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Long slender neck wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:02 am Sotiriou, Drinan, Forde, Piggot, Edwards, Agyei-Adu- where have their wages gone then?
Probably paying the wages of Warrington, Perkins, Ball, DJ, Curry, Clare, Kelman, Hemming & Keely!
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Long slender neck wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:02 am They're all forwards

6 forwards gone replaced with 2 loans - Kelman and Perkins
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east saxon gas wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:49 am
gshaw wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:23 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:33 pm
Well Forde is not doing too great at Rovers either. Richie knew how to get the best out of Ruel and Forde but he is not getting a return in goals from Kelman as of yet, same does for O Neil and Dan A this season.
Haven't seen where BR are playing Forde but one thing to remember he was brought in at Orient as a striker and wasn't much cop in that role. Moved out wide he was a lot more effective.
Forde scored yesterday, and got rave reviews for his overall game. That is the first time though - he's been building up match fitness until now. We've only one real Number 9, who has been injured, so Forde has been one of several 'attackers' without being target men (our late signing O'Donkor might also turn out to be a Number 9)

Sotiriou has been used in a similar role, and is match fit now though probably wasn't for the first 5-6 games of the season. He's been industrious, but probably a middling performer to date
Bit strange that neither Ruel or Forde were fit to start the season?
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Qin wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:55 am
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:02 am Sotiriou, Drinan, Forde, Piggot, Edwards, Agyei-Adu- where have their wages gone then?
Probably paying the wages of Warrington, Perkins, Ball, DJ, Curry, Clare, Kelman, Hemming & Keely!
Drinnans wages went on Edwards and Dan Adjei2.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:57 am
east saxon gas wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:49 am
gshaw wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:23 pm

Haven't seen where BR are playing Forde but one thing to remember he was brought in at Orient as a striker and wasn't much cop in that role. Moved out wide he was a lot more effective.
Forde scored yesterday, and got rave reviews for his overall game. That is the first time though - he's been building up match fitness until now. We've only one real Number 9, who has been injured, so Forde has been one of several 'attackers' without being target men (our late signing O'Donkor might also turn out to be a Number 9)

Sotiriou has been used in a similar role, and is match fit now though probably wasn't for the first 5-6 games of the season. He's been industrious, but probably a middling performer to date
Bit strange that neither Ruel or Forde were fit to start the season?
maybe something to do with them not being early signings, so not getting a full pre-season? I don't know really
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Sotiriou has one goal this season despite playing almost every game

He tends to drop off after getting a new contract though, that seems to be the Ruel with him
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:22 pm Sotiriou has one goal this season despite playing almost every game

He tends to drop off after getting a new contract though, that seems to be the Ruel with him
and that was thanks to a goalie howler. Has been middling overall, as per previous
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east saxon gas wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:02 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:22 pm Sotiriou has one goal this season despite playing almost every game

