Not a sensible argument we’ve developed him and should get a fee for him. If he moves to another club higher up the pyramid and then moves again do you think they would be happy to let him go for nothing? We all know lower league clubs often survive with the help of transfer fees!Hoover Attack wrote:Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:29 pm I don't know why people get so hung up on securing a transfer fee for a player that didn't cost us anything to sign.
If he gets to the end of his contract and he's developed to such an extent that he can move up a league and earn bigger bucks, effectively having outgrown us, then he goes with my blessing. We just have to go out and find another young out of contract player and repeat the process.
Ethan Galbraith
Moderator: Long slender neck
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1746
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:34 pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 310 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1334
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:24 am
- Has thanked: 22 times
- Been thanked: 246 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
The club should've had a replacement sorted for the last 18 months, this was always going to happen at some point, all well run clubs should almost have a price set for every player in the squad and a replacement ready to bring ing
- Hoover Attack
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 6057
- Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:41 am
- Has thanked: 795 times
- Been thanked: 1528 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
It does happen. I’d guess the majority of our squad have joined us out of contract.cockhat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:38 pmNot a sensible argument we’ve developed him and should get a fee for him. If he moves to another club higher up the pyramid and then moves again do you think they would be happy to let him go for nothing? We all know lower league clubs often survive with the help of transfer fees!Hoover Attack wrote:Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:29 pm I don't know why people get so hung up on securing a transfer fee for a player that didn't cost us anything to sign.
If he gets to the end of his contract and he's developed to such an extent that he can move up a league and earn bigger bucks, effectively having outgrown us, then he goes with my blessing. We just have to go out and find another young out of contract player and repeat the process.
I know if I was a professional footballer - stop sniggering please - I’d be looking to see out my contract and move to another club transfer fee free, to pick up a massive signing on bonus.
- Hoover Attack
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 6057
- Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:41 am
- Has thanked: 795 times
- Been thanked: 1528 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
18 months ago? He’d barely played for us.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm The club should've had a replacement sorted for the last 18 months, this was always going to happen at some point, all well run clubs should almost have a price set for every player in the squad and a replacement ready to bring ing
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1334
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:24 am
- Has thanked: 22 times
- Been thanked: 246 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
Meant by this point last year, it was clear he was a talent, for some reason thought he had been here longer in my headHoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:54 pm18 months ago? He’d barely played for us.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm The club should've had a replacement sorted for the last 18 months, this was always going to happen at some point, all well run clubs should almost have a price set for every player in the squad and a replacement ready to bring ing
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1334
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:23 pm
- Has thanked: 42 times
- Been thanked: 249 times
-
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 7968
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3545 times
- Been thanked: 1825 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
For senior pro journeymen fair enough but young players where the club has developed them we need to be making something back on. Those yearly losses aren't paying themselves.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:29 pm I don't know why people get so hung up on securing a transfer fee for a player that didn't cost us anything to sign.
