Cheltenham Races

[George M]

The animal only has a name because it was given to it by a human for reasons of exploitation.

Aren't horse racing horses only alive because they have been specifically bred to race within the industry?

I suspect that is the case. So we are agreed breeding animals for human entertainment must end?

Are you going to break the news to Newmarket, Newbury or Cheltenham where millions will be taken out of the surrounding economy and thousands will lose jobs.

[Max B Gold]

Aren't horse racing horses only alive because they have been specifically bred to race within the industry?

I suspect that is the case. So we are agreed breeding animals for human entertainment must end?

Are you going to break the news to Newmarket, Newbury or Cheltenham where millions will be taken out of the surrounding economy and thousands will lose jobs.

It doesn't have to happen overnight Georgie Boy. It can be phased in and the workers could be retrained to make something useful like kidney machines or rockets and guns for use in Ukrainia and Israel.

[Hoover Attack]

Stud brings £375 million into the economy,

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

Yeah it is but they shoot horses, don't they?

Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?

Like it.

[BIGRON]

I can see valid points from both sides here

I'll still be having a bet on the Gold cup today though

[Stan1972]

I hope its on Galopin Des Champs Big Ron.
Double it up with Dinoblue in 14:40

[Max B Gold]

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

Yeah it is but they shoot horses, don't they?

Are you suggesting what I think you're suggesting?

Like it.

Yes. Like in the movie i am proposing to dispose of a jaded ballroom dancer as a warning to others to prevent a new series of the strangely addictive Strictly being filmed.

[Max B Gold]

I can see valid points from both sides here

I'll still be having a bet on the Gold cup today though

Good luck. I trust you will be only too happy to donate a small percentage to the Boxer Home for Knackered Horses.

[George M]

I suspect that is the case. So we are agreed breeding animals for human entertainment must end?

Are you going to break the news to Newmarket, Newbury or Cheltenham where millions will be taken out of the surrounding economy and thousands will lose jobs.

It doesn't have to happen overnight Georgie Boy. It can be phased in and the workers could be retrained to make something useful like kidney machines or rockets and guns for use in Ukrainia and Israel.

Not much entertainment for us in that though.

[Max B Gold]

Are you going to break the news to Newmarket, Newbury or Cheltenham where millions will be taken out of the surrounding economy and thousands will lose jobs.

It doesn't have to happen overnight Georgie Boy. It can be phased in and the workers could be retrained to make something useful like kidney machines or rockets and guns for use in Ukrainia and Israel.

Not much entertainment for us in that though.

There can be when you're young.

[Bandy Legs]

I'm glad you asked.

Stud brings £375 million into the economy,

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

[Bandy Legs]

Cheers for correcting my slight error.
Doesn't alter the fact that this is a travesty of a sporting event.

If you are going to pontificate about Horse racing at least get the Animals name right ffs.

Very poor wumming on your part. You of course don't deal with the issue - animal abuse.
What I find extraordinary is that people should follow a so called sporting event where its participants regularly die in front of thousands of spectators. I don't believe for a minute that any of us would be following football if this regularly happened on the field of play.

Injured horses are dealt with humanely.

[Max B Gold]

I'm glad you asked.

Stud brings £375 million into the economy,

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

So it's not a sustainable industry without subsidy from the gambling "industry". Let's abolish gambling and think of the benefit to society that will be.

[Bandy Legs]

I remember having a very pleasant day there in 1986 courtesy of corporate hospitality from a paint supplier who my company was a client off. During the day I found myself having a pee standing next door to Des Lynam - no that wasn't the hi-lite of the day, coming away with a profit of about £50 from my bets was. A very nice day, never been since.

EN, I'm genuinely interested as to how we are able to divorce personal experience of this event from the fact that it kills horses on a regular basis. In the year you went, a horse called Dawn Run fell & broke his neck. The horse racing fraternity no doubt rubbed its hands in anguish for a short while then thought never mind plenty more where he came from.

Apparently Dawn Run didn't fall & break her neck at the Cheltenham Festival in 1986 EN.
So 2 mistakes of fact written by VeganO.
In fact won the Gold Cup that year in one of the finest finishes ever.
The decision was then made by her owner to send her back to France to try to repeat her 1984 win in the Grande Course de Haies d'Auteuil (French Champion Hurdle), with French jockey Michel Chirol on board. She fell while going well at a hurdle on the back straight and, having broken her neck, never got up. The horse's death at age eight, while barely into her prime as a steeplechaser, was mourned by the racing public, including being reported on the front page of the following day's Irish Times. 
Made the Front page of Irish papers where she was adored by the public

[Bandy Legs]

I'm glad you asked.

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

So it's not a sustainable industry without subsidy from the gambling "industry". Let's abolish gambling and think of the benefit to society that will be.

The gambling industry has faults but it also makes people an awful lot of money when they know what they are doing.
Do not confuse FOBTIS with the Horse racing industry please.

[Max B Gold]

I'm glad you asked.


1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

So it's not a sustainable industry without subsidy from the gambling "industry". Let's abolish gambling and think of the benefit to society that will be.

The gambling industry has faults but it also makes people an awful lot of money when they know what they are doing.
Do not confuse FOBTIS with the Horse racing industry please.

Gambling is good. Who knew?

[Bandy Legs]

So it's not a sustainable industry without subsidy from the gambling "industry". Let's abolish gambling and think of the benefit to society that will be.