He tends to drop off after getting a new contract though, that seems to be the Ruel with him
and that was thanks to a goalie howler. Has been middling overall, as per previous
Richie knew how to get the best out of Ruel and Ruel responded by working hard and scoring goals.
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Please buy a striker with a bit of pedigree
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We haven't got the money!
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DuvB wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:42 am Please buy a striker with a bit of pedigree
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We haven't got the money!
Midfield is the answer up until Christmas unfortunately no other option 🤷‍♀️
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Are we getting a striker from Santa?
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If we didn’t have enough money to bring in quality players at the start of the season what will have changed that will allow quality players coming in the January window ?
Whilst I can’t thank Travis enough for saving the club, I feel he can’t take us any further and only massive new investors will allow us to bring in the quality players needed to not only get us promoted and be able to sustain life in the Championship.
The talk of a new Stadium in the next 10 years is all well and good but that is far too long to tread water or possibly be relegated. The rise in ticket prices in my opinion is unrealistic and will not be sustainable with the home record many will stop attending, it’s just not value for money now never mind a 10 year wait.
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PoundhillO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:16 pm If we didn’t have enough money to bring in quality players at the start of the season what will have changed that will allow quality players coming in the January window ?
Whilst I can’t thank Travis enough for saving the club, I feel he can’t take us any further and only massive new investors will allow us to bring in the quality players needed to not only get us promoted and be able to sustain life in the Championship.
The talk of a new Stadium in the next 10 years is all well and good but that is far too long to tread water or possibly be relegated. The rise in ticket prices in my opinion is unrealistic and will not be sustainable with the home record many will stop attending, it’s just not value for money now never mind a 10 year wait.
NT has been trying to get new money into the club for some time I believe. He recognises that this is sorely needed. What more do you want him to do?
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BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:53 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:16 pm If we didn’t have enough money to bring in quality players at the start of the season what will have changed that will allow quality players coming in the January window ?
Whilst I can’t thank Travis enough for saving the club, I feel he can’t take us any further and only massive new investors will allow us to bring in the quality players needed to not only get us promoted and be able to sustain life in the Championship.
The talk of a new Stadium in the next 10 years is all well and good but that is far too long to tread water or possibly be relegated. The rise in ticket prices in my opinion is unrealistic and will not be sustainable with the home record many will stop attending, it’s just not value for money now never mind a 10 year wait.
NT has been trying to get new money into the club for some time I believe. He recognises that this is sorely needed. What more do you want him to do?
Get it done or we will stagnate in League1 or at worst be relegated whilst paying ludicrous seat prices for the pleasure.
If the above happens home gate numbers will fall add to the financial plight of our club.
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Story of O wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:33 pm Are we getting a striker from Santa?
Apart from Dan A Wellens keeps playing Dwarfs/Elfs up front so hopefully yes
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PoundhillO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:02 pm
BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:53 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:16 pm If we didn’t have enough money to bring in quality players at the start of the season what will have changed that will allow quality players coming in the January window ?
Whilst I can’t thank Travis enough for saving the club, I feel he can’t take us any further and only massive new investors will allow us to bring in the quality players needed to not only get us promoted and be able to sustain life in the Championship.
The talk of a new Stadium in the next 10 years is all well and good but that is far too long to tread water or possibly be relegated. The rise in ticket prices in my opinion is unrealistic and will not be sustainable with the home record many will stop attending, it’s just not value for money now never mind a 10 year wait.
NT has been trying to get new money into the club for some time I believe. He recognises that this is sorely needed. What more do you want him to do?
Get it done or we will stagnate in League1 or at worst be relegated whilst paying ludicrous seat prices for the pleasure.
If the above happens home gate numbers will fall add to the financial plight of our club.
"Get it done" - never liked this phrase even before it became a banner cry for the feckup called Brexit. If NT is struggling to attract new investors then how, exactly, should he make this happen? I think NT knows his business, knows the appetite for investing in UK football over in the US. Are you suggesting he doesn't?
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Budgets we have to keep to it
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BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:49 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:02 pm
BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:53 pm

NT has been trying to get new money into the club for some time I believe. He recognises that this is sorely needed. What more do you want him to do?
Get it done or we will stagnate in League1 or at worst be relegated whilst paying ludicrous seat prices for the pleasure.
If the above happens home gate numbers will fall add to the financial plight of our club.
"Get it done" - never liked this phrase even before it became a banner cry for the feckup called Brexit. If NT is struggling to attract new investors then how, exactly, should he make this happen? I think NT knows his business, knows the appetite for investing in UK football over in the US. Are you suggesting he doesn't?
I am suggesting that if NT knows his business he clearly hasn’t had the success that is needed and therefore unless he has the success needed the club will stagnate or be relegated, it’s not rocket science.
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BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:53 pm
NT has been trying to get new money into the club for some time I believe. He recognises that this is sorely needed. What more do you want him to do?
Thing is that investment seems to be earmarked for an expensive training ground that's 1/3 for the first team and 2/3 for the academy / women's team. Still seeing very little output from the former and the latter now appears partially outsourced.

As an investor would you want to put money into something that doesn't show any immediate effect on the pitch?
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How many goals did Sotiriou and Forde score combined last season . They are the goals we have to find from somebody else this season
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gshaw wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:57 pm
BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:53 pm
NT has been trying to get new money into the club for some time I believe. He recognises that this is sorely needed. What more do you want him to do?
Thing is that investment seems to be earmarked for an expensive training ground that's 1/3 for the first team and 2/3 for the academy / women's team. Still seeing very little output from the former and the latter now appears partially outsourced.

As an investor would you want to put money into something that doesn't show any immediate effect on the pitch?
Club have said a number of times new investment coming in is completely linked to identifying a site for a new ground. That is going to be a complicated, lengthy process that unfortunately doesn't lend itself to public updates because it will be sensitive work.

The upshot to that could be transformative for the club and is a much bigger deal than being a striker short this season. It'd remove the hard ceiling on growth we currently have, short of lucking out with a benign mega investor who's happy to swallow losses of tens a millions a season whilst we're hemmed into a small capacity stadium that can't be expanded.

Likewise, framing a new training ground as some kind of indulgence feels silly, it's an investment in the next few decades of the club. None of us know how shoddy our current facilities are or what the potential benefit would be to a significant improvement. It's a judgment call being made by people who have achieved success with us so far and know the clubs situation far better than we do (for example, cost of renting vs paying down the borrowing on a site we own, sporting advantage better facilities offer, potential for improving the academy etc).
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Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:31 pm
gshaw wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:57 pm
BoniO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:53 pm
NT has been trying to get new money into the club for some time I believe. He recognises that this is sorely needed. What more do you want him to do?
Thing is that investment seems to be earmarked for an expensive training ground that's 1/3 for the first team and 2/3 for the academy / women's team. Still seeing very little output from the former and the latter now appears partially outsourced.

