Job offer advice

[The Reverend]

Been through 3 rounds of interviews and have just been offered the job.

Although the title is the same as my current role it’s a slight step up in responsibilities which obviously has its risks, however I think I can rise to the challenge. They’ve also offered me a decent increase on my current salary (20% more than what I’m currently on which is perfectly reasonable in itself).

Been at my current company for quite a while, through various promotions and feel like a part of the furniture. This is good in terms of security but it’s all feeling a bit stale. Culture at my current place has changed quite a lot recently too, for the worse so feel less attached than before.

Not entirely sure whether to stick to what I know or take the plunge.

Obviously I’m seeking advice from those close to me but would be interested to hear what those on the board would do. Presumably this is a scenario some of you have faced before. What did you do? What swayed the decision?

[Omygawd]

Have you been offered the role as Canon or Dean? Canon is still a bit hands on whereas Dean can swan around a bit in an episcopal manner.

[The Reverend]

Have you been offered the role as Canon or Dean? Canon is till a bit hands on whereas Dean can swan around a bit in an episcopal manner.

The new role is a mixture of hands on & swanning. My current role is mainly hands on (which I enjoy).

[Admin]

Been through 3 rounds of interviews and have just been offered the job.

Although the title is the same as my current role it’s a slight step up in responsibilities which obviously has its risks, however I think I can rise to the challenge. They’ve also offered me a decent increase on my current salary (20% more than what I’m currently on which is perfectly reasonable in itself).

Been at my current company for quite a while, through various promotions and feel like a part of the furniture. This is good in terms of security but it’s all feeling a bit stale. Culture at my current place has changed quite a lot recently too, for the worse so feel less attached than before.

Not entirely sure whether to stick to what I know or take the plunge.

Obviously I’m seeking advice from those close to me but would be interested to hear what those on the board would do. Presumably this is a scenario some of you have faced before. What did you do? What swayed the decision?

You only live once. Get on with it.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Been in a very similar situation recently.

Was at my firm for 13 years. Knew everyone, knew everything but they'd change my role quite significantly although it was a great skill to have (in the market) it wasn't what I was passionate about. The culture also changed and was completely at odds with somewhere I wanted to work.

Got a job offer from a smaller firm (so big fish in small pond) but one who were expanding and taking on a lot of new stuff (rather than stale same old at the big company). Offered me what i wanted in terms of role but the money was barely more than I was on.

I'm quite loyal and risk adverse when it comes to jobs and it took a lot (mainly because I made a lot of really good friends there) but I thought, if I'm in this same role in a year and have a really sh*t day/week/month i'm going to regret not accepting. So I did.

And I just finished my first day and I feel full of energy for the first time in about 5 years.

One thing Im bad at, but keep reminding myself of is that if this new one is sh*t i'll just find another job. This isn't the 1800's.

[Constanza]

Which job offers the most boarding time?
CEB would advise you taking the one with less.

[The Reverend]

Been in a very similar situation recently.

Was at my firm for 13 years. Knew everyone, knew everything but they'd change my role quite significantly although it was a great skill to have (in the market) it wasn't what I was passionate about. The culture also changed and was completely at odds with somewhere I wanted to work.

Got a job offer from a smaller firm (so big fish in small pond) but one who were expanding and taking on a lot of new stuff (rather than stale same old at the big company). Offered me what i wanted in terms of role but the money was barely more than I was on.

I'm quite loyal and risk adverse when it comes to jobs and it took a lot (mainly because I made a lot of really good friends there) but I thought, if I'm in this same role in a year and have a really sh*t day/week/month i'm going to regret not accepting. So I did.

And I just finished my first day and I feel full of energy for the first time in about 5 years.

One thing Im bad at, but keep reminding myself of is that if this new one is sh*t i'll just find another job. This isn't the 1800's.

Genuinely appreciate you sharing that. As you say, our situations are very similar in terms of the current role. I’m also quite risk adverse but what you have said about it not being the end of the world even if it doesn’t work out is food for thought.

The other thing is that I was ‘t actively searching for a new role. I just happened to come across this particular job via LinkedIn and it was a really close fit in terms of experience/skillset and has some exciting opportunities. However, it’s also possible that things don’t work out and I find myself jobless in 3 months….

It’s a really tough decision.

[Stowaway]

Moving from a secure job to something new can be very daunting. You’ll need to be sure it’s an upgrade rather than just a change. You don’t mention your age, but it’s certainly harder to move on the older you get.

However, an extra 20% salary isn’t to be sneezed at. It’ll also give you a chance to reassert yourself in a new role. You sound a bit jaded at your current job, I’ve felt that before. I did go and look at another job a couple of years back but it just didn’t feel right so I stayed where I am.

The issue you’ll have is that if you don’t take it, the chances are that you’ll be sitting there in a couple of months after a bad day and will end up thinking “what if?”, and it’ll be too late then.

My advice? Go for it. You’ll never know until you try, and the chance of it being worse than your current job is very low.

