Exiles thread - Lincoln C (A)

[gshaw]

Does this bloke have any ideas how to run a successful league 1 football team?

Wellens took us from the 4th tier of football to the 3rd tier and many on here ever since still have him standing on the highest pedestal. Most of his football is a bore watch unless you favour midfield possession and tapping it backwards and forwards with goals being a rarerity to come by. I think he's overrated and I wonder if his bolshy character affects the players in expressing themselves more.

Didn't seem to affect El Miz last season or Paul Smyth the season before. It's down to the quality and character of players brought in, a bunch of youth loans don't have it.

[PKM]

Does this bloke have any ideas how to run a successful league 1 football team?

Wellens took us from the 4th tier of football to the 3rd tier and many on here ever since still have him standing on the highest pedestal. Most of his football is a bore watch unless you favour midfield possession and tapping it backwards and forwards with goals being a rarerity to come by. I think he's overrated and I wonder if his bolshy character affects the players in expressing themselves more.

Didn't seem to affect El Miz last season or Paul Smyth the season before. It's down to the quality and character of players brought in, a bunch of youth loans don't have it.

Thing is yesterday we didn’t have a ‘bunch of youth loans’ on the pitch

It was an experienced side with a lot of league experience under their belts
Of the starting 11 there’s only Donley that would qualify as a ‘youth loan’.
The back 4 and holding midfield were very experienced .
With the exception of Agyei, we were lacking experience up front, although Kelman has racked up quite a lot of games.
I think where we were lacking is options on the bench upfront, beyond Perkins , who has yet to show anything of worth
Presumably he must look good in training, otherwise why continue to put him in the match day squad?

[Sid Bishop]

ould never got rid of ruel he wasn't that great but scores goals well done ling

Tell gshaw that !!
To be fair Ruel got a really good offer from Bristol Rovers that from all accounts Os could not better.

[gshaw]

ould never got rid of ruel he wasn't that great but scores goals well done ling

Tell gshaw that !!
To be fair Ruel got a really good offer from Bristol Rovers that from all accounts Os could not better.

Kelman still ahead of him in the goal tally this season at probably a quarter of the wages...

[Sid Bishop]

ould never got rid of ruel he wasn't that great but scores goals well done ling

Tell gshaw that !!
To be fair Ruel got a really good offer from Bristol Rovers that from all accounts Os could not better.

Kelman still ahead of him in the goal tally this season at probably a quarter of the wages...

Different clubs and Ruel missed a few games due to injury.
You must be around the only person on the forum still supporting Kelman.
Three season in a row Ruel scored goals for the Os and how many goals did Kelman score over that same period of time ?

[gshaw]

Thing is yesterday we didn’t have a ‘bunch of youth loans’ on the pitch
It was an experienced side with a lot of league experience under their belts
Of the starting 11 there’s only Donley that would qualify as a ‘youth loan’.
The back 4 and holding midfield were very experienced .
With the exception of Agyei, we were lacking experience up front, although Kelman has racked up quite a lot of games.
I think where we were lacking is options on the bench upfront, beyond Perkins , who has yet to show anything of worth
Presumably he must look good in training, otherwise why continue to put him in the match day squad?

Perkins
Donley
Obiero
O'Neill

That's 4 with not a lot of League football between them, towards the end of the game all are on the pitch. I'm also talking about the games early in the season where we've given up 4 games with a squad average age of 22 (I think that was the number quoted in one of the interviews)

Also despite his number of games Brown comes under that naive younger player category for me too, he was carried by El Miz last season imo and now being exposed. Watching that goal it's telling Clare had just gone off, it gets stopped at source if he's still on the pitch either by a tackle or a tactical foul.

O'Neill seems to be struggling this season too which is strange given how he hit the ground running initially. Again lack of options mean we can't really take him out the lineup.

You make a very accurate point about lack of options on the bench. It's bad enough now with our two first choice attackers starting so we'd be in really trouble if either of them are out for any length of time. Similar story at LB where Sweeney hasn't been able to adjust to this level.

People talk about budget but last season we started with 4 pros up top and the squad hasn't bloated in any other areas so how are we now suddenly unable to afford them?

