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It’s not over, but it’s just much much tougher now , having lost four in a row , and chasing the pack, we would need to win most of our remaining games .
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We’d have to win most of our remaining games if we were currently in 5th
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Norlington Road wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:51 pm It’s not over, but it’s just much much tougher now , having lost four in a row , and chasing the pack, we would need to win most of our remaining games .
We won't win most of our remaining matches
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I have gone through the fixtures and reckon we will achieve another 18pts. But sadly 71 points will not be enough to secure that last play off place.
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Agree that we could end up in the high 60's or low 70's points wise. I don't think we are ready (yet) for promotion - squad depth is still shallow and we are nearly maxed out on attendance revenue. Optimistically, I am hoping that the new investor(s) see that we are a good L1 side but needed extra resources to get us into the top 3/4 places next season. I'm also hoping that we announce that a new stadium site is secured and we start the detailed planning work on making it a reality. With BR we are not going to able to compete longer term in the Championship - and that also applies to L1 (where we have the 15th largest attendance). So with WW aside (who have new wealthy owners) - we are already punching well above our weight!

Really hoping for a win on Saturday - just to keep the top 6 interest going! COYO's
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Reflecto wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:56 am Agree that we could end up in the high 60's or low 70's points wise. I don't think we are ready (yet) for promotion - squad depth is still shallow and we are nearly maxed out on attendance revenue. Optimistically, I am hoping that the new investor(s) see that we are a good L1 side but needed extra resources to get us into the top 3/4 places next season. I'm also hoping that we announce that a new stadium site is secured and we start the detailed planning work on making it a reality. With BR we are not going to able to compete longer term in the Championship - and that also applies to L1 (where we have the 15th largest attendance). So with WW aside (who have new wealthy owners) - we are already punching well above our weight!

Really hoping for a win on Saturday - just to keep the top 6 interest going! COYO's
Yeah, I think we're all hoping for that . Just keep your fingers crossed.
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Reflecto wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:56 am Agree that we could end up in the high 60's or low 70's points wise. I don't think we are ready (yet) for promotion - squad depth is still shallow and we are nearly maxed out on attendance revenue. Optimistically, I am hoping that the new investor(s) see that we are a good L1 side but needed extra resources to get us into the top 3/4 places next season. I'm also hoping that we announce that a new stadium site is secured and we start the detailed planning work on making it a reality. With BR we are not going to able to compete longer term in the Championship - and that also applies to L1 (where we have the 15th largest attendance). So with WW aside (who have new wealthy owners) - we are already punching well above our weight!

Really hoping for a win on Saturday - just to keep the top 6 interest going! COYO's
Squad if far to low on depth and quality as a result of being in the bottom end of spending in the league.
RW has done an amazing job with the squad we have but left with unenviable job of trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear.Far to many players that are sick notes when they come in and after they arrive , it is not sustainable.
I really hope we get the investment needed to bring in the quantity and quality of players needed to get promoted and sustain a place in the Championship and a new stadium that is future proof to allow attendances equal to the top ones in the Championship.
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The squad as it stands now is the most competitive and full of quality I can probably ever remember, after this Januarys transfer window.

The problem is the damage was done by that stage because it was understaffed in the first half of the season.
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Injuries have screwed us. It's that simple I feel. We've done incredibly well with quite a few of our bigger players out early in the season but the last batch of injuries - Beckles, Happe, Simpson, Currie, James, O'Neil, Agyei (he's back now but his absence hurt us) - all these injuries have come home to roost. Clearly, our defence has been hit the worst. Shame, but I don't feel anyone or any policy is to blame here.
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BoniO wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:41 am Injuries have screwed us. It's that simple I feel. We've done incredibly well with quite a few of our bigger players out early in the season but the last batch of injuries - Beckles, Happe, Simpson, Currie, James, O'Neil, Agyei (he's back now but his absence hurt us) - all these injuries have come home to roost. Clearly, our defence has been hit the worst. Shame, but I don't feel anyone or any policy is to blame here.
Not even Hemming?
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Max B Gold wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:45 am
BoniO wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:41 am Injuries have screwed us. It's that simple I feel. We've done incredibly well with quite a few of our bigger players out early in the season but the last batch of injuries - Beckles, Happe, Simpson, Currie, James, O'Neil, Agyei (he's back now but his absence hurt us) - all these injuries have come home to roost. Clearly, our defence has been hit the worst. Shame, but I don't feel anyone or any policy is to blame here.
Not even Hemming?
Always the voice of reason! I kind of took that as read to be honest but yeah, his parody of a keepers performance surely didn't help - he probably cost us upwards of 8-10 points. We'd recovered well since his "contribution" though but the latest batch of injuries may cost us dearly.
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BoniO wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:41 am Injuries have screwed us. It's that simple I feel. We've done incredibly well with quite a few of our bigger players out early in the season but the last batch of injuries - Beckles, Happe, Simpson, Currie, James, O'Neil, Agyei (he's back now but his absence hurt us) - all these injuries have come home to roost. Clearly, our defence has been hit the worst. Shame, but I don't feel anyone or any policy is to blame here.
Absolutely injuries have screwed us, but a portion of that blame falls due to players being overused, brought back too soon etc. All because of a lack of proper depth in the first half of the season.

