The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
A strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 am Johnsons a wrong un alright....
According to the papers today, Ian Duncan Smith is encouraging johnson to break the law.
I cant believe this is happening in Britain......as the OP says, we're on our way to being a dictatorship
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
The people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 pmA strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 am Johnsons a wrong un alright....
According to the papers today, Ian Duncan Smith is encouraging johnson to break the law.
I cant believe this is happening in Britain......as the OP says, we're on our way to being a dictatorship
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
I think that was a general election. One of the party's is trying to have another, but 5 other parties have refused - so want to Britain closed for business. Why would you not want to sort this out?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:10 pmThe people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 pmA strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 am Johnsons a wrong un alright....
According to the papers today, Ian Duncan Smith is encouraging johnson to break the law.
I cant believe this is happening in Britain......as the OP says, we're on our way to being a dictatorship
Whoever wins can sort this out. But if there is a loophole or the EU refuse an extension, then we will be leaving without a deal. Not what most want, but we do need some certainty for everyone to move forward.
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
Nobody trusts Johnson before 31 Oct.Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:50 pmI think that was a general election. One of the party's is trying to have another, but 5 other parties have refused - so want to Britain closed for business. Why would you not want to sort this out?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:10 pmThe people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 pm
A strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .
Whoever wins can sort this out. But if there is a loophole or the EU refuse an extension, then we will be leaving without a deal. Not what most want, but we do need some certainty for everyone to move forward.
Can you not see that?
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If he did not stick to his word. An immediate backlash from all voters, no more Tory party. The EU may even decide to allow new negotiations immediately to keep us in.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:53 pmNobody trusts Johnson before 31 Oct.Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:50 pmI think that was a general election. One of the party's is trying to have another, but 5 other parties have refused - so want to Britain closed for business. Why would you not want to sort this out?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:10 pm
The people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.
Whoever wins can sort this out. But if there is a loophole or the EU refuse an extension, then we will be leaving without a deal. Not what most want, but we do need some certainty for everyone to move forward.
Can you not see that?
Unfortunately, i think that if forced to extend the deadline, Johnson may gain more than people realise. He can now prove that parliament is against people wishes. Only 60% of labour and 70% of conservative constituencies voted to leave. These will go against remain parties potentially.
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If we do come out next month then the foreseeable future will all be about trying to secure trade deals. Anyone who thinks it'll finally be an end to it, or there will be any certainty, is going to be sorely disappointed.Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:50 pmI think that was a general election. One of the party's is trying to have another, but 5 other parties have refused - so want to Britain closed for business. Why would you not want to sort this out?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:10 pmThe people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 pm
A strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .
Whoever wins can sort this out. But if there is a loophole or the EU refuse an extension, then we will be leaving without a deal. Not what most want, but we do need some certainty for everyone to move forward.
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
If you don't intend to carry out the wish of the referendum, what was the point of having them.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:47 pmBreaking means breaking.
And referendums aren’t legally binding
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
Do you have any proof for that. Mate?
Link please from an 'respected' and trusted source.
Now listen Sonny, 17.5 million voted to leave the EU in the largest democratic vote in UK history. I don't remember on the ballot paper a bit that said if you voted to leave please go to question 2 ie. 'Do you want a hard or soft brexit or a deal or no deal deal. It was in or out. f*** all else, you can't keep changing the rules because you're throwing a hissy fit because you don't like the result. It's called DEMOCRACY, something you leftys just don't understand.
If you don't like it, then f*** off to your wonderdful EU. And that's something I did, 'cos London isn't my own thing anymore and I quite like being a forerigner in someone elses country these days.
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
The point of the referendum was for Dave topoint nine one eight wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:48 pmIf you don't intend to carry out the wish of the referendum, what was the point of having them.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:47 pmBreaking means breaking.
And referendums aren’t legally binding
Sort out the Story Party & paranoia over losing seats
to nigel & ukip.
Come on , that was obvious to everybody
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I’m sure the Swedes are ecstatic to have you!StockholmO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:00 am
Do you have any proof for that. Mate?
Link please from an 'respected' and trusted source.
Now listen Sonny, 17.5 million voted to leave the EU in the largest democratic vote in UK history. I don't remember on the ballot paper a bit that said if you voted to leave please go to question 2 ie. 'Do you want a hard or soft brexit or a deal or no deal deal. It was in or out. f*** all else, you can't keep changing the rules because you're throwing a hissy fit because you don't like the result. It's called DEMOCRACY, something you leftys just don't understand.
If you don't like it, then f*** off to your wonderdful EU. And that's something I did, 'cos London isn't my own thing anymore and I quite like being a forerigner in someone elses country these days. For fannies sake.
Now WUM off.
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:27 amThe point of the referendum was for Dave topoint nine one eight wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:48 pmIf you don't intend to carry out the wish of the referendum, what was the point of having them.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:47 pm
Breaking means breaking.
And referendums aren’t legally binding
Sort out the Story Party & paranoia over losing seats
to nigel & ukip.
