Gove, who was forced to correct his own evidence to the Select Committee after initially claiming the phrase 'base case' wasn't actually included in the report? Righto.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am
Only repeating what I heard Gove say on the radio . It’s the absolute worst case scenario. It’s not going to happen. That’s what I love about you Remainer’s , you love a bit of hysteria.
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Can't believe RedDwarf (who seems a fairly affable chap away from Brexit) is happy to rely on the word of Michael Gove. Bit like leaving yer chickens with Colonel Sanders if you ask me.....
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Those 650 odd arseholes in Westminster are to blame along with Cameron. They voted to have a referendum & voted to trigger Article 50.
Cameron should have at least have a contingency plan should the result go the way it did. Just another case how Westminster fail to judge public opinion & they are still doing it now trying to put obstacles in the way.
Cameron should have at least have a contingency plan should the result go the way it did. Just another case how Westminster fail to judge public opinion & they are still doing it now trying to put obstacles in the way.
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I hear what you say Mikero but I don't think the abuse or resentment will die down even if we do leave. The leavers will be happy, at least initially, but half the Country (give or take) will still be heavily pissed off. If things then get really bad then the remain voters will get even more incensed. I'm not saying you're wrong as I don't have a crystal ball but I'd still be voting remain. I wish your scenario about the Tories was right but you only have to read this board to realise that so many Tory voters are so intransigent in their beliefs that they'll never change allegiance no matter what Boris does. I hope I'm wrong about that though!Mikero wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 pm I too will vote to leave having voted to remain, but for different reasons. There will be no peace in this country unless we leave, all the abuse will die down when it become obvious that we have many years of problems before the economy gets back on its feet. Like austerity we will never get back to where we were at the beginning, but the one saving grace is that the architects of the whole mess will be found to be a bunch of charletons and a Tory party will not be in government again for a hundred years.
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.......and if the result went in favour of us remaining would the EU say ok you can stay and on the same terms as we were before all the shenanegans? I don't think so!!!



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They wouldn't have any choice. If the UK revokes A50 as a result of a Ref2 (I'm not saying it should or will happen, but if it does), then we revert exactly to the position before all this nonsense. Veto, rebate, the lot - and there's nothing the EU can do about it.
We'd still look a right bunch of dicks, mind.
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I just cannot understand, that people still want to go through this Breixit nonsense, when its going to cause chaos amongst our people.
People will die for certain, particularly through medicine shortages. the government have been stockpiling bodybags, so they expect more deaths.
Lets hope it isnt the leavers on heres mother, or father or child etc.
This would be the most stupid act of self harm a country has ever inflicted on itself
The lunatics are running the asylum
People will die for certain, particularly through medicine shortages. the government have been stockpiling bodybags, so they expect more deaths.
Lets hope it isnt the leavers on heres mother, or father or child etc.
This would be the most stupid act of self harm a country has ever inflicted on itself
The lunatics are running the asylum
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No it isn't. There is a mention that severe traffic issues through the channel may last up to 6 months. That is an estimate only and is not even the worst case scenario. The other negative impacts of a No Deal scenario are not time defined at all. They could go on for much, much longer so your premise of coming "out of the woods" after 6 months is, quite frankly, bunkum.
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I hope nobody suffers due to shortage of medication. The politicians who voted down Mays deal will have blood on their hands.
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Only 1 point i would correct you on , that the 53 SNP members of parliament voted against the Referendum act , so really they cant be held responsible.O my gawd wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:27 pm Those 650 odd arseholes in Westminster are to blame along with Cameron. They voted to have a referendum & voted to trigger Article 50.
Cameron should have at least have a contingency plan should the result go the way it did. Just another case how Westminster fail to judge public opinion & they are still doing it now trying to put obstacles in the way.
There position has never changed.
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I wonder whether May should have attempted to gain some sort of cross-party consensus as to what the UK wanted, prior to setting out her red lines and excluding all other parties (and many of her own people) from the negotiations.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:15 pm I hope nobody suffers due to shortage of medication. The politicians who voted down Mays deal will have blood on their hands.
If anyone suffers because of a no-deal exit, it'll be 100% in the fault of those who push for a no-deal exit.
Funnily enough, Johnson's tactics of prerogation, lying, dirty tricks and (perhaps) refusing to obey the rule of law, in order to get no-deal through, will rather give the lie to any attempt to blame the foreigns, or remoaners, or anyone else who doesn't believe enough, for any eventual repercussions of a no-deal Brexit. He's doing so much, and trying so hard, for it, that he can't possibly shift the blame if it happens.
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Good to see you have taken a measured view.O my gawd wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:37 pmI think you could be right. Knowing what I know now, & seeing how disgraceful Tusk, Barnier & Guy Verwotshisname have acted & how treacherous & disloyal our Remainer MP's have acted & seeing after 3 & a half years of political unrest the fact out Country & Economy is still surviving. I will change my mind & vote leave, after I voted to Remain in 2016.
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So basically you voted remain, you know remaining is the sensible thing to do and to do otherwise will cause immeasurable damage but if there's another vote you'll vote to leave because otherwise some people will be cross? Marvellous.Mikero wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 pm I too will vote to leave having voted to remain, but for different reasons. There will be no peace in this country unless we leave, all the abuse will die down when it become obvious that we have many years of problems before the economy gets back on its feet. Like austerity we will never get back to where we were at the beginning, but the one saving grace is that the architects of the whole mess will be found to be a bunch of charletons and a Tory party will not be in government again for a hundred years.
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Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:00 pmSo basically you voted remain, you know remaining is the sensible thing to do and to do otherwise will cause immeasurable damage but if there's another vote you'll vote to leave because otherwise some people will be cross? Marvellous.Mikero wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 pm I too will vote to leave having voted to remain, but for different reasons. There will be no peace in this country unless we leave, all the abuse will die down when it become obvious that we have many years of problems before the economy gets back on its feet. Like austerity we will never get back to where we were at the beginning, but the one saving grace is that the architects of the whole mess will be found to be a bunch of charletons and a Tory party will not be in government again for a hundred years.
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worrying times Joe people are changing to leave as expected.