Not really. I buy a season ticket as I want to support the club, rather than responding to some vague promises that might flick my entitlement switch.cockhat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:26 pmgshaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:19 pmAnd for the youth loanees it makes no difference to them what happens to Orient, they're off at the end of the season regardless
Need to address this one, are the board straight up lying to fans when they say it's a mid-table budget for League 1?Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pm Have to say that our budget is killing us. Wycombe had Bakinson in midfield today he wasn't great but we tried to sign him in the summer and we could not compete with what Wycombe offered him. We desperately need an influx of money before January, send back two maybe three loanees and try and move on a couple of the squad in January and bring in Three or four players who can make a difference.
Shows how crap our scouting is they brought on Kone at half time eight goals this season and signed from the Essex Senior League. he looked way better than anything we have.
If they are telling porkies and running with a bottom 4 budget then relegation will be what they reap.
However if we've got a semi-decent budget we have to look at the recruitment issues that have been there since January and make changes further up as the performance has been really, really poor two windows on the trot.
I feel sorry for the season ticket holders, I think they were sucked in by Travis with the ‘you’ll be pleased’ with the signings over the next few weeks. The club made sure of receiving a tranche of money early to be spent where? All they’ve done is improve Hearn’s stadium.
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Perhaps NT too was sucked in as to the quality of the signings?cockhat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:26 pmgshaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:19 pmAnd for the youth loanees it makes no difference to them what happens to Orient, they're off at the end of the season regardless
Need to address this one, are the board straight up lying to fans when they say it's a mid-table budget for League 1?Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pm Have to say that our budget is killing us. Wycombe had Bakinson in midfield today he wasn't great but we tried to sign him in the summer and we could not compete with what Wycombe offered him. We desperately need an influx of money before January, send back two maybe three loanees and try and move on a couple of the squad in January and bring in Three or four players who can make a difference.
Shows how crap our scouting is they brought on Kone at half time eight goals this season and signed from the Essex Senior League. he looked way better than anything we have.
If they are telling porkies and running with a bottom 4 budget then relegation will be what they reap.
However if we've got a semi-decent budget we have to look at the recruitment issues that have been there since January and make changes further up as the performance has been really, really poor two windows on the trot.
I feel sorry for the season ticket holders, I think they were sucked in by Travis with the ‘you’ll be pleased’ with the signings over the next few weeks. The club made sure of receiving a tranche of money early to be spent where? All they’ve done is improve Hearn’s stadium.
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Getting a little bit bored of the "we're just ickle wickle Leyton Orient with a smol budget " line after every defeat.
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I never said we should sack him did I, but pointed out that even if the board wanted too it's not an option.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pmRichie isn't the one who needs sacking . The clubs board are the people who should look at themselves in the mirror.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:05 pm Having extended his contract I doubt we can afford to sack him.
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Good because in my opinion he doesn't deserve it .Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:46 pmI never said we should sack him did I, but pointed out that even if the board wanted too it's not an option.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pmRichie isn't the one who needs sacking . The clubs board are the people who should look at themselves in the mirror.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:05 pm Having extended his contract I doubt we can afford to sack him.
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Well done you.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:49 pmGood because in my opinion he doesn't deserve it .Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:46 pmI never said we should sack him did I, but pointed out that even if the board wanted too it's not an option.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pm
Richie isn't the one who needs sacking . The clubs board are the people who should look at themselves in the mirror.
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At the risk of sounding dumb, how would we know the budget of other clubs? Surely this is commercially sensitive information. I get we might find out afterwards when reporting is complete, but not beforehand. What am I missing?gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:19 pmAnd for the youth loanees it makes no difference to them what happens to Orient, they're off at the end of the season regardless
Need to address this one, are the board straight up lying to fans when they say it's a mid-table budget for League 1?Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:14 pm Have to say that our budget is killing us. Wycombe had Bakinson in midfield today he wasn't great but we tried to sign him in the summer and we could not compete with what Wycombe offered him. We desperately need an influx of money before January, send back two maybe three loanees and try and move on a couple of the squad in January and bring in Three or four players who can make a difference.
Shows how crap our scouting is they brought on Kone at half time eight goals this season and signed from the Essex Senior League. he looked way better than anything we have.
If they are telling porkies and running with a bottom 4 budget then relegation will be what they reap.
However if we've got a semi-decent budget we have to look at the recruitment issues that have been there since January and make changes further up as the performance has been really, really poor two windows on the trot.
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And all this may be true, but I doubt that is the attitude Boreham Wood will have next week. We have to work harder, be better and show some resilience. Punch above our weight. Plenty of clubs have done it over the years.EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:11 pm RW said in his post match interview that we have one of the lowest budgets in the league, which seems at odds which what I have heard from the club before, but he cited Wycombe’s players and that their squad is simply better and more experienced than us.
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You have to have heart , guts and determination for that . None of that was on show yesterday.DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:34 amAnd all this may be true, but I doubt that is the attitude Boreham Wood will have next week. We have to work harder, be better and show some resilience. Punch above our weight. Plenty of clubs have done it over the years.EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:11 pm RW said in his post match interview that we have one of the lowest budgets in the league, which seems at odds which what I have heard from the club before, but he cited Wycombe’s players and that their squad is simply better and more experienced than us.
