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The so called terrible tackle didn't even make the highlights. Strange that it didn't.
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Goalkeeper, should’ve got a hand to that. Would be nice if he saved something!
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Brigs wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:34 pm The so called terrible tackle didn't even make the highlights. Strange that it didn't.
Years ago before all the slow motion video playbacks, tackles like that were everyday things and all part of the game. Back in the day, I received a few like that and perhaps given a few as well !
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Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:48 pm Goalkeeper, should’ve got a hand to that. Would be nice if he saved something!
I thought that but from behind the goal replay I have seen he wasn't as close to it as it looked
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Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:48 pm Goalkeeper, should’ve got a hand to that. Would be nice if he saved something!
The defence should have put it into Row Z!
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Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:59 pm
Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:48 pm Goalkeeper, should’ve got a hand to that. Would be nice if he saved something!
The defence should have put it into Row Z!
Instead it looked like Sweeney knocked it into Berry’s path to score.
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Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:59 pm
Orient Punxx wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:48 pm Goalkeeper, should’ve got a hand to that. Would be nice if he saved something!
The defence should have put it into Row Z!
We have got to stop giving away such cheap goals . I’m not looking forward to Saturday and Birmingham City
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Happe loses the header, the scorer picks up the ball but Beckles is miles away
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Happe should do better with the initial header IMO
As for Hemmings, is he a bit slow getting down, not sure, but anyway we didn’t create much in that 2nd half, and probably didn’t deserve more than a point. I think we played better last week v Bolton
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I just don’t think Hemmings has the ability to save that shot. Plenty of other goalies out there have, including Howes.
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Are we seriously blaming Hemming for the goal? Tough crowd.
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Cheshunto wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:47 pm Happe should do better with the initial header IMO
As for Hemmings, is he a bit slow getting down, not sure, but anyway we didn’t create much in that 2nd half, and probably didn’t deserve more than a point. I think we played better last week v Bolton
There’s an angle of Anekes challenge on Happe on Orient TV which shows he led with his elbow and collects Happe in the face near his left eye. It was a foul.
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Cheshunto wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:47 pm Happe should do better with the initial header IMO
As for Hemmings, is he a bit slow getting down, not sure, but anyway we didn’t create much in that 2nd half, and probably didn’t deserve more than a point. I think we played better last week v Bolton
Yup was slow getting down, for me that is a bigger worry than the mistakes in previous games.
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Adz wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 12:13 am
Cheshunto wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:47 pm Happe should do better with the initial header IMO
As for Hemmings, is he a bit slow getting down, not sure, but anyway we didn’t create much in that 2nd half, and probably didn’t deserve more than a point. I think we played better last week v Bolton
Yup was slow getting down, for me that is a bigger worry than the mistakes in previous games.
Yeah, he just doesn’t look like a keeper with quick reflexes and instincts.

Think you could argue that he should have come and claimed the ball before Beckles pulled their player down about 5 years from the goal
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Playing reasonably well and getting nothing from a game: depressing.
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Long slender neck wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:32 pm Happe loses the header, the scorer picks up the ball but Beckles is miles away
Beckles doing what he does 2-3 times a season - never really getting involved when we concede a goal. Thought he could have stepped out after Happe loses the header. Having said that we lose 3 successive challenges in 2-3 seconds.
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LittleMate wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:38 am
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:32 pm Happe loses the header, the scorer picks up the ball but Beckles is miles away
Beckles doing what he does 2-3 times a season - never really getting involved when we concede a goal. Thought he could have stepped out after Happe loses the header. Having said that we lose 3 successive challenges in 2-3 seconds.
Agree. Beckles passiveness means sweeney has to come across and leave his man but he’s not really in a good position to engage. Partly what happens when 50% of your back line have to go off injured and you’re juggling players
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I feel like Beckles should get in front of it or at least be closer to put the scorer off, but all of this happens in a couple of seconds. Wouldnt expect a keeper to save it, but if they do its a great save.
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Give it to Jabo wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:12 am Playing reasonably well and getting nothing from a game: depressing.
You must be joking? That was a poor performance and if people can remember last season we played Charlton first game and everyone said they would be up the top and look how that turned out. If Bolton and Charlton are up the top this year then we will be champions. They were average teams at best. At this point we are bottom 6/8. Due to poor recruitment.Saturday we missed Galbraith we had nobody capable of passing the ball. We have no decent left back and no forward capable of holding up the ball or getting into the box to trouble the opposition. Dan A is wasted in the CF position. We were promised exciting signings and we have average at best. No word from the chairman or Ling at this stage which to me is unusual. We will have to play out of our skins on Saturday to get anything out of the game.
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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:42 am
LittleMate wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:38 am
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:32 pm Happe loses the header, the scorer picks up the ball but Beckles is miles away
Beckles doing what he does 2-3 times a season - never really getting involved when we concede a goal. Thought he could have stepped out after Happe loses the header. Having said that we lose 3 successive challenges in 2-3 seconds.
Agree. Beckles passiveness means sweeney has to come across and leave his man but he’s not really in a good position to engage. Partly what happens when 50% of your back line have to go off injured and you’re juggling players
Beckles is done, good brain and fairly good in the air but on the ground, no chance. 4 th choice at best. As I said before Sweeney has no right foot and that was a right footed challenge. Looking at the game Saturday and the week before it is evident that our team lack pace and are very static at times,that is the reason we pass the ball backwards or sideways and when RW is interviewed always says we don’t pass the the ball forward enough. Reason being we basically lack pace and today’s modern game is all about first touch and pace of which at this time we have little.
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Monkey Boy wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:36 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:42 am
LittleMate wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:38 am

