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Axel Rudakubana, 18, has pleaded guilty at Liverpool Crown Court to murdering three young girls.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c9q7r4wpep0t
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Saves the families having to go through the trauma of a full trial at least.
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Was just thinking the same.
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It appears that he was referred to Prevent three times before he went on the killing spree, but nothing happened.
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Would like to know who referred him and why. And why didnt Prevent do anything?

Agency not doing their job seems to be a recurring theme.

How has he been able to make Ricin at home without his parents knowing? They should be prosecuted too.

Answers to my own questions: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... hree-times
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Sounds like you may be calling for an enquiry. Careful.
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Surely if you want to shoot up a school or massacre a bunch of kids, that's *literally* interest in a terrorist act? So it feels odd to say - if I've read this right (and appreciate probably being overly simplistic) - that because there wasn't any evidence of an overriding extremist ideology behind his interest, there's nothing we can do, off you go to talking therapies, son.

I referred someone to Prevent once. Dunno what happened, suppose it's pretty reasonable that you don't get a feedback form or running commentary, but then again, perhaps they did f all and just closed the referral.
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Can't believe a MODERATOR would say this to a potential hero. I could have saved lives, you know.
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Proposition Joe wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:23 pm Surely if you want to shoot up a school or massacre a bunch of kids, that's *literally* interest in a terrorist act? So it feels odd to say - if I've read this right (and appreciate probably being overly simplistic) - that because there wasn't any evidence of an overriding extremist ideology behind his interest, there's nothing we can do, off you go to talking therapies, son.

I referred someone to Prevent once. Dunno what happened, suppose it's pretty reasonable that you don't get a feedback form or running commentary, but then again, perhaps they did f all and just closed the referral.
It’s not been classified as terrorism because despite it being a meticulously planned attack that he clearly intended to do, they couldn’t pin the motive on Islam/nazism/other religious or political extremism. Therefore it didn’t meet the threshold of terrorism

It since transpired months later that he was in possession of ricin and an Al Qaeda training manual (something that would have come to light quickly but wasn’t released). Then today, circa seven months on, that he had been referred to prevent three times for unspecified extremism

This doesn’t prove that therefore it definitely was terrorism after all, but it provides Union Jack Patriot Twitter enough ammunition for a few years
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Dunners wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:19 pm Sounds like you may be calling for an enquiry. Careful.
Well Cooper has granted one

https://news.sky.com/story/inquiry-into ... r-13293130
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Good.

Interesting to see Badenoch implying there was Governmental failings, given it was, er, her Government which was in power when Prevent apparently failed to do anything on 3 occasions.
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Can't be given a whole life sentence because he's under 21.

His Dad stopped him getting a taxi to his old school just a week earlier.
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I doubt he'll ever be released.
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Nice to see Starmer admitting that the main threat of terrorism is now from within . There’s a surprise.
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Dunners wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:23 pm I doubt he'll ever be released.
Is that a threat?
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Quite like the idea of Dunnem being the shady fixer behind the tragic prison suicides of the likes of Epstein and D'Angelo Barksdale.
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Proposition Joe wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:07 am Quite like the idea of Dunnem being the shady fixer behind the tragic prison suicides of the likes of Epstein and D'Angelo Barksdale.
He's got a big enough belt.
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Some of these details emerging from the sentencing are heart breaking

It’s a real shame that a whole life tariff isn’t an option
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Sounds like he's being a right little charmer in the dock.
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Related or not , the Telegraph has reported this morning that 1 in 12 of the population of London are here illegally
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George M wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:36 pm Related or not , the Telegraph has reported this morning that 1 in 12 of the population of London are here illegally
Quite clearly not related - so what's the point you're hoping to make?
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Should hanging be brought back for these kinds of heinous crimes, especially if they are proven to be bang to rights?
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