Different clubs and Ruel missed a few games due to injury.
You must be around the only person on the forum still supporting Kelman.
Three season in a row Ruel scored goals for the Os and how many goals did Kelman score over that same period of time ?

Kelman still our top scorer at the moment, Agyei much as I like him needs to do more.

Thing with Ruel he bundles a few goals from the bench then suddenly people think he's a starting quality striker, at which point his poor holdup and passing come into play. Definitely not worth the wage he was demanding, I doubt we pay anyone £6k a week let alone an impact sub.

[PKM]

gshaw
I agree with your overall point, but it was an experienced side that started yesterday, but were broadly in agreement, other than Perkins never got in the pitch yesterday.

[gshaw]

gshaw
I agree with your overall point, but it was an experienced side that started yesterday, but were broadly in agreement, other than Perkins never got in the pitch yesterday.

Good point I had the Exeter tab open at same time /facepalm

[Sid Bishop]

Thing is yesterday we didn’t have a ‘bunch of youth loans’ on the pitch
It was an experienced side with a lot of league experience under their belts
Of the starting 11 there’s only Donley that would qualify as a ‘youth loan’.
The back 4 and holding midfield were very experienced .
With the exception of Agyei, we were lacking experience up front, although Kelman has racked up quite a lot of games.
I think where we were lacking is options on the bench upfront, beyond Perkins , who has yet to show anything of worth
Presumably he must look good in training, otherwise why continue to put him in the match day squad?

Perkins
Donley
Obiero
O'Neill

That's 4 with not a lot of League football between them, towards the end of the game all are on the pitch. I'm also talking about the games early in the season where we've given up 4 games with a squad average age of 22 (I think that was the number quoted in one of the interviews)

Also despite his number of games Brown comes under that naive younger player category for me too, he was carried by El Miz last season imo and now being exposed. Watching that goal it's telling Clare had just gone off, it gets stopped at source if he's still on the pitch either by a tackle or a tactical foul.

O'Neill seems to be struggling this season too which is strange given how he hit the ground running initially. Again lack of options mean we can't really take him out the lineup.

You make a very accurate point about lack of options on the bench. It's bad enough now with our two first choice attackers starting so we'd be in really trouble if either of them are out for any length of time. Similar story at LB where Sweeney hasn't been able to adjust to this level.

People talk about budget but last season we started with 4 pros up top and the squad hasn't bloated in any other areas so how are we now suddenly unable to afford them?

Different clubs and Ruel missed a few games due to injury.
You must be around the only person on the forum still supporting Kelman.
Three season in a row Ruel scored goals for the Os and how many goals did Kelman score over that same period of time ?

Kelman still our top scorer at the moment, Agyei much as I like him needs to do more.

Thing with Ruel he bundles a few goals from the bench then suddenly people think he's a starting quality striker, at which point his poor holdup and passing come into play. Definitely not worth the wage he was demanding, I doubt we pay anyone £6k a week let alone an impact sub.

Last season he played plenty of games in the starting 11 and was praised by Richie for his work rate at closing down defenders. He scored goals and does not matter how they go in and OMG how we need a goal scorer at present !!

[Jeremy Bentham]

Can anyone see a reason why Donley is "highly rated by Tottenham", I haven't seen anything.

Also, who of the signings since last season have made any positive impression? Clare, Currie, possibly Ball and Kelman at the start of the season, anyone else?

[gshaw]

Can anyone see a reason why Donley is "highly rated by Tottenham", I haven't seen anything.

Also, who of the signings since last season have made any positive impression? Clare, Currie, possibly Ball and Kelman at the start of the season, anyone else?

Not to the level of hype they've put on him. My Spurs supporting friend was shocked when I said Donley has been pretty poor so far. Don't think it helps when their blogs are putting out headlines like "Spurs concerned League 1 may be too easy for Donley"

Clare - looked so-so at RB but been a revelation in CDM, only problem is now we're back to the problem of last season where we only have one decent LB and one decent RB in Currie and James

Currie - the LB we needed at the start of the season, shows how far off the required level Sweeney is

Kelman - started brilliantly but seems to have gone off the boil a bit, trouble is we can't keep him or Agyei fresh as no-one else to take their place. Can't fault his effort so hope he gets back on the goals again.

