Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Moderator: Long slender neck
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1685
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:34 pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 299 times
Can’t afford to sack Wellens
The best we’ve had in a very long time. The board apparently said they will back him in the transfer market and then dump on him. He’s been given rubbish players that cost nothing because we can’t compete with BIG clubs and they expect him to perform miracles.
The club have no money to buy players, so how can they afford to pay him off?
Nigel has been living in dreamland.
The club have no money to buy players, so how can they afford to pay him off?
Nigel has been living in dreamland.
- The Reverend
- Bored office worker
- Posts: 2250
- Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:12 pm
- Has thanked: 814 times
- Been thanked: 933 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
If you look at the 3 permanent managers since Justin passed a pattern emerges:
1. Fletcher: correctly identified that the squad needed improvement which the club establishment (Ling et al) didn’t like. He was swiftly forced out
2. Jackett: results took a huge dip after a disastrous January transfer window filled with bargain bin signings and crap loans. Cost KJ his job
3. Wellens: well and truly stitched up after signing a new contract with a disastrous summer transfer window which followed a terrible January window. And it looks like RW is about to be the next one out the door.
1. Fletcher: correctly identified that the squad needed improvement which the club establishment (Ling et al) didn’t like. He was swiftly forced out
2. Jackett: results took a huge dip after a disastrous January transfer window filled with bargain bin signings and crap loans. Cost KJ his job
3. Wellens: well and truly stitched up after signing a new contract with a disastrous summer transfer window which followed a terrible January window. And it looks like RW is about to be the next one out the door.
-
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 7698
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3391 times
- Been thanked: 1750 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Indeed and it's a waste of time sacking another manager anyway. Jackett got given a series of terrible signings and look what his sacking cost.
Save the money of yet another settlement and make changes at the top as recruitment is clearly not good enough.
Edit: got it spot on Reverend, this pattern needs to break
Save the money of yet another settlement and make changes at the top as recruitment is clearly not good enough.
Edit: got it spot on Reverend, this pattern needs to break
-
- Bored office worker
- Posts: 2161
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:41 am
- Has thanked: 391 times
- Been thanked: 433 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Totally agree 100%.cockhat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:41 pm The best we’ve had in a very long time. The board apparently said they will back him in the transfer market and then dump on him. He’s been given rubbish players that cost nothing because we can’t compete with BIG clubs and they expect him to perform miracles.
The club have no money to buy players, so how can they afford to pay him off?
Nigel has been living in dreamland.
-
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 7698
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3391 times
- Been thanked: 1750 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Ling, Foster and whoever else is involved in that recruitment team all well past their sell-by date. Give Wellens control and then he can sink or swim on his own merits
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1685
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:34 pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 299 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Absolutely!
-
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 5960
- Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:12 am
- Has thanked: 5589 times
- Been thanked: 1071 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Thing is if Wellens is doing his managers job, he cannot be off scouting for players as well and also arranging the new and existing player contracts.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1685
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:34 pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 299 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
If LING has to stay let him just do the paperwork ( please sign on the dotted line ) - don’t let him give any advice on who to sign! RW doesn’t have to scout - he knows a good player - all he has to do is say yes or no to any players offered to him.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:16 pmThing is if Wellens is doing his managers job, he cannot be off scouting for players as well and also arranging the new and existing player contracts.
-
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12502
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:06 am
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 2555 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
II'll make this prediction. If Richie gets the sack we will definitely 100% get relegated this season .The Reverend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:50 pm If you look at the 3 permanent managers since Justin passed a pattern emerges:
1. Fletcher: correctly identified that the squad needed improvement which the club establishment (Ling et al) didn’t like. He was swiftly forced out
2. Jackett: results took a huge dip after a disastrous January transfer window filled with bargain bin signings and crap loans. Cost KJ his job
3. Wellens: well and truly stitched up after signing a new contract with a disastrous summer transfer window which followed a terrible January window. And it looks like RW is about to be the next one out the door.
Last edited by RedDwarf 1881 on Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 5960
- Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:12 am
- Has thanked: 5589 times
- Been thanked: 1071 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
You have to go and watch them play first, cant just go by players he used to have play for him as in the case of Jaiyesimi who once played for RW and rated highly !cockhat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:30 pmIf LING has to stay let him just do the paperwork ( please sign on the dotted line ) - don’t let him give any advice on who to sign! RW doesn’t have to scout - he knows a good player - all he has to do is say yes or no to any players offered to him.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:16 pmThing is if Wellens is doing his managers job, he cannot be off scouting for players as well and also arranging the new and existing player contracts.
-
- Bored office worker
- Posts: 2433
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:13 pm
- Has thanked: 244 times
- Been thanked: 1126 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
He won't be sacked until we look proper doomed. His new contract is big, the board love him and the situation we're in is not dissimilar to where we were this time last season.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1685
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:34 pm
- Has thanked: 54 times
- Been thanked: 299 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Sensible prediction.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:33 pmII'll make this prediction. If Richie gets the sack we will be definitely 100% get relegated this season .The Reverend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:50 pm If you look at the 3 permanent managers since Justin passed a pattern emerges:
1. Fletcher: correctly identified that the squad needed improvement which the club establishment (Ling et al) didn’t like. He was swiftly forced out
2. Jackett: results took a huge dip after a disastrous January transfer window filled with bargain bin signings and crap loans. Cost KJ his job
3. Wellens: well and truly stitched up after signing a new contract with a disastrous summer transfer window which followed a terrible January window. And it looks like RW is about to be the next one out the door.