The gambling industry has faults but it also makes people an awful lot of money when they know what they are doing.
Do not confuse FOBTIS with the Horse racing industry please.

Gambling is good. Who knew?

Who knew ?
The same people who say Alcohol & Tobacco is good, maybe the sugary sweet confectionary people as well

[Max B Gold]

The gambling industry has faults but it also makes people an awful lot of money when they know what they are doing.
Do not confuse FOBTIS with the Horse racing industry please.

Gambling is good. Who knew?

Who knew ?
The same people who say Alcohol & Tobacco is good, maybe the sugary sweet confectionary people as well

A conspiracy then?

[Bandy Legs]

Gambling is good. Who knew?

Who knew ?
The same people who say Alcohol & Tobacco is good, maybe the sugary sweet confectionary people as well

A conspiracy then?

No, I do Hope the new book is a success, maybe get back to it now eh

[LittleMate]

I'm glad you asked.

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

So it's not a sustainable industry without subsidy from the gambling "industry". Let's abolish gambling and think of the benefit to society that will be.

Woke engineering.

That would crucify all sports where betting takes place - and all direct and indirect participants (players, staff, fans).

I'm not a gambler, but gambling has been around since the advent of civilization.

[Hoover Attack]

I'm glad you asked.

Stud brings £375 million into the economy,

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

So it's £4billion, not £375million? That escalated quickly!

Also, According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA)

[Bandy Legs]

I'm glad you asked.

What does this mean and where is this number from?

It's like the argument to support the royals - 'but touri$m'.

1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

So it's £4billion, not £375million? That escalated quickly!

Also, According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA)

Why are you being foolish.
I clearly wrote stud is worth £375 million.
The £4.1 billion comes from horse racing as I quoted in the article.
The £375 million is from the U.K stud industry
https://www.ifhaonline.org/resources/TB ... report.pdf

BHA is a public traded company & pays tax like any other buisness. This is based on published records.

Still people moan about the bad of Horse Racing.
A horse won yesterday called Doddiethegreat,
The prize money of £56k was donated to Dody Weirs wife & will make its way to the MND Trust in his name.
Marine Nationale won on Wednesday & a portion of the
£225k prize money was donated to the family of former rider Michael O'Sullivans family after he died in a fall recently.

[faldO]

Also, According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA)

You've done it again, haven't you.

[Bandy Legs]

Also, According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA)

You've done it again, haven't you.

He thinks he has
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/02813358

[Hoover Attack]

I'm glad you asked.


1. The Economic Impact of Horse Racing

Horse racing is often regarded as the second-largest sport in the UK, trailing only football in terms of attendance and revenue. According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA), the sport generated approximately £4.1 billion annually in direct, indirect, and associated expenditures. In 2019, over 5.62 million people attended more than 1,500 individual race meetings across the country. However, the industry has faced challenges, including declining attendance and lower prize money compared to international competitors.

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/business/horse ... uk-market/

The horseracing industry employs around 88,000 people and plays a crucial role in rural economies. Many racecourses rely heavily on the betting levy, generated by bookmakers and is vital for funding race prizes and other industry-related expenses. In the 2021-2022 fiscal year, the horserace betting levy brought in £97.6 million, a significant increase from the previous year.

So it's £4billion, not £375million? That escalated quickly!

Also, According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA)

Why are you being foolish.
I clearly wrote stud is worth £375 million.
The £4.1 billion comes from horse racing as I quoted in the article.
The £375 million is from the U.K stud industry
https://www.ifhaonline.org/resources/TB ... report.pdf

BHA is a public traded company & pays tax like any other buisness. This is based on published records.

Still people moan about the bad of Horse Racing.
A horse won yesterday called Doddiethegreat,
The prize money of £56k was donated to Dody Weirs wife & will make its way to the MND Trust in his name.
Marine Nationale won on Wednesday & a portion of the
£225k prize money was donated to the family of former rider Michael O'Sullivans family after he died in a fall recently.

It's a publicly traded company? Really?

It pays tax like any other business? Really?

Wasn't arguing about either of those issues you've incorrectly flagged, just their independence in producing a number like that. Have you got any indpendent references?

[Bandy Legs]

So it's £4billion, not £375million? That escalated quickly!

Also, According to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA)

Why are you being foolish.
I clearly wrote stud is worth £375 million.
The £4.1 billion comes from horse racing as I quoted in the article.
The £375 million is from the U.K stud industry
https://www.ifhaonline.org/resources/TB ... report.pdf

BHA is a public traded company & pays tax like any other buisness. This is based on published records.

Still people moan about the bad of Horse Racing.
A horse won yesterday called Doddiethegreat,
The prize money of £56k was donated to Dody Weirs wife & will make its way to the MND Trust in his name.
Marine Nationale won on Wednesday & a portion of the
£225k prize money was donated to the family of former rider Michael O'Sullivans family after he died in a fall recently.

It's a publicly traded company? Really?

It pays tax like any other business? Really?

Wasn't arguing about either of those issues you've incorrectly flagged, just their independence in producing a number like that. Have you got any indpendent references?

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... y/02813358

I trust the Tax Man, if you don't go prove it.

Just to finish, the day you prove you gave away over £50k to a charity fighting a horrible disease I'll listen to anything you have to say.
Until them try to be a decent Man.