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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:37 am
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:30 am
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:25 am Good to see journalists doing their job 👊🏻
Yes it is. Can't wait for them to do an expose on the Tufton Street operations.
What have you heard?
Only that the Mail, Telegraph, Times, Express, Sun and Sport are working hard together to find new ways of spreading Tufton St based propaganda through closer links with their astro turfed outlets
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God, I’m old. I can remember when one or two of those were newspapers.
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BoniO wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:56 am
Dohnut wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:50 am If she did as she said inform Starmer before being appointed, it questions the wisdom of that appointment. As shown by her resignation. Her on,y crime was being found out. Same for the CV error from our chancellor, quickly corrected.

More to come.
I'm sure you'll be one of the first to applaud the fact that she did the honourable thing and resigned. Unlike the last Government where, even when banged to rights guilty, Tory Ministers and MP's would hang on to their positions regardless.

Oh, and I haven't seen you post up your appreciation that this Government has reduced the levels of immigration? This must be an oversight I imagine.
Haven’t seen the immigration data. Fewer boats is good, Be interested to understand what they’ve done to achieve this. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction.

I say yet again, this whataboutery stuff is nonsense. I’m not trying to defend the Tories, simply that having listened to years of stuff pouring out of the mouths of the Labour folk, it’s interesting they are just as bad. If as suggested the lady in question disclosed this before being appointed then that is the issue. Doing the right thing once being found out is hardly noble.
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Max B Gold wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:35 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:37 am
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:30 am

Yes it is. Can't wait for them to do an expose on the Tufton Street operations.
What have you heard?
Only that the Mail, Telegraph, Times, Express, Sun and Sport are working hard together to find new ways of spreading Tufton St based propaganda through closer links with their astro turfed outlets
Not having to work too hard with Labour right now. But the media arm of the Labour Party, the BBC, are doing their best to add balance.
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Dohnut wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:05 pm
BoniO wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:56 am
Dohnut wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:50 am If she did as she said inform Starmer before being appointed, it questions the wisdom of that appointment. As shown by her resignation. Her on,y crime was being found out. Same for the CV error from our chancellor, quickly corrected.

More to come.
I'm sure you'll be one of the first to applaud the fact that she did the honourable thing and resigned. Unlike the last Government where, even when banged to rights guilty, Tory Ministers and MP's would hang on to their positions regardless.

Oh, and I haven't seen you post up your appreciation that this Government has reduced the levels of immigration? This must be an oversight I imagine.
Haven’t seen the immigration data. Fewer boats is good, Be interested to understand what they’ve done to achieve this. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction.

I say yet again, this whataboutery stuff is nonsense. I’m not trying to defend the Tories, simply that having listened to years of stuff pouring out of the mouths of the Labour folk, it’s interesting they are just as bad. If as suggested the lady in question disclosed this before being appointed then that is the issue. Doing the right thing once being found out is hardly noble.
You miss the point of convictions being spent and offenders being rehabilitated. It means that people who do stupid things when they are young don't wreck the rest of their lives.
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Dohnut wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:16 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:35 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:37 am

What have you heard?
Only that the Mail, Telegraph, Times, Express, Sun and Sport are working hard together to find new ways of spreading Tufton St based propaganda through closer links with their astro turfed outlets
Not having to work too hard with Labour right now. But the media arm of the Labour Party, the BBC, are doing their best to add balance.
Oh come on. This is Isthmian League level.
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Admin wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:25 pm Gotta hand it to Maffy - he can still reel some of you poor feckers in with his tedious nonsense.
8 days on.
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Hooking the centrist Dads and lefties alike with a success rate I could only dream of at my peak

To top it off he’s openly admitted it’s a WUM as well
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:35 pm Hooking the centrist Dads and lefties alike with a success rate I could only dream of at my peak

To top it off he’s openly admitted it’s a WUM as well
Yep. Counting down the minutes until he pops along with further bait.
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Admin wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:46 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:35 pm Hooking the centrist Dads and lefties alike with a success rate I could only dream of at my peak

To top it off he’s openly admitted it’s a WUM as well
Yep. Counting down the minutes until he pops along with further denials etc.
Well he wouldn't if you just ignored him
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:35 pm Hooking the centrist Dads and lefties alike with a success rate I could only dream of at my peak

To top it off he’s openly admitted it’s a WUM as well
It's just Bantz geezer.

