The Budget

[Yanzi Gravy]

Wont anybody think about the poor 60-unit BTL investors? Having to sell their boat?

These two have obviously overstretched themselves . Nobody in their right mind would want that headache at their age. I cannot see how the budget has adversely affected them anyway. They must be mortgaged up to the hilt.

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

Shame they didn’t just close the tax loopholes on the trillionaire bankers then we wouldn’t have to raise NI contributions at all

Agreed but , how about not wasting billions on the Ukraine. If we are that desperate for money , why are we borrowing whilst throwing money away on senseless wars .

Not sure the Ukranians this the war is senseless.

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

Shame they didn’t just close the tax loopholes on the trillionaire bankers then we wouldn’t have to raise NI contributions at all

Agreed but , how about not wasting billions on the Ukraine. If we are that desperate for money , why are we borrowing whilst throwing money away on senseless wars .

Not sure the Ukranians think the war is senseless.

[Chelmsford Swimmer]

Well my question was aimed at Dohnut, who hasn’t responded yet, but why will “most suffer”? Raising min wage is going to help a lot of people, no?

Will it though. It’s good that it’s increased but so will prices to cover it. It’s just not that simple is it. I can’t remember a budget that’s made any meaningful difference to my life. Can you ?

I know it’s not simple but I still don’t why you think most will suffer.
Personally, I would have also made much bigger tax demands of the very rich and closed more tax loopholes, whilst increasing the number of bodies in HMRC to work cases. Maybe next time.

Not sure a budget that will cause higher inflation, increased mortgage rates, and higher unemployment, will do us many favours.

[Bandy Legs]

Tim Martin looks after drinkers everyday of the year, often with far more than a penny.

Go into most pub chains and it will be hard to identify the penny you save. You have more chance of saving by looking for small change on the floor , most people cannot be bothered to pick up on the way to the pub.

Tim Martin & his nearly expired slops. No Thanks

You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.

It cannot be ignored that on match days for Leyton Orient and West Ham , the George Wanstead (before it was sold this month) and the Walnut Tree Leytonstone is packed with fans having a few pints and a reasonably priced meal. I would imagine their branch near Mile End is packed too. Stay out of them and cut your nose to spite your face and languish in your myths and hearsay, there will be a spare seat for an appreciative customer.

Go into any takeaway or Fish & Chip shop up & down the country & you'll find awards all over the walls & windows.
A witherspoon award is like a Lidl carrier bag,. Easy to get

[Dunners]

Oops.

[Long slender neck]

Bloody magic numbers again, what cruel masters they are.

[Bandy Legs]

Oops.

Are we anywhere near the £30 billion Truss' budget cost?

[faldO]

Gilt yields up too. Not far to go to "crashing the economy" territory...

[Max B Gold]

If only Labour hadn't taken a £4m bribe

Oh, come on. £4m ain't a bribe. Unless it's the first instalment in a series of payments, £4m isn't worth getting out of bed for.

Are you saying they could have held out and got more from their rapacious venture capital friends for dropping their policy to tax the "carried interest" as income like it should be. Mugs.

[Bandy Legs]

Wow, so many new Financial experts on here

[Dunners]

If only Labour hadn't taken a £4m bribe

Oh, come on. £4m ain't a bribe. Unless it's the first instalment in a series of payments, £4m isn't worth getting out of bed for.

Are you saying they could have held out and got more from their rapacious venture capital friends for dropping their policy to tax the "carried interest" as income like it should be. Mugs.

It's what you and I would have done.

[BIGRON]

Tim Martin & his nearly expired slops. No Thanks

You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.

It cannot be ignored that on match days for Leyton Orient and West Ham , the George Wanstead (before it was sold this month) and the Walnut Tree Leytonstone is packed with fans having a few pints and a reasonably priced meal. I would imagine their branch near Mile End is packed too. Stay out of them and cut your nose to spite your face and languish in your myths and hearsay, there will be a spare seat for an appreciative customer.

Go into any takeaway or Fish & Chip shop up & down the country & you'll find awards all over the walls & windows.
A witherspoon award is like a Lidl carrier bag,. Easy to get

My local Fish and Chip shop only has flies and grease on its walls , I steer well clear of it ( and the local chinky ain't much better)

[Stowaway]

Tim Martin looks after drinkers everyday of the year, often with far more than a penny.

Go into most pub chains and it will be hard to identify the penny you save. You have more chance of saving by looking for small change on the floor , most people cannot be bothered to pick up on the way to the pub.

Tim Martin & his nearly expired slops. No Thanks

You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.

It cannot be ignored that on match days for Leyton Orient and West Ham , the George Wanstead (before it was sold this month) and the Walnut Tree Leytonstone is packed with fans having a few pints and a reasonably priced meal. I would imagine their branch near Mile End is packed too. Stay out of them and cut your nose to spite your face and languish in your myths and hearsay, there will be a spare seat for an appreciative customer.

As a long time CAMRA member I would rather drink my own piss than go into a Wetherspoons and give that cnut Martin any of my hard-earned.

[Bandy Legs]

You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.

It cannot be ignored that on match days for Leyton Orient and West Ham , the George Wanstead (before it was sold this month) and the Walnut Tree Leytonstone is packed with fans having a few pints and a reasonably priced meal. I would imagine their branch near Mile End is packed too. Stay out of them and cut your nose to spite your face and languish in your myths and hearsay, there will be a spare seat for an appreciative customer.

