shift someone must be doing it. These jobs used to be a premium rate 15 years ago because no one would do them otherwise. It’s all down to supply and demand, we don’t need warehouse workers from abroad so that companies can pay peanuts.
Have you seen an Amazon warehouse?
Blimey, it’s hard to get a job now if you’re 50.
What pensioner is going to work a 12 hour night shift, and more importantly who would employ them.
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You're probably right, won't happen. But do you agree with it?Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 amNever going to happen. It didn't happen before EU immigration either.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:49 amYes they will take these jobs if the terms and conditions are acceptable.one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:23 am
Very true plus the people who complain don't want to do the alleged taken jobs.
Will those unemployed people who voted leave take up the vacated positions?
I see no value paying benefits if for instance spuds need harvesting for a living wage.
Not proposing exploiting those workers, but its unskilled work suitable for most fit people
The jobs were there long before Blair gave in to uncontrolled immigration.
Instead we'll have to go back to an equivalent of the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme (SAWS) we had before. So, we'll have the same number of migrants here, it's just that they are more likely to be from outside the EU, so more prone to exploitation and then staying illegally.
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Yes, your attitude is indeed surly.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour ... 00788.html
slowly but surly the tide is turning.
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Good.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour ... 00788.html
slowly but surly the tide is turning.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
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People change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 amGood.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour ... 00788.html
slowly but surly the tide is turning.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
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probably on par with yours.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:36 amYes, your attitude is indeed surly.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour ... 00788.html
slowly but surly the tide is turning.
nah maybe not.
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You mean the one JC bottled out of.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 amPeople change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 amGood.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour ... 00788.html
slowly but surly the tide is turning.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
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What bottling?Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:48 amYou mean the one JC bottled out of.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 amPeople change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.
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My disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:47 amprobably on par with yours.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:36 amYes, your attitude is indeed surly.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour ... 00788.html
slowly but surly the tide is turning.
nah maybe not.
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us Brexiteers are as calm as a sunny day.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 amMy disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.
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Maybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
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Yes, they can change their minds but usually not until the original vote is enacted upon .Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 amPeople change their minds fella. That is why we have elections.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:38 amGood.greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:18 am https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour ... 00788.html
slowly but surly the tide is turning.
At last, someone in Labour who wants to support the referendum result.
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greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:03 pmus Brexiteers are as calm as a sunny day.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 amMy disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.
we just know we are going to blow you away.![]()
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I've heard this said before. Who, exactly are these unelected bureaucrats? After all we had recent European elections to elect the parliament.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pmMaybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
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It’s all a nonsense so either the Brexiteers trotting out this bowlocks are either too thick to see that, or just as big a liars as Farrago, Johnson and co.Real Al wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:17 pmI've heard this said before. Who, exactly are these unelected bureaucrats? After all we had recent European elections to elect the parliament.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pmMaybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
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Those that are lonely or bored with retirement or didn't want to leave work in the first place. Fortunately I do not suffer from any of those. I love my retirement. Just wish my body felt the same way.Byways1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:43 amWhat rubbish.whittle81 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:14 amSome of the jobs are filled by retired people who have a company pension, or even olders ones who have there state pension as well, as they can afford to work for £9 an hour only.Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:51 pm What nonsense.
There are loads of British people who will do these jobs but not on the terms and conditions on offer.
When you see jobs advertised at £9 an hour for a 12 hour night shift someone must be doing it. These jobs used to be a premium rate 15 years ago because no one would do them otherwise. It’s all down to supply and demand, we don’t need warehouse workers from abroad so that companies can pay peanuts.
Have you seen an Amazon warehouse?
Blimey, it’s hard to get a job now if you’re 50.
What pensioner is going to work a 12 hour night shift, and more importantly who would employ them.
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Well the Far right have already blown a Left wing mp away ( rip Jo cox ) now they are threatening all remainers while they jump around like lunatics if a milkshake gets lobbed claiming foul play .greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:03 pmus Brexiteers are as calm as a sunny day.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 amMy disposition is sunny. Yours, like most desperate Brexiteers, is rainy with lots of wind.
we just no we are going to blow you away.![]()
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There was no groundswell of support asking for Brexit before Cameron f*cked up and called the referendum to settle Tory squabbling. Less than 10%, I read in another article. He ran away when he should have been leading a coalition across all parties to see how they could manage Brexit to get the best deal that would be acceptable for all sides and less damaging impact. The result was always going to be decisive. Nobody expected Brexit would have received a majority. Many people voted to give Cameron and the Tories a kicking. Boris is finding out that the Tories and him in particular isn't very popular in many parts of th e country and especially in the North. Funny, how Liverpool boycott that rag "The Sun" and Liverpool is less Brexity than many neighbouring constituencies.
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What ‘ruling’ have they done? You’re living in a xenophobic fantasy land.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pmMaybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
Name one negative way the EU have impacted on us.
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Mass uncontrolled imagination, driving down wages terms and conditions.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:18 amWhat ‘ruling’ have they done? You’re living in a xenophobic fantasy land.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pmMaybe some of the working class don't want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats from their ivory towers in Brussels .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:09 pm I find it horrifying, that ordinary working class people, want to be ruled by extreme right wing types, just to secure Brexit, without , it seems, even considering the ramifications it would bring. This is so similar to the Nazis gaining power in Germany in 1933.
Youll be so sorry one day, if these monsters do really take power
Name one negative way the EU have impacted on us.
People sleeping in tents because they have nowhere to live and idiots like you want to let more in.