Harris v. Trump
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Re: Harris v. Trump
The UK Labour party aren't the only ones to have committed a diplomatic faux pas.
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That Zelenskyy a bigger liability than Trump for sure. He is an inexperienced maniac.
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We can expect loads more of this codswallop. Meaningless soundbites and phrases uttered without any substance from a political class who still sleep under a pre-2008 comfort blanket.
I mean, what does "pro-climate" or "pro-women" even mean?
I mean, what does "pro-climate" or "pro-women" even mean?
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The most depressing element here is how far we are away from a society in which most people (including myself in this) can:
- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others
I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.
- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others
I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.
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Re: Harris v. Trump
Probably the most clear-headed post I’ve ever seen on hereWally Banter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:04 am The most depressing element here is how far we are away from a society in which most people (including myself in this) can:
- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others
I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.
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UK really pissing in the wind now, USA free trade deal was the big 'prize' of Brexit. Instead we're going to get hammered by trade tariffs without an economic bloc to attach ourselves to as the world gets a lot more protectionist.
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Agreed this is the state of things but it’s not by chance.Wally Banter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:04 am The most depressing element here is how far we are away from a society in which most people (including myself in this) can:
- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others
I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.
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Yep. “We’ve had enough of experts” springs to mind.
Trump has always just been someone who happened to be very well placed to benefit from what Wally says
Trump has always just been someone who happened to be very well placed to benefit from what Wally says
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Of course; what powerful person would want a politically educated public?Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:16 amAgreed this is the state of things but it’s not by chance.Wally Banter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:04 am The most depressing element here is how far we are away from a society in which most people (including myself in this) can:
- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others
I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.
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So, who is against a climate? That suggests there are people who think a climate is a bad idea.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:20 am‘Pro’ means for. It comes from the Latin word ‘pro’, which means ‘for’.
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It’s bollocks - trump is clearly very pro-womenDunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:25 amSo, who is against a climate? That suggests there are people who think a climate is a bad idea.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:20 am‘Pro’ means for. It comes from the Latin word ‘pro’, which means ‘for’.
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That's because we have the wrong party in power .Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:15 am UK really pissing in the wind now, USA free trade deal was the big 'prize' of Brexit. Instead we're going to get hammered by trade tariffs without an economic bloc to attach ourselves to as the world gets a lot more protectionist.
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Not sure where you’re going with this?Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:25 amSo, who is against a climate? That suggests there are people who think a climate is a bad idea.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:20 am‘Pro’ means for. It comes from the Latin word ‘pro’, which means ‘for’.
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Actually , I'm amazed Harris managed to get as many votes as she did . Ah, latest score has just come up on TV 276 for Trump 219 for Harris .
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Has she actually managed to perform worse than Biden did in the last election in every county?
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I don't know but I don't think Biden could have done any worse . Bloke on TV has just said Trump blew it out the park
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Well done to Trump and the Republicans, who won well. A victory for fascists, Nazis and garbage everywhere.
Hard not to feel sympathy for the Democrat leadership and liberal elite who chose probably the only person who could have lost to Trump. They put identity politics above competence and have paid the price.
Hard not to feel sympathy for the Democrat leadership and liberal elite who chose probably the only person who could have lost to Trump. They put identity politics above competence and have paid the price.
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The problem is there's no point branding your political opponents things like that while having no answers for fixing the problems that you , yourself created . Trump is back in power because of the failure of left wing policies . Edit . I agree with your second point . I don't think the Democrats could have chosen a worse candidate who in turn chose the worse running mate . I still believe anybody half decent who actually knew what they were talking about would have given Trump a much tougher racefaldO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:43 am Well done to Trump and the Republicans, who won well. A victory for fascists, Nazis and garbage everywhere.
Hard not to feel sympathy for the Democrat leadership and liberal elite who chose probably the only person who could have lost to Trump. They put identity politics above competence and have paid the price.
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