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We looked beaten from the 4th minute yesterday when we went behind. Could have played on until next Saturday and not scored.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:45 amYou have to have heart , guts and determination for that . None of that was on show yesterday.DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:34 amAnd all this may be true, but I doubt that is the attitude Boreham Wood will have next week. We have to work harder, be better and show some resilience. Punch above our weight. Plenty of clubs have done it over the years.EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:11 pm RW said in his post match interview that we have one of the lowest budgets in the league, which seems at odds which what I have heard from the club before, but he cited Wycombe’s players and that their squad is simply better and more experienced than us.
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No need, you look at last seasons budgets released for tax reasons & base your next budget on that. Look at the other 23 clubs last financial years & you can easily work it out. There really is some low level intelligence amongst football fans
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Is it Nigels faul he is running out of Money?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:07 pmWhy ? This debacle is down to the clubs board for not backing him properly in the transfer market during the Summer . Going cheap with players like Perkins was never going to cut it .
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And it also gets very boring blaming the players and the owners after every abject, miserable, and mostly scoreless performances. Time to start pointing the finger at the manager.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:32 pm Getting a little bit bored of the "we're just ickle wickle Leyton Orient with a smol budget " line after every defeat.
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No but the fact remains we can't compete off the pitch . We definitely need new investment from somewhere or we'll start sliding backwardsBandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:36 pmIs it Nigels faul he is running out of Money?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:07 pmWhy ? This debacle is down to the clubs board for not backing him properly in the transfer market during the Summer . Going cheap with players like Perkins was never going to cut it .
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So you lied about the club not backing Ricky?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:10 pmNo but the fact remains we can't compete off the pitch . We definitely need new investment from somewhere or we'll start sliding backwardsBandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:36 pmIs it Nigels faul he is running out of Money?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:07 pm
Why ? This debacle is down to the clubs board for not backing him properly in the transfer market during the Summer . Going cheap with players like Perkins was never going to cut it .
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No .Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:21 pmSo you lied about the club not backing Ricky?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:10 pmNo but the fact remains we can't compete off the pitch . We definitely need new investment from somewhere or we'll start sliding backwards
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Really no need for that rudeness & tone of superiority It reflects poorly on you.Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:35 pmNo need, you look at last seasons budgets released for tax reasons & base your next budget on that. Look at the other 23 clubs last financial years & you can easily work it out. There really is some low level intelligence amongst football fans
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So why say " The Board are to blame for not backing Ricky" if its not Nigels fault he's running out of Money then how can you say its his fault?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:43 pmNo .Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:21 pmSo you lied about the club not backing Ricky?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:10 pm
No but the fact remains we can't compete off the pitch . We definitely need new investment from somewhere or we'll start sliding backwards
He's either not backing Ricky or lying about running out of Money. It can't be both.
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Blaming Nigel for not being rich enough reflects badly on Orient fans & their rudeness towards 2 men who saved Orient from oblivion. I understand your point but kettle & Pot being black eh. Fair is fair, at least I've made a suggestion to Nigel on how to bring extra finance into Orient. This lot are caning him for not being rich enough.VeganO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:08 pmReally no need for that rudeness & tone of superiority It reflects poorly on you.Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:35 pmNo need, you look at last seasons budgets released for tax reasons & base your next budget on that. Look at the other 23 clubs last financial years & you can easily work it out. There really is some low level intelligence amongst football fans
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It’s my belief that it’s Nigel’s fault for not doing his homework with foresight when we were promoted into League 1 in not realising that he would not have sufficient funds for the team to have sufficient budget to progress any further or possibly be relegated.That being the case Nigel should have looked for massive investors s soon as the club were assured points wise of promotion.Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:36 pmIs it Nigels faul he is running out of Money?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:07 pmWhy ? This debacle is down to the clubs board for not backing him properly in the transfer market during the Summer . Going cheap with players like Perkins was never going to cut it .
We need investors that will sufficiently fund the team for promotion in the very short term and a move to a new ground in the long term.
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He's said after winning the National League title if we looked like getting to league 1 investment would be sought. If he's to blame for anything it's looking at the wrong type of financial backingPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:02 pmIt’s my belief that it’s Nigel’s fault for not doing his homework with foresight when we were promoted into League 1 in not realising that he would not have sufficient funds for the team to have sufficient budget to progress any further or possibly be relegated.That being the case Nigel should have looked for massive investors s soon as the club were assured points wise of promotion.Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:36 pmIs it Nigels faul he is running out of Money?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:07 pm
Why ? This debacle is down to the clubs board for not backing him properly in the transfer market during the Summer . Going cheap with players like Perkins was never going to cut it .
We need investors that will sufficiently fund the team for promotion in the very short term and a move to a new ground in the long term.
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If that was the case he made a very poor attempt after winning the National League and couldn’t have got the expert advice in that field to make it happen,Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:07 pmHe's said after winning the National League title if we looked like getting to league 1 investment would be sought. If he's to blame for anything it's looking at the wrong type of financial backingPoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:02 pmIt’s my belief that it’s Nigel’s fault for not doing his homework with foresight when we were promoted into League 1 in not realising that he would not have sufficient funds for the team to have sufficient budget to progress any further or possibly be relegated.That being the case Nigel should have looked for massive investors s soon as the club were assured points wise of promotion.
We need investors that will sufficiently fund the team for promotion in the very short term and a move to a new ground in the long term.
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We don’t know how he went about it. Investors with the wealth you think we need are not easy to find
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Depends on whether he did or did not get the expert advice needed in that field, maybe he thought he could manage it thinking he had the necessary contacts.Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm We don’t know how he went about it. Investors with the wealth you think we need are not easy to find