[StillSpike]

Been in a very similar situation recently.

Was at my firm for 13 years. Knew everyone, knew everything but they'd change my role quite significantly although it was a great skill to have (in the market) it wasn't what I was passionate about. The culture also changed and was completely at odds with somewhere I wanted to work.

Got a job offer from a smaller firm (so big fish in small pond) but one who were expanding and taking on a lot of new stuff (rather than stale same old at the big company). Offered me what i wanted in terms of role but the money was barely more than I was on.

I'm quite loyal and risk adverse when it comes to jobs and it took a lot (mainly because I made a lot of really good friends there) but I thought, if I'm in this same role in a year and have a really sh*t day/week/month i'm going to regret not accepting. So I did.

And I just finished my first day and I feel full of energy for the first time in about 5 years.

One thing Im bad at, but keep reminding myself of is that if this new one is sh*t i'll just find another job. This isn't the 1800's.

Genuinely appreciate you sharing that. As you say, our situations are very similar in terms of the current role. I’m also quite risk adverse but what you have said about it not being the end of the world even if it doesn’t work out is food for thought.

The other thing is that I was ‘t actively searching for a new role. I just happened to come across this particular job via LinkedIn and it was a really close fit in terms of experience/skillset and has some exciting opportunities. However, it’s also possible that things don’t work out and I find myself jobless in 3 months….

It’s a really tough decision.

Is finding yourself jobless a disaster ? If you did, is your skill set such that finding new job (or returning to your current employer with your tail between your legs) is likely to be difficult or easy?

You may not have been looking actively, but now you've been through the process, you're realising there's more out there (and, by the sounds of it, better remunerated)

[Long slender neck]

If the terms and environment aint that great where you are then jump ship.

[EliotNes]

Go for it. If you don't you'll always wonder if you should have. I was in a similar situation at age 38 with two daughters under 8. Apart from marrying Mrs NES, it was the best thing I ever did.

[Dunners]

20% more isn't necessarily meaningful.

Work out what your additional take-home salary is after all deductions will be. Write it down, and then, while staring at it, ask yourself if it will be worth whatever the extra workload, responsibility, and risk will be.

Also, be clear on what you will do with that extra money. If you don't have a plan, then your household expenditure will quickly adapt to swallow it up for no obvious benefit. Even if you don't spend more yourself, trust me, others in your household will.

The worst that can happen is you happen to be sh*t at the new job, and your employer hands you your arse. So, make sure you have emergency savings to cover six months essential spending. And then, with whatever is left, do you pay down your mortgage, top up your pension, put into some other investment, pay for a Boardin' degree?

If you're reasonably confident of securing alternative employment should the worst happen, and feel you could do the job, then why not go for it?

[Long slender neck]

What would your new salary be? Hit the heights of £31k yet?

[Dunners]

Back when you earned that, it wasn't a bad salary. Nowadays it's a poverty wage.

[Max B Gold]

Pray for guidance from the god you worship Rev.

I'm not sure which one applies in your situation but would say, follow the money or is it follow your heart. Whichever it is stop pishing the bed and get on with your life.

[Scuba Diver]

What do the "new" people seem like - that you would be working with?

Are you chomping at the bit to work with them, or, have they not really lit your fire you just "fancy a change"?

Any red flags in there- in terms of their personalities- -? Red flags at the start are why you walk away at the end and bear in mind - it's an interview- they're on their absolute 'best behaviour'

Although a 3-stage interview is accepted these days; to some extent it strikes me that when in place it might be indicative of the hiring manager's inability to make a decision, and, (controversial I know) but I find it's slightly degrading for the candidates- as in why would you need to talk to someone 3 times for a total of (likely) 3+ hours, then simply get rid of the un-successful candidates?

I find companies that do that a bit small-minded 'perhaps'.

As an e.g., when I took my (City) job three years ago, the hiring manager bounced a huge amount of questions at me (on the technical side), and explained at the start it was gonna be tough. Quick chat at the end around interests etc and then a job offer.
This took barely an hour.
I'm still there 3 years later- he's a good guy and I could work that out immediately. We didn't need to meet 3 times to establish that.

Job interviews are as much about the candidate sizing up the company as the company sizing up the candidate.
Any doubts, I'd sit tight

I don't know or care, what you earn but if you sit in certain tax brackets a 20% increase may leave you with only a small amount extra each month. Check this also.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Been in a very similar situation recently.

Was at my firm for 13 years. Knew everyone, knew everything but they'd change my role quite significantly although it was a great skill to have (in the market) it wasn't what I was passionate about. The culture also changed and was completely at odds with somewhere I wanted to work.

Got a job offer from a smaller firm (so big fish in small pond) but one who were expanding and taking on a lot of new stuff (rather than stale same old at the big company). Offered me what i wanted in terms of role but the money was barely more than I was on.

I'm quite loyal and risk adverse when it comes to jobs and it took a lot (mainly because I made a lot of really good friends there) but I thought, if I'm in this same role in a year and have a really sh*t day/week/month i'm going to regret not accepting. So I did.

