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He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
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B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
The sort of comment you would expect from a man who is completely out of touch with the needs and aspiration of the average working class people of the UK.
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Why?
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More in touch than Richi Sunak for sure.
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B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
Yes. Occasionally.
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Sid Bishop wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:38 pm
B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
The sort of comment you would expect from a man who is completely out of touch with the needs and aspiration of the average working class people of the UK.
that's a bit harsh on B.whitehouse+10more
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Not exactly one to bat for SirKeir but we still regularly refer to paychecks, even when people just get money straight into their account, so only a very silly person would say using the word 'cheque' shows he's out of touch.

Just pick one of the hundred other reasons you can hammer him for.
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B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?
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I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
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Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pm
B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?
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Proposition Joe wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:56 pm Not exactly one to bat for SirKeir but we still regularly refer to paychecks, even when people just get money straight into their account, so only a very silly person would say using the word 'cheque' shows he's out of touch.

Just pick one of the hundred other reasons you can hammer him for.
Where has anyone said he’s out of touch, it’s just a quote he has made that I posted, it was a general question to the board asking does anyone still use a cheque book. LSN appears to have taken exception to it why ?
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Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pm
B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?
I never intimidated “people's don’t use cheque book’s anymore “ it was a question asking does anyone still use chequebooks, when it’s much easier to do transactions online.
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intimated? The quality of the literacy on this Board has been really good of late.
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My remaining cheques are in a nice, faux-leather LOFC cover sleeve.
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B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:36 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pm
B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?
I never intimidated “people's don’t use cheque book’s anymore “ it was a question asking does anyone still use chequebooks, when it’s much easier to do transactions online.
You titled a topic 'Starmers definition of WorkingClass' because you want to know if orient fans use cheque books?
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Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
What tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.
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Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:24 pm
B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:36 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pm

Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?
I never intimidated “people's don’t use cheque book’s anymore “ it was a question asking does anyone still use chequebooks, when it’s much easier to do transactions online.
You titled a topic 'Starmers definition of WorkingClass' because you want to know if orient fans use cheque books?
Yes does that surprise you ? Not every one has an underlying agenda. Are you having a bad day 😂
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Starmer worries me because he’s pushing this agenda of punishing aspiration. Anyone who has worked hard, saved money, paid tax throughout their careers is open season for Labour’s apparent Rules for Being Lazy and Indolent at the taxpayers expense.
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ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:52 pm Starmer worries me because he’s pushing this agenda of punishing aspiration. Anyone who has worked hard, saved money, paid tax throughout their careers is open season for Labour’s apparent Rules for Being Lazy and Indolent at the taxpayers expense.
Punishing aspiration is literally the very definition of the Labour Party. It’s not a surprise.
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ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
What tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.
Landlords make no positive contribution to the housing market. They are all greedy parasites.
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B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:18 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pm
B.whitehouse+10more wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".

Anyone still use a cheque book ?
Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?
Less trees get cut down 🙂
Proper Smarmy bunch of toe rags n'all.
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ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
What tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.
I have a contrary opinion of landlords. They are a detriment to the housing market; who lower standards in order to maximise profits and overlook anything other then basic service provision. Its a generalisation on the sector I know - but most landlords would not live in the maintained quality of property they have tenanted.
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ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
What tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.
They might be working class but being an amateur landlord isnt 'working'. Its not taxed or regulated enough and its massively profitable.
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LittleMate wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:17 pm
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
What tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.
I have a contrary opinion of landlords. They are a detriment to the housing market; who lower standards in order to maximise profits and overlook anything other then basic service provision. Its a generalisation on the sector I know - but most landlords would not live in the maintained quality of property they have tenanted.
A sweeping generalisation of epic proportion, but anyway- seeing as you've decided 'most' would not live in their own properties......

How many landlords (rounded up to the nearest hundred) do you know personally, and have visited their propertys, in order to reach this conclusion?

If the answer is under "thousands and thousands", then you've done no more than take a wild, baseless, guess.
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Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:23 pm
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pm
Long slender neck wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
What tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.
They might be working class but being an amateur landlord isnt 'working'. Its not taxed or regulated enough and its massively profitable.
Spoken like a true generaliser with a bit of envy chucked in. The vast majority of small landlords struggle to make it pay at all. This is why they are quitting the market in droves. Of course there are bad landlords but there are also bad tenants too. Just slagging off the whole sector in this way is unreasonable.
Before you make any more assumptions - no I’m not a landlord.
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