Starmers definition of WorkingClass
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Starmers definition of WorkingClass
He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
Anyone still use a cheque book ?
Anyone still use a cheque book ?
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
The sort of comment you would expect from a man who is completely out of touch with the needs and aspiration of the average working class people of the UK.B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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Yes. Occasionally.B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
Anyone still use a cheque book ?
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
that's a bit harsh on B.whitehouse+10moreSid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:38 pmThe sort of comment you would expect from a man who is completely out of touch with the needs and aspiration of the average working class people of the UK.B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
Not exactly one to bat for SirKeir but we still regularly refer to paychecks, even when people just get money straight into their account, so only a very silly person would say using the word 'cheque' shows he's out of touch.
Just pick one of the hundred other reasons you can hammer him for.
Just pick one of the hundred other reasons you can hammer him for.
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
Less trees get cut downLong slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pmIs 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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Where has anyone said he’s out of touch, it’s just a quote he has made that I posted, it was a general question to the board asking does anyone still use a cheque book. LSN appears to have taken exception to it why ?Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:56 pm Not exactly one to bat for SirKeir but we still regularly refer to paychecks, even when people just get money straight into their account, so only a very silly person would say using the word 'cheque' shows he's out of touch.
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I never intimidated “people's don’t use cheque book’s anymore “ it was a question asking does anyone still use chequebooks, when it’s much easier to do transactions online.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pmIs 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
intimated? The quality of the literacy on this Board has been really good of late.
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My remaining cheques are in a nice, faux-leather LOFC cover sleeve.
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
You titled a topic 'Starmers definition of WorkingClass' because you want to know if orient fans use cheque books?B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:36 pmI never intimidated “people's don’t use cheque book’s anymore “ it was a question asking does anyone still use chequebooks, when it’s much easier to do transactions online.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pmIs 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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What tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
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Yes does that surprise you ? Not every one has an underlying agenda. Are you having a bad dayLong slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:24 pmYou titled a topic 'Starmers definition of WorkingClass' because you want to know if orient fans use cheque books?B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:36 pmI never intimidated “people's don’t use cheque book’s anymore “ it was a question asking does anyone still use chequebooks, when it’s much easier to do transactions online.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pm
Is 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?
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Starmer worries me because he’s pushing this agenda of punishing aspiration. Anyone who has worked hard, saved money, paid tax throughout their careers is open season for Labour’s apparent Rules for Being Lazy and Indolent at the taxpayers expense.
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Punishing aspiration is literally the very definition of the Labour Party. It’s not a surprise.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:52 pm Starmer worries me because he’s pushing this agenda of punishing aspiration. Anyone who has worked hard, saved money, paid tax throughout their careers is open season for Labour’s apparent Rules for Being Lazy and Indolent at the taxpayers expense.
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Re: Starmers definition of WorkingClass
Landlords make no positive contribution to the housing market. They are all greedy parasites.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pmWhat tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
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Proper Smarmy bunch of toe rags n'all.B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:18 pmLess trees get cut downLong slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:57 pmIs 'people dont use cheque books anymore' really your main takeaway from this?B.whitehouse+10more wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:24 pm He said he thought of a working person as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties".
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I have a contrary opinion of landlords. They are a detriment to the housing market; who lower standards in order to maximise profits and overlook anything other then basic service provision. Its a generalisation on the sector I know - but most landlords would not live in the maintained quality of property they have tenanted.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pmWhat tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
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They might be working class but being an amateur landlord isnt 'working'. Its not taxed or regulated enough and its massively profitable.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pmWhat tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
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A sweeping generalisation of epic proportion, but anyway- seeing as you've decided 'most' would not live in their own properties......LittleMate wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:17 pmI have a contrary opinion of landlords. They are a detriment to the housing market; who lower standards in order to maximise profits and overlook anything other then basic service provision. Its a generalisation on the sector I know - but most landlords would not live in the maintained quality of property they have tenanted.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pmWhat tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
How many landlords (rounded up to the nearest hundred) do you know personally, and have visited their propertys, in order to reach this conclusion?
If the answer is under "thousands and thousands", then you've done no more than take a wild, baseless, guess.
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Spoken like a true generaliser with a bit of envy chucked in. The vast majority of small landlords struggle to make it pay at all. This is why they are quitting the market in droves. Of course there are bad landlords but there are also bad tenants too. Just slagging off the whole sector in this way is unreasonable.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:23 pmThey might be working class but being an amateur landlord isnt 'working'. Its not taxed or regulated enough and its massively profitable.ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:47 pmWhat tripe. A lot of landlords are working class citizens who have actually made a huge contribution to the housing market in the a sense of any natiobb no al strategy to provide decent social housing. It is a heavily taxed and regulated market and certainly not dominated by parasites.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:58 pm I guess what Sir Kier is saying is that parasites taking money from assets like a rental property isnt real work. And he's right.
Before you make any more assumptions - no I’m not a landlord.