If he gets to the end of his contract and he's developed to such an extent that he can move up a league and earn bigger bucks, effectively having outgrown us, then he goes with my blessing. We just have to go out and find another young out of contract player and repeat the process.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1667
- Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:43 pm
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 195 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
Over the last couple of seasons we have lost Smyth , Vigs , El Miz , Bonne , Ruel , Forde , Archibald , and plenty more. We miss them but they get replaced. It’s disappointing but no big deal. Dan A and Ollie are both out but we aren’t exactly missing them. It’s the nature of the game.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm The club should've had a replacement sorted for the last 18 months, this was always going to happen at some point, all well run clubs should almost have a price set for every player in the squad and a replacement ready to bring ing
-
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12889
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:06 am
- Has thanked: 9 times
- Been thanked: 2620 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
All the same I'd rather we kept Ethan , thanks and made a good go at getting into the play offs. Who knows ,we might even win promotion .George M wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:54 pmOver the last couple of seasons we have lost Smyth , Vigs , El Miz , Bonne , Ruel , Forde , Archibald , and plenty more. We miss them but they get replaced. It’s disappointing but no big deal. Dan A and Ollie are both out but we aren’t exactly missing them. It’s the nature of the game.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm The club should've had a replacement sorted for the last 18 months, this was always going to happen at some point, all well run clubs should almost have a price set for every player in the squad and a replacement ready to bring ing
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1667
- Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:43 pm
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 195 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
Agreed. I would rather he stayed . But I’m not stressed about it. Players give you their best for a period , move on , and a new player replaces them.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:16 amAll the same I'd rather we kept Ethan , thanks and made a good go at getting into the play offs. Who knows ,we might even win promotion .George M wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:54 pmOver the last couple of seasons we have lost Smyth , Vigs , El Miz , Bonne , Ruel , Forde , Archibald , and plenty more. We miss them but they get replaced. It’s disappointing but no big deal. Dan A and Ollie are both out but we aren’t exactly missing them. It’s the nature of the game.essexfootball wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:45 pm The club should've had a replacement sorted for the last 18 months, this was always going to happen at some point, all well run clubs should almost have a price set for every player in the squad and a replacement ready to bring ing
-
- Bored office worker
- Posts: 2981
- Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:29 pm
- Has thanked: 32 times
- Been thanked: 591 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
But that's normally in the summer, can't recall losing many of our better players in January
-
- Fresh Alias
- Posts: 185
- Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:23 pm
- Has thanked: 136 times
- Been thanked: 38 times
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1294
- Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:06 pm
- Has thanked: 20 times
- Been thanked: 263 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
Orient have the option of extending his contract for another year. An option they will take up. He is going nowhere. The reporter does not even know his contract position. He reported previously that we had made a bid of 250k bid for Wimbledon’s Matt stevens which was rubbishRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:42 pm I would rather we lost Ethan in the Summer for nothing and went for the play offs rather than cash in on him now .. We won't achieve anything by selling our best players all the time .
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1746
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:34 pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 310 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
If we have the option of an extra year then we should get as much as we can if he leaves.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:51 pmIt does happen. I’d guess the majority of our squad have joined us out of contract.cockhat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:38 pmNot a sensible argument we’ve developed him and should get a fee for him. If he moves to another club higher up the pyramid and then moves again do you think they would be happy to let him go for nothing? We all know lower league clubs often survive with the help of transfer fees!Hoover Attack wrote:Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:29 pm I don't know why people get so hung up on securing a transfer fee for a player that didn't cost us anything to sign.
If he gets to the end of his contract and he's developed to such an extent that he can move up a league and earn bigger bucks, effectively having outgrown us, then he goes with my blessing. We just have to go out and find another young out of contract player and repeat the process.
I know if I was a professional footballer - stop sniggering please - I’d be looking to see out my contract and move to another club transfer fee free, to pick up a massive signing on bonus.
I might be wrong but wasn’t El Miz in the same position with Ipswich? He made it known he wanted to stay at Orient, but Ipswich wanted wonga and got a substantial amount by taking up the year option. Did El Miz get a big fat signing on fee - I doubt it.
Makes no sense getting someone on a free transfer and not to see a financial benefit from the development of a player.
- OyinbO
- Bored office worker
- Posts: 2201
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:28 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 1488 times
- Been thanked: 753 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
This is a key point, along with the fact that he’s playing regularly, enjoying his football in a team that’s going places this season. Unless Nigel is desperate to cash in (can’t be ruled out) you’d be surprised if Ethan himself would be agitating for the move when they (and others) will likely be back for him in the summer anywayHoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:51 pmIt does happen. I’d guess the majority of our squad have joined us out of contract.cockhat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:38 pmNot a sensible argument we’ve developed him and should get a fee for him. If he moves to another club higher up the pyramid and then moves again do you think they would be happy to let him go for nothing? We all know lower league clubs often survive with the help of transfer fees!Hoover Attack wrote:Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:29 pm I don't know why people get so hung up on securing a transfer fee for a player that didn't cost us anything to sign.
If he gets to the end of his contract and he's developed to such an extent that he can move up a league and earn bigger bucks, effectively having outgrown us, then he goes with my blessing. We just have to go out and find another young out of contract player and repeat the process.