Go into any takeaway or Fish & Chip shop up & down the country & you'll find awards all over the walls & windows.
A witherspoon award is like a Lidl carrier bag,. Easy to get

My local Fish and Chip shop only has flies and grease on its walls , I steer well clear of it ( and the local chinky ain't much better)

There's always one Biggy

[George M]

So why are you so angry then?

I am not angry at the budget. It will make no difference to my circumstances.

For someone it makes no difference to, you're making a lot of noise about it.

Sorry , thought that’s what a forum was for. I will remember in future

[Bandy Legs]

I am not angry at the budget. It will make no difference to my circumstances.

For someone it makes no difference to, you're making a lot of noise about it.

Sorry , thought that’s what a forum was for. I will remember in future

Discussing things that really don't affect or bother you?
That's the point of a forum, Well I Never

[George M]

For someone it makes no difference to, you're making a lot of noise about it.

Sorry , thought that’s what a forum was for. I will remember in future

Discussing things that really don't affect or bother you?
That's the point of a forum, Well I Never

Strange way of thinking.

[Bandy Legs]

Sorry , thought that’s what a forum was for. I will remember in future

Discussing things that really don't affect or bother you?
That's the point of a forum, Well I Never

Strange way of thinking.

Discussing things that affect your life isn't strange, Discussing things that don't & have no bearing whatsoever is.

As an example I've not seen you mention once Sickle cell anemia. Why because it doesn't affect you in any way shape or form.

[Yanzi Gravy]

Tim Martin & his nearly expired slops. No Thanks

You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.

It cannot be ignored that on match days for Leyton Orient and West Ham , the George Wanstead (before it was sold this month) and the Walnut Tree Leytonstone is packed with fans having a few pints and a reasonably priced meal. I would imagine their branch near Mile End is packed too. Stay out of them and cut your nose to spite your face and languish in your myths and hearsay, there will be a spare seat for an appreciative customer.

Go into any takeaway or Fish & Chip shop up & down the country & you'll find awards all over the walls & windows.
A witherspoon award is like a Lidl carrier bag,. Easy to get

CAMRA (CAMPAIGN FOR REAL ALE) are an independent organisation) not connected to Wetherspoons. They are recognised up and down the UK as the ‘Authority’ on Real Ale. They do not issue awards lightly.

[Yanzi Gravy]

Tim Martin & his nearly expired slops. No Thanks

You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.

It cannot be ignored that on match days for Leyton Orient and West Ham , the George Wanstead (before it was sold this month) and the Walnut Tree Leytonstone is packed with fans having a few pints and a reasonably priced meal. I would imagine their branch near Mile End is packed too. Stay out of them and cut your nose to spite your face and languish in your myths and hearsay, there will be a spare seat for an appreciative customer.

As a long time CAMRA member I would rather drink my own piss than go into a Wetherspoons and give that cnut Martin any of my hard-earned.

You have a choice which is why wage UK is wonderful. Wooster Wetherspoons are very full of happy customers 365 days a year, the employ thousands of people and have save the pub industry in many respects.

[Bandy Legs]

You have succumbed to the myth and total lies propagated by competitors. Let me tell you in no uncertain terms, as a CAMRA member too, there is rarely anything wrong with Wetherspoons Ale. CAMRA have awarded the company numerous awards over the years in recognition of their supreme service to the public.

It cannot be ignored that on match days for Leyton Orient and West Ham , the George Wanstead (before it was sold this month) and the Walnut Tree Leytonstone is packed with fans having a few pints and a reasonably priced meal. I would imagine their branch near Mile End is packed too. Stay out of them and cut your nose to spite your face and languish in your myths and hearsay, there will be a spare seat for an appreciative customer.

Go into any takeaway or Fish & Chip shop up & down the country & you'll find awards all over the walls & windows.
A witherspoon award is like a Lidl carrier bag,. Easy to get

CAMRA (CAMPAIGN FOR REAL ALE) are an independent organisation) not connected to Wetherspoons. They are recognised up and down the UK as the ‘Authority’ on Real Ale. They do not issue awards lightly.

Go into any takeaway or Fish & Chip shop up & down the country & you'll find awards all over the walls & windows.
A witherspoon award is like a Lidl carrier bag,. Easy to get

These awards are not given out lightly !

[Max B Gold]

Oh, come on. £4m ain't a bribe. Unless it's the first instalment in a series of payments, £4m isn't worth getting out of bed for.

Are you saying they could have held out and got more from their rapacious venture capital friends for dropping their policy to tax the "carried interest" as income like it should be. Mugs.

It's what you and I would have done.

Looks like somebody else is just as annoyed as me.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... d-tax-perk

[E10EU]

Looks like somebody else is just as annoyed as me.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... d-tax-perk

So: a simple summary for us simpletons?
For months Starmer and Reeves have drummed it into us minions that there will be a harsh price to pay for Tory failure NOW but untold riches would materialise just before the next election ...... Yet the link above suggests that the private equity parasites (who produce nothing but cash in from others borrowing dependency) remain largely untouched and wage increases for real people will result in price increases imposed on real people ..... so basically real people will be no better off.

[Adz]

So then we need to ban private schools completely. That will never happen. We are way beyond that making a difference. Ill educated children become ill educated parents who produce more ill educated children. The mistakes in education, lack of funding , can be traced back to the last century. It will take another 50 years to pull it around if changes were made now. Putting VAT on private school education is vindictive

How so? It's a business providing a service and should be treated the same as everyone else.

It’s a tax on education.

If they're in it for the education they should be a not for profit organization and then they won't have to worry about it.