I am however struggling with the idea that you had a peak. Mine was back in 2008. When was yours?
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Admin wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:28 pm
Admin wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:25 pm Gotta hand it to Maffy - he can still reel some of you poor feckers in with his tedious nonsense.
8 days on.
Tedious but true.
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Dohnut wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:16 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:35 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:37 am

What have you heard?
Only that the Mail, Telegraph, Times, Express, Sun and Sport are working hard together to find new ways of spreading Tufton St based propaganda through closer links with their astro turfed outlets
Not having to work too hard with Labour right now. But the media arm of the Labour Party, the BBC, are doing their best to add balance.
Laura K is a Lefty? :lol: :lol:
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BBC are obligated to try and show balance. A few employees do. But two Former Directors General have admitted a left wing bias. Pretty obvious. Of course even the Beeb try to hide it, and it does fool some. But it’s there.

A recent example was the BBC fact-checker report supporting Labour claims about Farmers, the one Starmer quoted. Turns out the fact-checker person was a fully paid up member of the Labour Party and had been for years. You think his views won’t be biased? Of coarse they are, in the interest of balance, and having been found out, ha has changed his mind, surprisingly.
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Jesus Christ, people are still replying to this guy? Come on.
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At least Labour got this bit right. Absolutely marvellous stuff.

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Proposition Joe wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:57 am Jesus Christ, people are still replying to this guy? Come on.
Pretty tough when people make political observations about a party that are an utter shambles, crashing and burning so quickly. Why would people respond with anything other than counter arguments. But of course they don’t exist right now. That’s gotta hurt.

For Labours popularity fall below the Tories is quite astonishing. And at speed.

Not much more to be said.
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You could get an AI chat bot to do this, no-one could tell the difference.
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Dohnut wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:49 am BBC are obligated to try and show balance. A few employees do. But two Former Directors General have admitted a left wing bias. Pretty obvious. Of course even the Beeb try to hide it, and it does fool some. But it’s there.

A recent example was the BBC fact-checker report supporting Labour claims about Farmers, the one Starmer quoted. Turns out the fact-checker person was a fully paid up member of the Labour Party and had been for years. You think his views won’t be biased? Of coarse they are, in the interest of balance, and having been found out, ha has changed his mind, surprisingly.
Do you not know what a fact is?
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Proposition Joe wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:50 am You could get an AI chat bot to do this, no-one could tell the difference.
Nah, an AI Bot would be waaay better than Doh-boy
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BoniO wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:43 pm
Proposition Joe wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:50 am You could get an AI chat bot to do this, no-one could tell the difference.
Nah, an AI Bot would be waaay better than Doh-boy
An AI Bot would agree with what I've said. A shambles is a shambles, and the polls don't lie. I've always said I'm up for reasonable counter arguments. Done it many times in the boardroom. Not my fault people don't seem to have any.

As I said, not much more to be said.
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Oh sh*t.
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People don’t have any boardrooms?
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Five months in and we’re already at the Rishi Sunak key pledges stage :~


https://www.thetimes.com/article/553a85 ... b7c0593372
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Dohnut wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:16 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 1:35 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:37 am

What have you heard?
Only that the Mail, Telegraph, Times, Express, Sun and Sport are working hard together to find new ways of spreading Tufton St based propaganda through closer links with their astro turfed outlets
Not having to work too hard with Labour right now. But the media arm of the Labour Party, the BBC, are doing their best to add balance.
Not working too hard would seem very familiar to you.
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