HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

[faith1234]

How long has he got left I do like Richie but he has been let down bye the lack of recruitment and sorry to say this but the owners have to take some of the blame

[gshaw]

Richie has proven he can be successful with us when given the resources he asks for. If change is to be made I wouldn't be starting with the manager.

I don't think any other manager in League 1 could do much better with the squad he's been handed.

[DrWindy]

NT said just the other night that the recruitment has been poor and there will be changes in January. I don’t believe the club want to lose our League One status. Let’s see what happens over the coming weeks.

[Pugwash]

How long has he got left I do like Richie but he has been let down bye the lack of recruitment and sorry to say this but the owners have to take some of the blame

As long as he wants to be here.

[essexfootball]

Can't constantly blame recruitment, there are about 15 very very average teams in this league

[Token]

Richie is far from perfect. He needs to improve his sideline discipline, be less rigid in his ideas and be less loyal to certain players. And plenty of other things.

But he is also the best and most likeable manager we have had in my 40 plus years of supporting Orient. Even if we were to get relegated, which I don’t think we will, I would still want him here next season.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Richie has proven he can be successful with us when given the resources he asks for. If change is to be made I wouldn't be starting with the manager.

I don't think any other manager in League 1 could do much better with the squad he's been handed.

I've it before and I'll say it again , Richie is one of the best managers this club has ever had . If Richie left we'd get relegated for sure . I don't blame the manager for our blight , I blame the board . Our recruitment during the Summer was pants . You could see we were going to hit trouble by the calibre of signings we were making . TBH, I can't see our recruitment being any better in January so we're in deep sh*t this season .

[Rich Tea Wellin]

At least a few years more hopefully

[RedDwarf 1881]

How long has he got left I do like Richie but he has been let down bye the lack of recruitment and sorry to say this but the owners have to take some of the blame

As long as he wants to be here.

Which I hope is for a very long time. Even if we go down I want him to stay . Our manager isn't the problem . it's been the standard of our recruitment.

[DrWindy]

Richie has proven he can be successful with us when given the resources he asks for. If change is to be made I wouldn't be starting with the manager.

I don't think any other manager in League 1 could do much better with the squad he's been handed.

I've it before and I'll say it again , Richie is one of the best managers this club has ever had . If Richie left we'd get relegated for sure . I don't blame the manager for our blight , I blame the board . Our recruitment during the Summer was pants . You could see we were going to hit trouble by the calibre of signings we were making . TBH, I can't see our recruitment being any better in January so we're in deep sh*t this season .

Why blame the board for our recruitment?

[RedDwarf 1881]

Can't constantly blame recruitment, there are about 15 very very average teams in this league

But do they have the injuries we have . Both our first choice wingers are out long term plus our best midfielder won't be back until around roughly Christmas time .

[RedDwarf 1881]

Richie has proven he can be successful with us when given the resources he asks for. If change is to be made I wouldn't be starting with the manager.

I don't think any other manager in League 1 could do much better with the squad he's been handed.

I've it before and I'll say it again , Richie is one of the best managers this club has ever had . If Richie left we'd get relegated for sure . I don't blame the manager for our blight , I blame the board . Our recruitment during the Summer was pants . You could see we were going to hit trouble by the calibre of signings we were making . TBH, I can't see our recruitment being any better in January so we're in deep sh*t this season .

Why blame the board for our recruitment?

Lack of funds . We couldn't compete during the Summer in the transfer market and so now we can't compete on the pitch . I'm not talking about the likes of Birmingham and Wrexham but clubs like Mansfield and Bristol Rovers who we couldn't compete with . Now we're paying for it .

[DrWindy]

I've it before and I'll say it again , Richie is one of the best managers this club has ever had . If Richie left we'd get relegated for sure . I don't blame the manager for our blight , I blame the board . Our recruitment during the Summer was pants . You could see we were going to hit trouble by the calibre of signings we were making . TBH, I can't see our recruitment being any better in January so we're in deep sh*t this season .

Why blame the board for our recruitment?

Lack of funds . We couldn't compete during the Summer in the transfer market and so now we can't compete on the pitch . I'm not talking about the likes of Birmingham and Wrexham but clubs like Mansfield and Bristol Rovers who we couldn't compete with . Now we're paying for it .

Yeah I am not sure I agree. The signings we have brought in have been poor. Not sure that’s the board though. I think money has been wasted. We have signed some good players over the years on a smaller budget so I would be looking elsewhere.

[Pugwash]

How long has he got left I do like Richie but he has been let down bye the lack of recruitment and sorry to say this but the owners have to take some of the blame

As long as he wants to be here.

Which I hope is for a very long time. Even if we go down I want him to stay . Our manager isn't the problem . it's been the standard of our recruitment.

Thats Nice

[gshaw]

Lack of funds . We couldn't compete during the Summer in the transfer market and so now we can't compete on the pitch . I'm not talking about the likes of Birmingham and Wrexham but clubs like Mansfield and Bristol Rovers who we couldn't compete with . Now we're paying for it .