We've also had players visibly running on empty but still being played, because of a lack of options.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:38 pm
BoniO wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:41 am Injuries have screwed us. It's that simple I feel. We've done incredibly well with quite a few of our bigger players out early in the season but the last batch of injuries - Beckles, Happe, Simpson, Currie, James, O'Neil, Agyei (he's back now but his absence hurt us) - all these injuries have come home to roost. Clearly, our defence has been hit the worst. Shame, but I don't feel anyone or any policy is to blame here.
Absolutely injuries have screwed us, but a portion of that blame falls due to players being overused, brought back too soon etc. All because of a lack of proper depth in the first half of the season.

We've also had players visibly running on empty but still being played, because of a lack of options.
Not disagreeing with you. The only point I’d make is that we’d have needed some depth of squad to cover the amount of injuries we’ve had. Let’s hope we can pull the rabbit out of the hat and somehow make the playoffs.
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I’m not making myself clear, sorry - I’m saying the lack of depth we started the season with causes more injuries because we overuse the limited players we have. It’s a false economy.
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And by lack of depth, I’m including the likes of Sonny as a first time loanee (and Donley, to be fair), out of shape DJ, match-shy Dom Ball, unsuitable/not good enough cheapies Lemming and Warrington etc, it’s not just about numbers.
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Lifelongfan wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:16 am Just be realistic. IMO we are not good enough. No good saying if we win a certain amount of matches & others slip up. They won't slip up. They are better teams. Start to build & plan for next season
You would not be talking like that after we beat Wrexham. Apart from Birmingham all the other teams can beat each other. It’s no where near over. The last thing we want is criticism like that.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:54 pm And by lack of depth, I’m including the likes of Sonny as a first time loanee (and Donley, to be fair), out of shape DJ, match-shy Dom Ball, unsuitable/not good enough cheapies Lemming and Warrington etc, it’s not just about numbers.
Two factors here: wages & fees went nuts last summer, and we were unprepared/unwilling to join in. And the ambition to mount a playoff charge wasn't there either, it's only over-performance by RW over the winter months that put this on the table.

Not disagreeing with you at all though.
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OyinbO wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:28 pmAnd the ambition to mount a playoff charge wasn't there either, it's only over-performance by RW over the winter months that put this on the table.

Yeah, fair point.
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moonwalk19 wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:22 pm
Lifelongfan wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:16 am Just be realistic. IMO we are not good enough. No good saying if we win a certain amount of matches & others slip up. They won't slip up. They are better teams. Start to build & plan for next season
You would not be talking like that after we beat Wrexham. Apart from Birmingham all the other teams can beat each other. It’s no where near over. The last thing we want is criticism like that.
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LeytonOstone wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:41 pm
moonwalk19 wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:22 pm
Lifelongfan wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:16 am Just be realistic. IMO we are not good enough. No good saying if we win a certain amount of matches & others slip up. They won't slip up. They are better teams. Start to build & plan for next season
You would not be talking like that after we beat Wrexham. Apart from Birmingham all the other teams can beat each other. It’s no where near over. The last thing we want is criticism like that.
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Yes. they have gone now . All we can do now is try and finish as high as high we can but in reality our season is over .
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They’re not gone. We can still get to 83 points and 78 will do. Win the next 5 and it’s game on. We’ve still got something to play for, the next 5 opponents haven’t.
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Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:07 am They’re not gone. We can still get to 83 points and 78 will do. Win the next 5 and it’s game on. We’ve still got something to play for, the next 5 opponents haven’t.
We won't . Not going to make up 7 points. Long gone
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Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:07 am They’re not gone. We can still get to 83 points and 78 will do. Win the next 5 and it’s game on. We’ve still got something to play for, the next 5 opponents haven’t.
I am not sure these teams, with nothing to play for will ease up.
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They’ve got a week to pull themselves together. Next Saturday will prove whether there’s any fight ⚽️ or whether that the trip to Blackpool is for a donkey ride on the beach 🫏 🏖️
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Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:19 pm They’ve got a week to pull themselves together. Next Saturday will prove whether there’s any fight ⚽️ or whether that the trip to Blackpool is for a donkey ride on the beach 🫏 🏖️
We won't beat Blackpool. Stevenage bullied us in the EFL trophy
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