If he gets who he wants in January we probably stay up.
-
- Fresh Alias
- Posts: 342
- Joined: Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:57 pm
- Has thanked: 30 times
- Been thanked: 155 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Why would we want to get rid of Wellens, best manager we've had since Russell Slade, no disrespect to Justin.
It's Martin Ling & the so called transfer committee we need to get rid of first.
Also who is out there anyway to replace Ritchie?
Easy for supporters to keep saying 'sack Ritchie' but they never back it up with who to replace him with
It's Martin Ling & the so called transfer committee we need to get rid of first.
Also who is out there anyway to replace Ritchie?
Easy for supporters to keep saying 'sack Ritchie' but they never back it up with who to replace him with
-
- Fresh Alias
- Posts: 304
- Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:37 pm
- Has thanked: 58 times
- Been thanked: 29 times
-
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 7698
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
- Has thanked: 3391 times
- Been thanked: 1750 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
JE and RW both right up there, both came into the club in similar circumstances needing to rescue a failing squad and both delivered their respective league titles. Can't call it between them on who would be better, sadly Justin never got his chance to shine in the EFL.North Stand Dave wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:51 pm Why would we want to get rid of Wellens, best manager we've had since Russell Slade, no disrespect to Justin.
It's Martin Ling & the so called transfer committee we need to get rid of first.
Also who is out there anyway to replace Ritchie?
Easy for supporters to keep saying 'sack Ritchie' but they never back it up with who to replace him with
When you have a manager who has delivered success clearly being hampered by the processes around him there's no point in changing the manager and leaving the rest as-is.
- Long slender neck
- MB Legend
- Posts: 14325
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
- Has thanked: 2511 times
- Been thanked: 3301 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
RW has misspent his budget
We need a winger and a forward
I doubt we can afford to sack him
We need a winger and a forward
I doubt we can afford to sack him
- Hoover Attack
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 5045
- Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:41 am
- Has thanked: 636 times
- Been thanked: 1271 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
It’s worrying that some people can’t see Wellens is the best manager we’ve had since Slade.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1480
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:58 am
- Has thanked: 812 times
- Been thanked: 382 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
NT is too soft on ML - needs to call him to account. We could do more if his salary was available for the squad. The honeymoon is well and truly OVER!
-
- Regular
- Posts: 3502
- Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:20 pm
- Has thanked: 645 times
- Been thanked: 866 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Wellens doesn’t deserve to be sacked, he’s doing better than most would with our sub standard squad.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:37 pm He won't be sacked until we look proper doomed. His new contract is big, the board love him and the situation we're in is not dissimilar to where we were this time last season.
Recruiting has been poor, it’s players that need replacing not the manager.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 3172
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:03 pm
- Has thanked: 1642 times
- Been thanked: 900 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Steve Davis was so memorable that his short reign is forgotten.The Reverend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:50 pm If you look at the 3 permanent managers since Justin passed a pattern emerges:
1. Fletcher: correctly identified that the squad needed improvement which the club establishment (Ling et al) didn’t like. He was swiftly forced out
2. Jackett: results took a huge dip after a disastrous January transfer window filled with bargain bin signings and crap loans. Cost KJ his job
3. Wellens: well and truly stitched up after signing a new contract with a disastrous summer transfer window which followed a terrible January window. And it looks like RW is about to be the next one out the door.
As for being stitched up, that is nonsense. Wellens knew the division and knew how much tougher it would be. After January he had control of the signings. I will stand by Wellens - who has produced the best football I've seen in 30 years here - until the naysayers force the board to let him go but you cannot ignore the part he's had to play in the signings over the summer. Kelman, Warrington, DJ and Ball are all his. Donley he would never have disagreed with (although he'd be disappointed by what he's got from him).
- Max B Gold
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12349
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:12 pm
- Has thanked: 989 times
- Been thanked: 2813 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Difference being one was semi successful and they other one is failing badly.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:52 pm It’s worrying that some people can’t see Wellens is the best manager we’ve had since Slade.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 3502
- Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:20 pm
- Has thanked: 645 times
- Been thanked: 866 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
It’s the players, or at least some of them that are failing and need replacing, Not RW.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:45 pmDifference being one was semi successful and they other one is failing badly.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:52 pm It’s worrying that some people can’t see Wellens is the best manager we’ve had since Slade.
We can’t afford to sack him anyway.
- Hoover Attack
- Boardin' 24/7
- Posts: 5045
- Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:41 am
- Has thanked: 636 times
- Been thanked: 1271 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
I wouldn’t say Slade failed badly. Granted he never won a title but reaching the play offs with that budget was commendable.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:45 pmDifference being one was semi successful and they other one is failing badly.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:52 pm It’s worrying that some people can’t see Wellens is the best manager we’ve had since Slade.
-
- Fresh Alias
- Posts: 57
- Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:58 am
- Been thanked: 11 times
Re: Can’t afford to sack Wellens
Realism is , no budget for major changes. I’d imagine one or two out and one in probably