Come on , that was obvious to everybody
At the time the Tory party had not lost any seat to Ukip, in fact Ukip had no sitting MP's in Parliament
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
In my book that's TreasonPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:47 pm Remainer MPs discussed Brexit delay date with EU before passing bill. Doesn't seem right to me.
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:25 pmYes, they are called conservative politicians.Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:48 pmYou believe that. I'll stick to my opinion.BoniO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:34 pm
It's the new "spin" of late that all our Brexit woes are down to the behaviour of MP's whereas the blame really lies squarely on the shoulders of the Conservative Party and this government. That the Tories are to blame is the view of many, including many Tory MP's.
Brexit, IMO, is a bigger issue than party politics and all parties should have worked together to get the best deal for the country. Not spend years arguing, plotting and sabotaging to stop it happening for their own reasons.
The EU don't have to negotiate with us as Parliament Is full of self serving, incompetent tossers who don't know how to stand up for this country.
Your still out of touch, get out of your bubble, out of London you'll get a vastly different Idea of how the country thinks. It's the other way round fella
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:35 amYup, and I hope your last sentence proves true but there are a lot of plonkers who vote in this Country.Token wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:25 am The morning after the referendum Cameron shouldn’t have immediately resigned. He should've set a date for his departure and then held a consultation with all the parties as to how we left. Another referendum to confirm this then could’ve been held fairly soon after. Then we could trigger Article 50 and leave with the backing of all parties and the people.
Instead he cowardly left us in the poo poo. And May pressed ahead on her own. It never should’ve been down to the party in power to decide how we left. Had to involve all of them.
So every last part of this total catastrofuck lays squarely at the door of the Tories.
The only consolation is that once this is all finally over the Tory party will be left as the hard right English nationalist party responsible for destroying our economy and our society. And will never win an election again.
Your right there, you're one of them
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This isn't difficult stuff to comprehend.Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:50 pmI think that was a general election. One of the party's is trying to have another, but 5 other parties have refused - so want to Britain closed for business. Why would you not want to sort this out?Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:10 pmThe people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 pm
A strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .
Whoever wins can sort this out. But if there is a loophole or the EU refuse an extension, then we will be leaving without a deal. Not what most want, but we do need some certainty for everyone to move forward.
Given the stunts he's pulled so far, no one trusts Alexander de Pfeffel and quite rightly.
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I know what you mean - it’s mindbottling that anyone thinks BoJo The Clown is doing a good job. But the polls suggest otherwise, which makes me despair of many of my fellow Little Englanders. There must be a good 35% of the electorate who seem happy to self-harm on this issue and go over the no-deal cliff.
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People dont want to hear it, but they dont know what they want. Immigration is clearly a massive driver, but neither campaign did anything to enlighten to electorate to what Brexit would actually mean. People who say 'i didnt want a no deal brexit, but do now, just to get out' are mostly lying imo. Barley anyone who voted even knew we would be negotiating a 'deal'. They assumed we'd say ta ta, leave on a certain date, be able to travel to spain twice a year and all would be rosey. People are blinkered and thick, in general society, regardless of which way they voted.slacker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:28 am I know what you mean - it’s mindbottling that anyone thinks BoJo The Clown is doing a good job. But the polls suggest otherwise, which makes me despair of many of my fellow Little Englanders. There must be a good 35% of the electorate who seem happy to self-harm on this issue and go over the no-deal cliff.
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Is it a “Janet & John” book?point nine one eight wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:43 amIn my book that's TreasonPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:47 pm Remainer MPs discussed Brexit delay date with EU before passing bill. Doesn't seem right to me.
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:19 pmIs it a “Janet & John” book?point nine one eight wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:43 amIn my book that's TreasonPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:47 pm Remainer MPs discussed Brexit delay date with EU before passing bill. Doesn't seem right to me.
Nah Jennings ?
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
Which shows the STUPIDITY of anyone who backed Cameron & then May with votes in the general elections.point nine one eight wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:31 amtuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:27 amThe point of the referendum was for Dave topoint nine one eight wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:48 pm
If you don't intend to carry out the wish of the referendum, what was the point of having them.
Sort out the Story Party & paranoia over losing seats
to nigel & ukip.
Come on , that was obvious to everybody
At the time the Tory party had not lost any seat to Ukip, in fact Ukip had no sitting MP's in Parliament
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Everyone is resigning, feels much like that time we had a clown in charge at orient.
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
That’s democracy for you.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:10 pmThe people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 pmA strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 am Johnsons a wrong un alright....
According to the papers today, Ian Duncan Smith is encouraging johnson to break the law.
I cant believe this is happening in Britain......as the OP says, we're on our way to being a dictatorship
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Re: The UK - last step on the road to dictatorship
No it isn’t. Nobody voted for the DUP to control the government.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pmThat’s democracy for you.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:10 pmThe people decided last time and delivered a hung parliament propped up by DUP clowns.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:54 pm
A strange type of dictatorship that wants a general election so the people can decide who governs us .
No-one.