I know if I was a professional footballer - stop sniggering please - I’d be looking to see out my contract and move to another club transfer fee free, to pick up a massive signing on bonus.
- Rich Tea Wellin
- MB Legend
- Posts: 10864
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:01 pm
- Has thanked: 4693 times
- Been thanked: 3378 times
-
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 7968
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3545 times
- Been thanked: 1825 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
That I think will be the case for Dan Agyei and he falls into that category of good senior pros we've got on a free so if they leave on a free fair do'sHoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:51 pm I know if I was a professional footballer - stop sniggering please - I’d be looking to see out my contract and move to another club transfer fee free, to pick up a massive signing on bonus.
-
- Fresh Alias
- Posts: 61
- Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:58 am
- Been thanked: 11 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
The club have often said , that they try and find players with potential to develop and sell on. The time we spend on these players needs to earn the club income . Equally we need to benefit on the pitch from such talent before we let them leave , or the whole thing becomes pointless
Last edited by Norlington Road on Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1043
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:08 am
- Has thanked: 208 times
- Been thanked: 363 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
There is a big risk for footballers in running their contract down to nothing, especially for one like Dan A where the last two seasons have been injury hit
Sometimes a bird in hand is the best option.
With Galbraith can’t see him moving in the window unless we receive a ridiculous offer. We can action the option for another year at our convenience and he can go in the summer for a decent fee, if that’s what all parties want to do.
Ofcourse, he might fancy championship football with us!
Sometimes a bird in hand is the best option.
With Galbraith can’t see him moving in the window unless we receive a ridiculous offer. We can action the option for another year at our convenience and he can go in the summer for a decent fee, if that’s what all parties want to do.
Ofcourse, he might fancy championship football with us!
-
- Fresh Alias
- Posts: 61
- Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:58 am
- Been thanked: 11 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
But that isn’t a very good business model. The club have often said , that they try and find players with potential to develop and sell on. The time we spend on these players needs to earn the club income . Equally we need to benefit on the pitch from such talent before we let them leave , or the whole thing becomes pointlessHoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:29 pm I don't know why people get so hung up on securing a transfer fee for a player that didn't cost us anything to sign.
If he gets to the end of his contract and he's developed to such an extent that he can move up a league and earn bigger bucks, effectively having outgrown us, then he goes with my blessing. We just have to go out and find another young out of contract player and repeat the process.
- OyinbO
- Bored office worker
- Posts: 2201
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:28 pm
- Location: London
- Has thanked: 1488 times
- Been thanked: 753 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
Koroma and Bonne both had very good offers to go in January 2019, but stayed to finish the job and ended up going to the same Clubs for a bit less money at the end of the season.
-
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12889
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:06 am
- Has thanked: 9 times
- Been thanked: 2620 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
If we were going nowhere in the league then maybe sell . However we're in a very strong position going for the play offs and a possible promotion . We have to keep our best players at the moment and take this opportunity otherwise what's the point . Players can always leave in the Summer if they wish .
Last edited by RedDwarf 1881 on Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Fresh Alias
- Posts: 38
- Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2024 4:21 pm
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 10 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
i reckon we keep ethan for the season, push for promotion, of we dont go up we trigger the one year extension and maybe sell him if we get a good bid (£1mil or above). i feel like azeem is his replacement - hes clearly very good and has a very high ceiling if newcastle bayer Leverkusen and villa were all after him a year ago
-
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12889
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:06 am
- Has thanked: 9 times
- Been thanked: 2620 times
Re: Ethan Galbraith
Azeem is more likely our replacement for El-MizDelightInE10 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:48 pm i reckon we keep ethan for the season, push for promotion, of we dont go up we trigger the one year extension and maybe sell him if we get a good bid (£1mil or above). i feel like azeem is his replacement - hes clearly very good and has a very high ceiling if newcastle bayer Leverkusen and villa were all after him a year ago
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1334
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:23 pm
- Has thanked: 42 times
- Been thanked: 249 times