Russia / Ukraine Watch

[Celtient]

Yeah, cos he could definitely rely on Putin to keep his word

[BoniO]

Yeah, cos he could definitely rely on Putin to keep his word

Honour amongst thieves?

But yeah, I get your point. Trump would need to keep Putin sweet - maybe he'll give him Greenland?

[Max B Gold]

An interesting read from an actual journalist driven out of the BBC for trying to do his job properly.

https://goodallandgoodluck.substack.com ... irect=true

Makes sense. Trump giving Putin what he wants in exchange for him keeping out of any conflict between China and the US seems probable. It also helps Trump to have Europe in turmoil over security from Russian territorial infringements too. Anyone got a second hand Anderson Shelter for sale?

Living a mere 17 miles from the nuclear base at Faslane I'm not going to waste my money on an Anderson shelter.

Just hope Os win promotion before the balloon goes up. Trust a Trump/Putin axis of evil to ruin my retirement.

[BoniO]

An interesting read from an actual journalist driven out of the BBC for trying to do his job properly.

https://goodallandgoodluck.substack.com ... irect=true

Makes sense. Trump giving Putin what he wants in exchange for him keeping out of any conflict between China and the US seems probable. It also helps Trump to have Europe in turmoil over security from Russian territorial infringements too. Anyone got a second hand Anderson Shelter for sale?

Living a mere 17 miles from the nuclear base at Faslane I'm not going to waste my money on an Anderson shelter.

Just hope Os win promotion before the balloon goes up. Trust a Trump/Putin axis of evil to ruin my retirement.

Sounds like you need a sturdy kitchen table to take shelter under. Remember to stock up on baked beans.

[RedDwarf 1881]

And don’t forget a few tins of white wash to paint your house white in order to deflect the heat from the blast

[Father Ted Crilly]

Weird.

[Max B Gold]

And don’t forget a few tins of white wash to paint your house white in order to deflect the heat from the blast

Ha, jokes on you my house is already white.

[Max B Gold]

Weird.

The late Jimmy Reids granddaughter no less. But yes bizarre. Its like she doesn't listen when Corbo denounces Putin and was doing it long before it became fashionable.

[Dunners]

That post by Joani Reid is ridiculous, and it may be explained slightly by the fact her seat is at risk from the SNP, so she needs to raise her profile.

But may be a slight legacy of Corbyn's idiotic suggestion, following the Salisbury poisoning, to entrust the Russians to investigate rather than accept the conclusions of the UK Government. He certainly wasn't denouncing Putin then.

[Currywurst and Chips]

And this gem from Feb 2022 at the start of the war

[Dunners]

Oh yeah, that was when Stop The War effectively admitted they were sponsored by hostile foreign governments.

[Max B Gold]

That post by Joani Reid is ridiculous, and it may be explained slightly by the fact her seat is at risk from the SNP, so she needs to raise her profile.

But may be a slight legacy of Corbyn's idiotic suggestion, following the Salisbury poisoning, to entrust the Russians to investigate rather than accept the conclusions of the UK Government. He certainly wasn't denouncing Putin then.

Corbo did himself no favours with they way he handled the poisonings. But its actually possible to want to stop the war and denounce Putin. Which was his position.

To bury ones head in the sand and deny NATO expansion was a factor in the invasion ignores the facts and in doing so hinders a resolution of the conflict.

[Long slender neck]

So you think countries shouldnt be allowed to setup to defend themselves (against russian invasion) in case it upsets Russia?

[Dunners]

I dealt with the whole NATO expansion/Chomsky-take thing earlier on in this thread.

[Long slender neck]

This is 85 pages long damnit, I'm not going back.

[Max B Gold]

So you think countries shouldnt be allowed to setup to defend themselves (against russian invasion) in case it upsets Russia?

I'm just going to assume you are thick. Of course I don't.

Not everything I post is my thinking but an attempt to add some understanding to the complexity instead of the yaboo instinct to take sides without any real understanding of the facts.

That and a mission to create an MB equivalent to the Theatre of the Absurd.