As an investor would you want to put money into something that doesn't show any immediate effect on the pitch?
Club have said a number of times new investment coming in is completely linked to identifying a site for a new ground. That is going to be a complicated, lengthy process that unfortunately doesn't lend itself to public updates because it will be sensitive work.

The upshot to that could be transformative for the club and is a much bigger deal than being a striker short this season. It'd remove the hard ceiling on growth we currently have, short of lucking out with a benign mega investor who's happy to swallow losses of tens a millions a season whilst we're hemmed into a small capacity stadium that can't be expanded.

Likewise, framing a new training ground as some kind of indulgence feels silly, it's an investment in the next few decades of the club. None of us know how shoddy our current facilities are or what the potential benefit would be to a significant improvement. It's a judgment call being made by people who have achieved success with us so far and know the clubs situation far better than we do (for example, cost of renting vs paying down the borrowing on a site we own, sporting advantage better facilities offer, potential for improving the academy etc).
So if and until the club identify a new ground, get the relevant permissions etc we will not be in a position to afford the quality of players needed to get promotion to the Championship and sustain a stay there. Meanwhile the club charge unrealistic prices for home games, home gates drop and we wither on the vine .The next 5 to 10 years looks really exciting (not).
Only one solution, new massive investment now before the rot sets in and we somehow manage to stay in League 1 or get relegated .
The future does not look promising.
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“Get loads of money”. PoundhillO has cracked the case again!
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PoundhillO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:59 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:31 pm
gshaw wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:57 pm

Thing is that investment seems to be earmarked for an expensive training ground that's 1/3 for the first team and 2/3 for the academy / women's team. Still seeing very little output from the former and the latter now appears partially outsourced.

As an investor would you want to put money into something that doesn't show any immediate effect on the pitch?
Club have said a number of times new investment coming in is completely linked to identifying a site for a new ground. That is going to be a complicated, lengthy process that unfortunately doesn't lend itself to public updates because it will be sensitive work.

The upshot to that could be transformative for the club and is a much bigger deal than being a striker short this season. It'd remove the hard ceiling on growth we currently have, short of lucking out with a benign mega investor who's happy to swallow losses of tens a millions a season whilst we're hemmed into a small capacity stadium that can't be expanded.

Likewise, framing a new training ground as some kind of indulgence feels silly, it's an investment in the next few decades of the club. None of us know how shoddy our current facilities are or what the potential benefit would be to a significant improvement. It's a judgment call being made by people who have achieved success with us so far and know the clubs situation far better than we do (for example, cost of renting vs paying down the borrowing on a site we own, sporting advantage better facilities offer, potential for improving the academy etc).
So if and until the club identify a new ground, get the relevant permissions etc we will not be in a position to afford the quality of players needed to get promotion to the Championship and sustain a stay there. Meanwhile the club charge unrealistic prices for home games, home gates drop and we wither on the vine .The next 5 to 10 years looks really exciting (not).
Only one solution, new massive investment now before the rot sets in and we somehow manage to stay in League 1 or get relegated .
The future does not look promising.
I really think you are supporting the wrong club
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Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:17 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:59 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:31 pm

Club have said a number of times new investment coming in is completely linked to identifying a site for a new ground. That is going to be a complicated, lengthy process that unfortunately doesn't lend itself to public updates because it will be sensitive work.

The upshot to that could be transformative for the club and is a much bigger deal than being a striker short this season. It'd remove the hard ceiling on growth we currently have, short of lucking out with a benign mega investor who's happy to swallow losses of tens a millions a season whilst we're hemmed into a small capacity stadium that can't be expanded.

Likewise, framing a new training ground as some kind of indulgence feels silly, it's an investment in the next few decades of the club. None of us know how shoddy our current facilities are or what the potential benefit would be to a significant improvement. It's a judgment call being made by people who have achieved success with us so far and know the clubs situation far better than we do (for example, cost of renting vs paying down the borrowing on a site we own, sporting advantage better facilities offer, potential for improving the academy etc).
So if and until the club identify a new ground, get the relevant permissions etc we will not be in a position to afford the quality of players needed to get promotion to the Championship and sustain a stay there. Meanwhile the club charge unrealistic prices for home games, home gates drop and we wither on the vine .The next 5 to 10 years looks really exciting (not).
Only one solution, new massive investment now before the rot sets in and we somehow manage to stay in League 1 or get relegated .
The future does not look promising.
I really think you are supporting the wrong club
I am supporting the right club and have been for over 66 years, would never support any other club.
It’s time for the owners to walk the walk , not just talk the talk and support the supporters.
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