And I just finished my first day and I feel full of energy for the first time in about 5 years.

One thing Im bad at, but keep reminding myself of is that if this new one is sh*t i'll just find another job. This isn't the 1800's.

Genuinely appreciate you sharing that. As you say, our situations are very similar in terms of the current role. I’m also quite risk adverse but what you have said about it not being the end of the world even if it doesn’t work out is food for thought.

The other thing is that I was ‘t actively searching for a new role. I just happened to come across this particular job via LinkedIn and it was a really close fit in terms of experience/skillset and has some exciting opportunities. However, it’s also possible that things don’t work out and I find myself jobless in 3 months….

It’s a really tough decision.

Yeah that’s the other thing. I was holding out for redundancy that never came and you can’t wait forever. But I am on a probation now so for barely any more money I’ve risked that job security for this. But what’s the point if you’re miserable.

Jump, and the net will appear, as they say.

[Monkey Boy]

Been through 3 rounds of interviews and have just been offered the job.

Although the title is the same as my current role it’s a slight step up in responsibilities which obviously has its risks, however I think I can rise to the challenge. They’ve also offered me a decent increase on my current salary (20% more than what I’m currently on which is perfectly reasonable in itself).

Been at my current company for quite a while, through various promotions and feel like a part of the furniture. This is good in terms of security but it’s all feeling a bit stale. Culture at my current place has changed quite a lot recently too, for the worse so feel less attached than before.

Not entirely sure whether to stick to what I know or take the plunge.

Obviously I’m seeking advice from those close to me but would be interested to hear what those on the board would do. Presumably this is a scenario some of you have faced before. What did you do? What swayed the decision?

Talk it over with your partner if you have one and not the people on here

[LittleMate]

Been through 3 rounds of interviews and have just been offered the job.

Although the title is the same as my current role it’s a slight step up in responsibilities which obviously has its risks, however I think I can rise to the challenge. They’ve also offered me a decent increase on my current salary (20% more than what I’m currently on which is perfectly reasonable in itself).

Been at my current company for quite a while, through various promotions and feel like a part of the furniture. This is good in terms of security but it’s all feeling a bit stale. Culture at my current place has changed quite a lot recently too, for the worse so feel less attached than before.

Not entirely sure whether to stick to what I know or take the plunge.

Obviously I’m seeking advice from those close to me but would be interested to hear what those on the board would do. Presumably this is a scenario some of you have faced before. What did you do? What swayed the decision?

If you didn't want the job then why do the interview process? All I can think of is that you have become less enthused as you go through the process.

Having been there the time you have, you can almost certainly fulfil the role. So if I were you I'd go for it and and review where you are in 6 months time. If the company is not for you then seek another; if the role isn't what you want you can either talk to your superiors about stepping back - or you can go out into the job market and look for a role that suits where you want to be. BOL

[Max B Gold]

Been through 3 rounds of interviews and have just been offered the job.

Although the title is the same as my current role it’s a slight step up in responsibilities which obviously has its risks, however I think I can rise to the challenge. They’ve also offered me a decent increase on my current salary (20% more than what I’m currently on which is perfectly reasonable in itself).

Been at my current company for quite a while, through various promotions and feel like a part of the furniture. This is good in terms of security but it’s all feeling a bit stale. Culture at my current place has changed quite a lot recently too, for the worse so feel less attached than before.

Not entirely sure whether to stick to what I know or take the plunge.

Obviously I’m seeking advice from those close to me but would be interested to hear what those on the board would do. Presumably this is a scenario some of you have faced before. What did you do? What swayed the decision?

Talk it over with your partner if you have one and not the people on here

Terrible advice. This MB has never failed to provide the correct advice when required.

[Dunners]

Correct. No matter what the topic, boarders know their onions.

[Adz]

You obviously interviewed for another job for a reason, if it's hit that, then move

[The Reverend]

Correct. No matter what the topic, boarders know their onions.

This thread has produced some genuinely thoughtful, honest and quite sage advice.

[DrWindy]

Been through 3 rounds of interviews and have just been offered the job.

Although the title is the same as my current role it’s a slight step up in responsibilities which obviously has its risks, however I think I can rise to the challenge. They’ve also offered me a decent increase on my current salary (20% more than what I’m currently on which is perfectly reasonable in itself).

Been at my current company for quite a while, through various promotions and feel like a part of the furniture. This is good in terms of security but it’s all feeling a bit stale. Culture at my current place has changed quite a lot recently too, for the worse so feel less attached than before.

Not entirely sure whether to stick to what I know or take the plunge.

Obviously I’m seeking advice from those close to me but would be interested to hear what those on the board would do. Presumably this is a scenario some of you have faced before. What did you do? What swayed the decision?

I think the fact you have considered moving, let alone had numerous interviews should tell you all you need to know.

Life is too short to not enjoy your work. If it feels right then chase after it.

[Long slender neck]

What do you do Rev?