Labour Watch

[George M]

Labour to nationalise British steel despite it losing £700,000 a day. Not great business.

Good news for the workers.

Another failed Thatcherite privatisation. Let's hope its water next then the trains and then another 200 top companies.

How is losing £700,000 a year good news. It was privatised because it was a drain on public funds. It’s still a drain.

[Dunners]

It's not a drain. We need steel. It's of strategic national interest. So if it costs us just £700K a year to not be dependent on risky and increasingly expensive global supply chains, it's a bargain. Plus, we print the money anyway.

We should have done it for Port Talbot too.

[George M]

It's not a drain. We need steel. It's of strategic national interest. So if it costs us just £700K a year to not be dependent on risky and increasingly expensive global supply chains, it's a bargain. Plus, we print the money anyway.

We should have done it for Port Talbot too.

Sorry , as my first post £700k a day. Still a bargain

[Father Ted Crilly]

£700k per day = £255.5M Pa. In terms of our economy it’s a tiny amount to retain the crucial ability to produce steel.

[George M]

£700k per day = £255.5M Pa. In terms of our economy it’s a tiny amount to retain the crucial ability to produce steel.

It isn’t. How about all of our other businesses that struggle or fail because of cheaper imports. Shall we subsidise them all. We have tried all that before. It doesn’t work

[Father Ted Crilly]

£700k per day = £255.5M Pa. In terms of our economy it’s a tiny amount to retain the crucial ability to produce steel.

It isn’t. How about all of our other businesses that struggle or fail because of cheaper imports. Shall we subsidise them all. We have tried all that before. It doesn’t work

Read dunners post above. Not sure why you’re going on about subsidising other industries.

[George M]

Because there are other important industries that need support . Therefore, if you support one , support them all. Our steel industry has been inefficient and loss making for decades. We rely on the rest of the world for most things now. Why not steel.

[George M]

Coking coal and iron ore is being imported from the USA and Australia. Do you still think it’s a good deal for the UKs limited funds to keep a loss making business running. I’m sure the Yanks and Aussies will be delighted with such stupidity

[CEB2ElectricBoogaloo]

Because there are other important industries that need support . Therefore, if you support one , support them all. Our steel industry has been inefficient and loss making for decades. We rely on the rest of the world for most things now. Why not steel.

The “therefore” doesn’t make sense in that post

[Proposition Joe]

Because there are other important industries that need support . Therefore, if you support one , support them all. Our steel industry has been inefficient and loss making for decades. We rely on the rest of the world for most things now. Why not steel.

So it's bad that we rely on the rest of the world for most things, but we should add something else to the list? Not sure I understand.

[George M]

Because there are other important industries that need support . Therefore, if you support one , support them all. Our steel industry has been inefficient and loss making for decades. We rely on the rest of the world for most things now. Why not steel.

So it's bad that we rely on the rest of the world for most things, but we should add something else to the list? Not sure I understand.

Who said it’s bad ?

[George M]

Because there are other important industries that need support . Therefore, if you support one , support them all. Our steel industry has been inefficient and loss making for decades. We rely on the rest of the world for most things now. Why not steel.

The “therefore” doesn’t make sense in that post

Ignore it then

[Proposition Joe]

Because there are other important industries that need support . Therefore, if you support one , support them all. Our steel industry has been inefficient and loss making for decades. We rely on the rest of the world for most things now. Why not steel.

So it's bad that we rely on the rest of the world for most things, but we should add something else to the list? Not sure I understand.

Who said it’s bad ?

Y....you did?

[George M]

Where did I use the word bad or infer that it was bad

[RedDwarf 1881]

Coking coal and iron ore is being imported from the USA and Australia. Do you still think it’s a good deal for the UKs limited funds to keep a loss making business running. I’m sure the Yanks and Aussies will be delighted with such stupidity

It would be cheaper and better for the environment if we reopened one of our coal mines and used our own coal instead of importing it from the other side of the world

[Proposition Joe]

Where did I use the word bad or infer that it was bad

Ah, I see we're playing this game.

[BoniO]

Coking coal and iron ore is being imported from the USA and Australia. Do you still think it’s a good deal for the UKs limited funds to keep a loss making business running. I’m sure the Yanks and Aussies will be delighted with such stupidity

It would be cheaper and better for the environment if we reopened one of our coal mines and used our own coal instead of importing it from the other side of the world

You reckon? I think you need to consider how much it would take to "re-open" a coal mine as most have been flattened and/or built over by now.

[Dunners]

Can't we just invade some third-world failed state, shoot the locals, and then steal their oil? And sink a few Spanish galleons on the way home just for good measure.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Coking coal and iron ore is being imported from the USA and Australia. Do you still think it’s a good deal for the UKs limited funds to keep a loss making business running. I’m sure the Yanks and Aussies will be delighted with such stupidity

It would be cheaper and better for the environment if we reopened one of our coal mines and used our own coal instead of importing it from the other side of the world

You reckon? I think you need to consider how much it would take to "re-open" a coal mine as most have been flattened and/or built over by now.

I didn't know they were all built over or flattened . Short sighted if they are .

[George M]

£700k per day = £255.5M Pa. In terms of our economy it’s a tiny amount to retain the crucial ability to produce steel.

It isn’t. How about all of our other businesses that struggle or fail because of cheaper imports. Shall we subsidise them all. We have tried all that before. It doesn’t work

Read dunners post above. Not sure why you’re going on about subsidising other industries.

Read Dunners post and it doesn’t hold water. If we have to import the raw materials to produce steel then we don’t have national security anyway. And , by the way , we don’t have it with food either

[Long slender neck]

Just don't bother with anything then?

[George M]

With food in particular, we can’t do much about it. We cannot produce enough at home to feed 80 million mouths

[George M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg7q0e77exo

To all those who foolishly believed that we were already protected from migrants with criminal intent

[Long slender neck]

Criminal intent?

Article clearly says

Terrorists, war criminals and any other criminals whose offences carry a sentence of one year or more can already be refused asylum under the Refugee Convention

[George M]

Criminal intent?

Article clearly says

Terrorists, war criminals and any other criminals whose offences carry a sentence of one year or more can already be refused asylum under the Refugee Convention

And sex offenders .And if they don’t have passports they don’t have history !