Academy has just sold two ten year olds to Arsenal & Chelsea plus Teddie Lamb will be going in a few weeksgshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:59 pmWe've been a striker light in the squad since last January when Drinan was released and the two anonymous loanees miles off the required level were the "replacement"Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:40 pm Our front 4 are worked harder than any other players in the squad (Galbraith and Brown excluded, but Brown does have cover and is rested).
This was literally always going to happen. We end up paying a years money to the likes of Agyei and ONeill but only get 6-9 months out of them. This approach has to change.
Kelman will be next unless we bring in someone adequate in the next week/10 days.
At least we're getting some output from Agyei and O'Neill, surely surely the club have now learnt their lesson about signing senior pros will poor injury records e.g. Graham as that's been a very expensive signing for the return on minutes played. With Graham (and sadly Theo) giving anything other than "pay as you play" would be crazy going forward imo.
The latest Agyei injury was his ankle going over off balance trying to take a shot, not much you can do about that really.
I was told this interview also confirms the academy still runs at a loss, is that correct?
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I thought Mr Ling answered surprisingly thoroughly and a really good listen.
eg potential targets ongoing discussions and a little frustration with the negative pr on chigwell school.
Good timing for him with the interview - albeit the good form now adding to Kelman/Keeley price tag ie not freebies.
Interesting the points on the dominos meaning better targets could come avialble - look at chesterfield example signing the Southend loanee - maybe part of their cover plan for Markanday Proof on the gamble to wait will be by the end of the month on what additons are made.
eg potential targets ongoing discussions and a little frustration with the negative pr on chigwell school.
Good timing for him with the interview - albeit the good form now adding to Kelman/Keeley price tag ie not freebies.
Interesting the points on the dominos meaning better targets could come avialble - look at chesterfield example signing the Southend loanee - maybe part of their cover plan for Markanday Proof on the gamble to wait will be by the end of the month on what additons are made.
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Could well be the case ?Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:12 pm Kelman is a free agent in May, as far as I'm aware.
But would QPR be due compo due to his age?
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And how much do you get for said 10 year old? Doubt it even covers the coaching.Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:26 pm Academy has just sold two ten year olds to Arsenal & Chelsea plus Teddie Lamb will be going in a few weeks
Saw someone mention this Lamb deal only pays anything meaningful if he plays for the City first team.
So basically still making a loss then...
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£350,000 for Lamb. Our academy is no different than other clubs. All 92 clubs have academies
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How much do you think it’s cost us to train a 10 year old?gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:57 pmAnd how much do you get for said 10 year old? Doubt it even covers the coaching.Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:26 pm Academy has just sold two ten year olds to Arsenal & Chelsea plus Teddie Lamb will be going in a few weeks
Saw someone mention this Lamb deal only pays anything meaningful if he plays for the City first team.
So basically still making a loss then...
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kelman is nowhere near championship level, he wouldnt get a game for Wycombe birmingham wrexham barnsley and probs Huddersfield so what makes qpr think that hes gonna play. hes the perfect richie wellens striker i reckon we should get him on a perm
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I agree the squad is thin up front but Dan’s injury was a twisted ankle. Nothing to do with fatigue. I actually think it might have stopped him being bought by another club. He was unplayable in his last few games.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:42 pmIt has to be quite close in thoughts. Personally, I think the Cambridge game could possibly have something to do with this latest lay off. In that game as you recall he ran himself into the ground with a fantastic performance. I think he stretched every sinew in his body on that day.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:50 pm At what point can we say Agyei is injury prone. It's his third significant knock since joining and there's no way you could pin the other two on being overworked.
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People who don’t think that heavy loads on players bodies make it more likely for them to suffer injuries is wild
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But of course it is.DrWindy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:08 pmDan’s injury was a twisted ankle. Nothing to do with fatigue.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:42 pmIt has to be quite close in thoughts. Personally, I think the Cambridge game could possibly have something to do with this latest lay off. In that game as you recall he ran himself into the ground with a fantastic performance. I think he stretched every sinew in his body on that day.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:50 pm At what point can we say Agyei is injury prone. It's his third significant knock since joining and there's no way you could pin the other two on being overworked.
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Doesn’t sound right that we sell 10 year olds!Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:42 pmHow much do you think it’s cost us to train a 10 year old?gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:57 pmAnd how much do you get for said 10 year old? Doubt it even covers the coaching.Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:26 pm Academy has just sold two ten year olds to Arsenal & Chelsea plus Teddie Lamb will be going in a few weeks
Saw someone mention this Lamb deal only pays anything meaningful if he plays for the City first team.
So basically still making a loss then...
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Richie would love to sign him because he thinks he could play for us in the Championship, hopefully next season!DelightInE10 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:21 pm kelman is nowhere near championship level, he wouldnt get a game for Wycombe birmingham wrexham barnsley and probs Huddersfield so what makes qpr think that hes gonna play. hes the perfect richie wellens striker i reckon we should get him on a perm
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Mmmm, please explain it to me. I can’t figure this one out.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:47 amBut of course it is.DrWindy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:08 pmDan’s injury was a twisted ankle. Nothing to do with fatigue.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:42 pm
It has to be quite close in thoughts. Personally, I think the Cambridge game could possibly have something to do with this latest lay off. In that game as you recall he ran himself into the ground with a fantastic performance. I think he stretched every sinew in his body on that day.
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Not really selling, they go, we just receive calculated compensation.Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:47 amDoesn’t sound right that we sell 10 year olds!Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:42 pmHow much do you think it’s cost us to train a 10 year old?
But I don't disagree with you.
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Martin Ling is an experienced and sharp operator. Wouldn't worry about QPR hoodwinking him
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Perry Combover wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:24 am
Martin Ling is an experienced and sharp operator. Wouldn't worry about QPR hoodwinking him
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Just been talking with my Spurs supporting mate at work and said he’s heard Spurs might be about to recall Donley because of their injury problems at the moment . Apparently Dan Scarlett has already been recalled from Oxford . Please God it doesn’t happen but be prepared.
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:06 pm Just been talking with my Spurs supporting mate at work and said he’s heard Spurs might be about to recall Donley because of their injury problems at the moment . Apparently Dan Scarlett has already been recalled from Oxford . Please God it doesn’t happen but be prepared.
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Sorry I don’t follow, what’s funny ?Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:16 pmRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:06 pm Just been talking with my Spurs supporting mate at work and said he’s heard Spurs might be about to recall Donley because of their injury problems at the moment . Apparently Dan Scarlett has already been recalled from Oxford . Please God it doesn’t happen but be prepared.
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If Spurs are so desperate for players they are going to recall a 20 year old who's been decent at league 1 level for little over a month, they would be truly screwed. But there is zero chance of that happening. They have loads of no. 10s who are fit and way above Donley's current level.
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Actually, that’s good to hear . Donley has become an important part of our team. Anyway, I’m only relaying what my friend told me at lunchtime so don’t shoot the messengerMistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:47 pm If Spurs are so desperate for players they are going to recall a 20 year old who's been decent at league 1 level for little over a month, they would be truly screwed. But there is zero chance of that happening. They have loads of no. 10s who are fit and way above Donley's current level.
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The idea that Spurs would recall Donley for their first team.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:43 pmSorry I don’t follow, what’s funny ?Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:16 pmRedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:06 pm Just been talking with my Spurs supporting mate at work and said he’s heard Spurs might be about to recall Donley because of their injury problems at the moment . Apparently Dan Scarlett has already been recalled from Oxford . Please God it doesn’t happen but be prepared.