Taking the board at their word of it being 15/24 sized budget, that should surely get you more than 6 loanees with half of them being first time loans (which Richie has stated he doesn't favour)

Think it was said weeks back we were fielding the youngest average age squad in the league, that's a choice and not one working in our favour.

There's also a long running trope of the recruitment team signing players with poor injury records hoping to get lucky (Callum Reilly anyone?), it's not just bad luck.

The buck stops with the DoF, it's his responsibility so needs to either perform better or be replaced with someone with fresh ideas.

[Long slender neck]

I'm not sure about this conspiracy theory that wellens isnt to blame for our summer recruitment failure. I don't think another manager could do much better with this squad, but it is Richies squad. How can we have a 15th sized budget but not afford anyone?

[Bandy Legs]

Lack of funds . We couldn't compete during the Summer in the transfer market and so now we can't compete on the pitch . I'm not talking about the likes of Birmingham and Wrexham but clubs like Mansfield and Bristol Rovers who we couldn't compete with . Now we're paying for it .

Taking the board at their word of it being 15/24 sized budget, that should surely get you more than 6 loanees with half of them being first time loans (which Richie has stated he doesn't favour)

Think it was said weeks back we were fielding the youngest average age squad in the league, that's a choice and not one working in our favour.

There's also a long running trope of the recruitment team signing players with poor injury records hoping to get lucky (Callum Reilly anyone?), it's not just bad luck.

The buck stops with the DoF, it's his responsibility so needs to either perform better or be replaced with someone with fresh ideas.

6 loanees gives us cover all over the pitch.
Bring in only 2 players on contracts we lose cover.
Hemming being sh*t didn't help so we had to get Keely .

[gshaw]

6 loanees gives us cover all over the pitch.
Bring in only 2 players on contracts we lose cover.
Hemming being sh*t didn't help so we had to get Keely .

Comes back to whether they're actually good enough to be useful though or just padding out bench places.

Hemming - no comment
Keeley - promising
Currie - good (though should be signing a permanent LB)
Donley - first time loan, struggling
Perkins - first time loan to all intents, struggling
Kelman - current top scorer

So would you take 3 loanees and one quality pro or those 6 but only half are really performing at the level required.

The other thing Richie has touched on is come summer you also end up with far too much squad churn, especially in those spine positions like the GK and LB. Think it works out we'll need10+ players come summer between loans and contracts ending.

[Bandy Legs]

6 loanees gives us cover all over the pitch.
Bring in only 2 players on contracts we lose cover.
Hemming being sh*t didn't help so we had to get Keely .

Comes back to whether they're actually good enough to be useful though or just padding out bench places.

Hemming - no comment
Keeley - promising
Currie - good (though should be signing a permanent LB)
Donley - first time loan, struggling
Perkins - first time loan to all intents, struggling
Kelman - current top scorer

So would you take 3 loanees and one quality pro or those 6 but only half are really performing at the level required.

The other thing Richie has touched on is come summer you also end up with far too much squad churn, especially in those spine positions like the GK and LB. Think it works out we'll need10+ players come summer between loans and contracts ending.

Not my job & they can only go by what the likes of Spurs tell us. Donley is raved about, but it's L1 mens Football not Prem youth, yet Keely is flying.
Charlie Savage was great at Reading last season 1st year loan. Danny Mills boy another 1st loan also great in L1.
We can't tell how good a young loanee will be.
Currie had Wimbledon experience & was great hence
Oxford buying him.
What we need is competitors

[gshaw]

I think the raving by Spurs hasn't done Donley any favours. Seems like he's had to come down to earth with a bump seeing what real men's pro football is like.

[Hoover Attack]

Richie should be here as long as he wants.

Ling, Foster and whoever else is involved in our recruitment need questions asked of them. Imagine having Perkins as a starter in your L1 side then wondering why you’re not picking up points.

[Hoover Attack]

Not my job & they can only go by what the likes of Spurs tell us. Donley is raved about, but it's L1 mens Football not Prem youth,

I’d hope our recruitment involves actually looking at the players ourselves, not just asking the club how good their player is….

[North Stand Dave]

FAITH, you obviously don't like Ritchie as every time we lose you always post 'How long has Ritchie got?'
Do you just copy and paste this?
Same on another thread as well.
So bright spark, let's say the club sack Ritchie, who better who's available would you replace him with?
At least when he loses you can change the name from Ritchie in your boring message.

[PoundhillO]

Can't constantly blame recruitment, there are about 15 very very average teams in this league

Recruitment is down to unrealistic budget needed to bring in the quality of players needed at this level, that’s totally down to NT.You can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear, in my opinion NT is way out of his depth and should have looked for massive investment as soon as we were promoted to League 1.

[Bandy Legs]

Not my job & they can only go by what the likes of Spurs tell us. Donley is raved about, but it's L1 mens Football not Prem youth,

I’d hope our recruitment involves actually looking at the players ourselves, not just asking the club how good their player is….

Donley was looked at in the JE Cup