Ball - a bit too early to tell, seems promising but need a stable midfield of Clare, Ball, Galbraith for a run of games

Hemming
Jaiyesimi
Perkins
Donley
Warrington
(Keeley)

All of the above not performing to the standards required thus far. The last one hasn't had much opportunity and because of the shambles of two loan keepers we can't even get him in the squad.

[Chief crazy horse]

'Kelman started BRILLIANTLY ?' Blimey, talk about exaggeration!

[Cheshunto]

Can anyone see a reason why Donley is "highly rated by Tottenham", I haven't seen anything.

Also, who of the signings since last season have made any positive impression? Clare, Currie, possibly Ball and Kelman at the start of the season, anyone else?

I’m watching Spurs on TV at the moment and they look good…….Donley isn’t good enough but then with better players surrounding him he may be. I like Clare in his new midfield role but as everyone is saying it’s our strikers where the problem lies. Perkins, even in his cameo has been disappointing. If he’s the back up to Kelman and Agyei then God help us.

[Hoover Attack]

Can anyone see a reason why Donley is "highly rated by Tottenham", I haven't seen anything.

Also, who of the signings since last season have made any positive impression? Clare, Currie, possibly Ball and Kelman at the start of the season, anyone else?

Not to the level of hype they've put on him. My Spurs supporting friend was shocked when I said Donley has been pretty poor so far. Don't think it helps when their blogs are putting out headlines like "Spurs concerned League 1 may be too easy for Donley"

Clare - looked so-so at RB but been a revelation in CDM, only problem is now we're back to the problem of last season where we only have one decent LB and one decent RB in Currie and James

Currie - the LB we needed at the start of the season, shows how far off the required level Sweeney is

Kelman - started brilliantly but seems to have gone off the boil a bit, trouble is we can't keep him or Agyei fresh as no-one else to take their place. Can't fault his effort so hope he gets back on the goals again.

Ball - a bit too early to tell, seems promising but need a stable midfield of Clare, Ball, Galbraith for a run of games

Hemming
Jaiyesimi
Perkins
Donley
Warrington
(Keeley)

All of the above not performing to the standards required thus far. The last one hasn't had much opportunity and because of the shambles of two loan keepers we can't even get him in the squad.

I like Currie but not seen one person mention him being at fault for their first goal yesterday.

Sweeney would have won that header.

[Stamford O]

It seems at every set piece the players look to the bench to be told what to do,if they played off the cuff more and took responsibility for themselves would we do better

[Monkey Boy]

We are constantly trying to bring in players that are attached to either premiership or championship clubs perhaps we should try and set our sights a little lower and look at league two or NL as there are plenty of hungry players there. Mansfield for example brought in Evan’s from Newport and has started banging ing the goals for them.

[Sid Bishop]

We are constantly trying to bring in players that are attached to either premiership or championship clubs perhaps we should try and set our sights a little lower and look at league two or NL as there are plenty of hungry players there. Mansfield for example brought in Evan’s from Newport and has started banging ing the goals for them.

Good idea. Worked well for Os when they were relegated to the National league and got Bonne in from Division Two Colchester !
Many of the players we are getting from higher league teams are near to youth players, not strong or experienced enough to play in Division One.

[Jeremy Bentham]

Can anyone see a reason why Donley is "highly rated by Tottenham", I haven't seen anything.

Also, who of the signings since last season have made any positive impression? Clare, Currie, possibly Ball and Kelman at the start of the season, anyone else?

I’m watching Spurs on TV at the moment and they look good…….Donley isn’t good enough but then with better players surrounding him he may be. I like Clare in his new midfield role but as everyone is saying it’s our strikers where the problem lies. Perkins, even in his cameo has been disappointing. If he’s the back up to Kelman and Agyei then God help us.

I don't think I've seen Perkins even have a shot yet, including in pre season, bit embarrassing from a recruitment point of view.