Assisted Dying
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Re: Assisted Dying
Yay. Have pondered this for years but finally came down on the side of the individual. Heartbreaking for all but there's a minefield here between assisted dying, euthanasia and suicide as well as whether the individual has capacity to choose the assisted dying option.
Like many I have seen people pass away in great pain and discomfort. They had no quality of life (their words). I have come down on the side of respecting their wishes. If it is me though I don't want one of the Star Trek inspired capsules thanks.
Like many I have seen people pass away in great pain and discomfort. They had no quality of life (their words). I have come down on the side of respecting their wishes. If it is me though I don't want one of the Star Trek inspired capsules thanks.
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Re: Assisted Dying
I feel like there’s a “nudge” in the public sphere towards this, and I’m not sure it’s entirely rooted in dignity of people who are suffering - if it were, it would have been sorted long ago.
My fear is that the right to die would in practice end up as a responsibility to die
My fear is that the right to die would in practice end up as a responsibility to die
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Re: Assisted Dying
Yes, with appropriate safeguards we should have a choice. It will take a lot of thought to figure out what those safeguards should be, I have read that 'with six months or less left to live' is one idea.
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Great idea in theory, who wouldn’t want to give dignity to the terminally ill
In practice people will slip through the “safeguards” (which will eventually be eroded down and down) and people will feel obligated/leaned on take the option. Others who would’ve survived anyway will also slip through the net as well as people with severe MH problems.
In practice people will slip through the “safeguards” (which will eventually be eroded down and down) and people will feel obligated/leaned on take the option. Others who would’ve survived anyway will also slip through the net as well as people with severe MH problems.
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Re: Assisted Dying
It likely seems more than it is due to the feel good factor associated with it. But the “I was given 4 months to live by my doctor, that was 20 years ago” stories are a press staple.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:43 am Yes, with appropriate safeguards we should have a choice. It will take a lot of thought to figure out what those safeguards should be, I have read that 'with six months or less left to live' is one idea.
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Yeah, this.CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:32 am I feel like there’s a “nudge” in the public sphere towards this, and I’m not sure it’s entirely rooted in dignity of people who are suffering - if it were, it would have been sorted long ago.
My fear is that the right to die would in practice end up as a responsibility to die
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Re: Assisted Dying
The current system seems to be that, while it's illegal, after some performative "investigation" the authorities tend to turn a blind eye. That's probably about right. Sometimes it's best to not try and fix things.
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Re: Assisted Dying
If I am for instance paralysed with no hope of recovery, why shouldnt I be able to end my life without causing massive problems for my family?
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Re: Assisted Dying
We'd fit you up with one of those Stephen Hawkings' computer chairs. You'd still be able to moderate this place.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:29 pm If I am for instance paralysed with no hope of recovery, why shouldnt I be able to end my life without causing massive problems for my family?
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Re: Assisted Dying
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:32 pmWe'd fit you up with one of those Stephen Hawkings' computer chairs. You'd still be able to moderate this place.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:29 pm If I am for instance paralysed with no hope of recovery, why shouldnt I be able to end my life without causing massive problems for my family?
Isn’t this a bit like that joke about “will I be able to play the piano after my operation?” “Yes of course” “great, cos I was awful before!”?
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Re: Assisted Dying
It would be the thin end of the wedge. People who are old and incapable of looking after themselves will think of themselves as a burden and feel duty bound to opt for it.
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Re: Assisted Dying
Surely they already feel like this?
Can one of the old boys on here please confirm.
Can one of the old boys on here please confirm.
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Because “unable to look after themselves” can be applied to a lot of people in the country across all age bracketsLong slender neck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:38 pmWhats wrong with that? At the moment there is no choice but to carry on.
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Not sure about that. Many people struggle to differentiate between pets and humans