[Long slender neck]

So I guess it really annoys Vlad and Jeremy if you attempt to defend yourself from invasion?

[Celtient]

Finland and Sweden joined NATO as a direct result of the Ukraine invasion, so despite Vlad's assertion that The Special Military Operation is going exactly to plan, I'm not so sure

[Max B Gold]

So I guess it really annoys Vlad and Jeremy if you attempt to defend yourself from invasion?

Vlad is ragin' but much less so these days after cementing an alliance with leading NATO member, the Good Ole US of A. Despite being less than pro American I suspect Jeremy is a bit annoyed by that. I know I am.

[Dunners]

However, the US's muscle flexing over North, Central and some Southern American countries could make sense if it has already concluded to rapidly on-shore all of its industrial and agricultural needs onto the home continent. If it does this, then it will lose its incentive to maintain dominance in and around the seas of Asia.

An interesting, and unsettling theory (for Europeans especially): www.noahpinion.blog/p/america-is-being-sold-out-by-its

[RedDwarf 1881]

And don’t forget a few tins of white wash to paint your house white in order to deflect the heat from the blast

Ha, jokes on you my house is already white.

Ok then , you can relax . However , just don’t forget to wear a good pair of sunglasses and put on the highest factor sun lotion you can find.

[RedDwarf 1881]

An interesting read from an actual journalist driven out of the BBC for trying to do his job properly.

https://goodallandgoodluck.substack.com ... irect=true

Makes sense. Trump giving Putin what he wants in exchange for him keeping out of any conflict between China and the US seems probable. It also helps Trump to have Europe in turmoil over security from Russian territorial infringements too. Anyone got a second hand Anderson Shelter for sale?

Living a mere 17 miles from the nuclear base at Faslane I'm not going to waste my money on an Anderson shelter.

Just hope Os win promotion before the balloon goes up. Trust a Trump/Putin axis of evil to ruin my retirement.

[Mistadobalina]

However, the US's muscle flexing over North, Central and some Southern American countries could make sense if it has already concluded to rapidly on-shore all of its industrial and agricultural needs onto the home continent. If it does this, then it will lose its incentive to maintain dominance in and around the seas of Asia.

An interesting, and unsettling theory (for Europeans especially): www.noahpinion.blog/p/america-is-being-sold-out-by-its

Not sure I buy this as there is no version of the future where Russia dominates Europe, even with it's leadership fragmented. It's population, economy and military are dwarfed by Europe. It's taken years to capture a segment of a dirt poor, much smaller neighbour. There is zero chance it could deal with just Poland.

[RedDwarf 1881]

However, the US's muscle flexing over North, Central and some Southern American countries could make sense if it has already concluded to rapidly on-shore all of its industrial and agricultural needs onto the home continent. If it does this, then it will lose its incentive to maintain dominance in and around the seas of Asia.

An interesting, and unsettling theory (for Europeans especially): www.noahpinion.blog/p/america-is-being-sold-out-by-its

Not sure I buy this as there is no version of the future where Russia dominates Europe, even with it's leadership fragmented. It's population, economy and military are dwarfed by Europe. It's taken years to capture a segment of a dirt poor, much smaller neighbour. There is zero chance it could deal with just Poland.

Of course it won’t happen . Russia knows the consequences of attacking a NATO country the same as the rest of the world.

[Dunners]

However, the US's muscle flexing over North, Central and some Southern American countries could make sense if it has already concluded to rapidly on-shore all of its industrial and agricultural needs onto the home continent. If it does this, then it will lose its incentive to maintain dominance in and around the seas of Asia.

An interesting, and unsettling theory (for Europeans especially): www.noahpinion.blog/p/america-is-being-sold-out-by-its

Not sure I buy this as there is no version of the future where Russia dominates Europe, even with it's leadership fragmented. It's population, economy and military are dwarfed by Europe. It's taken years to capture a segment of a dirt poor, much smaller neighbour. There is zero chance it could deal with just Poland.

Completely agree re Russia. But that doesn't rule out that this could be the Trumipian strategy regardless. Only, a Europe left to fend for itself, could soon start to see the emergence of age old disputes.