Beckles doing what he does 2-3 times a season - never really getting involved when we concede a goal. Thought he could have stepped out after Happe loses the header. Having said that we lose 3 successive challenges in 2-3 seconds.
Agree. Beckles passiveness means sweeney has to come across and leave his man but he’s not really in a good position to engage. Partly what happens when 50% of your back line have to go off injured and you’re juggling players
Beckles is done, good brain and fairly good in the air but on the ground, no chance. 4 th choice at best. As I said before Sweeney has no right foot and that was a right footed challenge. Looking at the game Saturday and the week before it is evident that our team lack pace and are very static at times,that is the reason we pass the ball backwards or sideways and when RW is interviewed always says we don’t pass the the ball forward enough. Reason being we basically lack pace and today’s modern game is all about first touch and pace of which at this time we have little.
Your comment before you wrote..... ''Dan A is wasted in the CF position''
Good point and a quite obvious one at that but Wellins does not seem to like having a traditional type of target man centre forward who can hold the ball up and bring other players into the game such as Dan and Charlie Kelman. All this talk of formations and tactics but look at how Charlton scored their goal, nothing complicated about that was there, could have come straight out of the 1950s or 60s era football !
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LittleMate wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:38 am
Long slender neck wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:32 pm Happe loses the header, the scorer picks up the ball but Beckles is miles away
Beckles doing what he does 2-3 times a season - never really getting involved when we concede a goal. Thought he could have stepped out after Happe loses the header. Having said that we lose 3 successive challenges in 2-3 seconds.
Nothing to do with Beckles.

It all starts with Perkins failing to press the left sided defender with the ball. He has forever to set himself and pick a pass. If Perkins gets out to him, the ball is either played down their left wing or, more likely, returned to the keeper and they punt it forward from 30 yards deeper. That's not Perkins fault - that's the problem with having an inexperienced kid out there.

Happe loses the header, Sweeney is beaten to the ball by his man by millimetres, Brown is then beaten to the next ball by his man by the same margin. It's difficult to apportion any blame to any of those players. Beckles is marking the other forward who doesn't touch the ball but holds his position so can't fault his involvement. TJ possibly should have come round and covered as we were 3v3 at the back and he's marking no one.

But that shot from the edge of the box should not be hitting the back of the net. You have to fault Hemming again. 3 games now and we've yet to see him save anything.
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Football action kicks in at about 4.30.

Clear view of the clare tackle.
Also shows how far/close Hemming was from the shot for the goal.
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Painful and surprising to be 0 point from 6 first two games. Was feeling so optimistic. Still am.

Take glaring error away and it's a point from Bolton. Then a last minute killer at Charlton. You can read it either way but I think we will turn it and build momentum and be doing better earlier than last season.

At the moment the start is giving a little bit of a reminder of last season's awful start. However we had lost our star signing not long before.

Am hopeful for a point and a solid showing on Saturday and upwards from there.

Please God Graham and Theo come back sharpish.

General consensus seems to be Hemmings had a fairly solid/ok game against Charlton...?
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