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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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essexfootball wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:58 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:55 pm The back 4 (well, 6 incl subs) were all ok. Brown and Kelman again the highlights. Obeiro ok too but I don’t like him as a 4, he’s wasted.
Brown like last week was absolutely knackered after 80 and Kelman just put every shot straight at the keeper
Another one in the "tries hard but not quite good enough" bracket at this level. Useful utility player but midfield anchor, nope. Got bailed out a lot by El Miz last season and the difference without him there is telling already.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:58 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:55 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:53 pm

Bit of a mugging yes though for as bad as the ref was he could've given them a cheap penalty and didn't have a hand in their goal
Chea penalty? he had hold of Becles then fell over, NEVER a pen
Seen them given though and with some of the other calls Charlton had their way during the game it wouldn't have been surprising had they got it
I dont think ive seen a pen for falling over since klinsman was about
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Performance was ok, but we’re definitely finishing somewhere between 15th and 20th this season. Not a hope of getting anywhere near play offs with this squad. Charlton didn’t exactly blow me away, but we could play them for 5 hours and barely get a shot on target. This will be a common theme amongst many teams this season.

And why does Jordan Brown struggle to play a semi-decent forward pass?
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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essexfootball wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:58 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:55 pm The back 4 (well, 6 incl subs) were all ok. Brown and Kelman again the highlights. Obeiro ok too but I don’t like him as a 4, he’s wasted.
Brown like last week was absolutely knackered after 80 and Kelman just put every shot straight at the keeper
It’s almost as if Jordan is doing sh*t loads of work in there or something, isn’t it.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:01 pm
essexfootball wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:58 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:55 pm The back 4 (well, 6 incl subs) were all ok. Brown and Kelman again the highlights. Obeiro ok too but I don’t like him as a 4, he’s wasted.
Brown like last week was absolutely knackered after 80 and Kelman just put every shot straight at the keeper
It’s almost as if Jordan is doing sh*t loads of work in there or something, isn’t it.
Or just not mobile enough to do that role for 90+ mins, often looks a yard behind the play
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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I think that raises it's own questions though, two weeks in a row the last ten the team has just collapsed fitness wise, either subs need to be better, pre-season games against better sides, going from Cheshunt to playing Bolton/Charlton is a totally different ball game or during the game the players are working too hard and thus the tank is empty at the end,
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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The Reverend wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:00 pm Performance was ok
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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If we had held on for a point, would there be the same criticism of players?
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:57 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:54 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:51 pm

Charlton stole the win aided by a terrible referee, charlton certainly weren't the better team
Yes , I agree the ref wasn't great but Charlton did finish the stronger . It's going to be a long season .
Aug-April, same as always
It's going to feel a lot longer than that going by the looks of it so far . We couldn't compete off the field with transfers so now it's looking like it's going to show on the pitch .
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:03 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:01 pm
essexfootball wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:58 pm

Brown like last week was absolutely knackered after 80 and Kelman just put every shot straight at the keeper
It’s almost as if Jordan is doing sh*t loads of work in there or something, isn’t it.
Or just not mobile enough to do that role for 90+ mins, often looks a yard behind the play
Now El Miz has gone, he’s the fittest player in the squad.

There’s a reason Wellens leaves him out there and changes everyone else.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Hoover Attack wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:05 pm
The Reverend wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:00 pm Performance was ok
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It was fine. We’ll beat the weaker teams in this division playing like that.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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I don’t think we need to be digging any players out. I thought the effort was good. We are not quite firing and are not balanced as we should be. Give RW a few games and we’ll improve.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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essexfootball wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:03 pm I think that raises it's own questions though, two weeks in a row the last ten the team has just collapsed fitness wise, either subs need to be better, pre-season games against better sides, going from Cheshunt to playing Bolton/Charlton is a totally different ball game or during the game the players are working too hard and thus the tank is empty at the end,
The starting XI have a good reason to look at the 5 that came on and question their input. Did well to keep Charlton away from Hemmings for most of the game then we bring the full bench on and the shape seemed to go to pot.

At 80 odd mins I said at home I hope we can hold on as they've fought hard for a point, alas didn't make it.
Story of O wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:05 pm If we had held on for a point, would there be the same criticism of players?
Story would've been "two teams with plenty of effort but lacking in quality". It was a very scrappy game almost more League 2 worthy than League 1 but we fell away badly at the end.
DrWindy wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:06 pm I don’t think we need to be digging any players out. I thought the effort was good. We are not quite firing and are not balanced as we should be. Give RW a few games and we’ll improve.
If players have been poor they will get get criticism, none of the subs helped the cause today so that's 5 for starters. Richie is a great manager but he needs the tools and we look short of quality in key areas still.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:05 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:57 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:54 pm

Yes , I agree the ref wasn't great but Charlton did finish the stronger . It's going to be a long season .
Aug-April, same as always
It's going to feel a lot longer than that going by the looks of it so far . We couldn't compete off the field with transfers so now it's looking like it's going to show on the pitch .
We couldnt compete last season & finished 12th, we will be fine
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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DrWindy wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:06 pm I don’t think we need to be digging any players out. I thought the effort was good. We are not quite firing and are not balanced as we should be. Give RW a few games and we’ll improve.
Agreed - no faulting the effort but clearly Charlton became the stronger of the two teams as the second half progressed and we wilted badly in the last half hour.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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DrWindy wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:06 pm I don’t think we need to be digging any players out.
Er, hello. Of course we do.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm Wellens post match will be funny, at least
Why, was he carded or did he get involved in another scuffle?
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Chief crazy horse wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:10 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm Wellens post match will be funny, at least
Why, was he carded or did he get involved in another scuffle?
Another booking to keep up his 100% record so far this season, along with Nathan Jones who is on the same :D
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:09 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:05 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:57 pm

Aug-April, same as always
It's going to feel a lot longer than that going by the looks of it so far . We couldn't compete off the field with transfers so now it's looking like it's going to show on the pitch .
We couldnt compete last season & finished 12th, we will be fine
This season is going to be tougher so I hope you're right .
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Chief crazy horse wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:10 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm Wellens post match will be funny, at least
Why, was he carded or did he get involved in another scuffle?
Booked for enthusiastically clapping one of our players. The referee misinterpreted it as sarcasm aimed his way for another sh*t decision.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Chief crazy horse wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:10 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm Wellens post match will be funny, at least
Why, was he carded or did he get involved in another scuffle?
Yep and don’t think he’ll be too pleased with that second half. We looked very naive at the end
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:15 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:09 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:05 pm

It's going to feel a lot longer than that going by the looks of it so far . We couldn't compete off the field with transfers so now it's looking like it's going to show on the pitch .
We couldnt compete last season & finished 12th, we will be fine
This season is going to be tougher so I hope you're right .
Don't personally see it tougher.
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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The Reverend wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:00 pm

And why does Jordan Brown struggle to play a semi-decent forward pass?
Because he just isn't that good, got dogs abuse for it but he is just another Clay type player, runner and gets stuck jn but technical wise he is a league two footballer. Every team needs runners but there is nothing special about him
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:30 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:15 pm
Rubex Kube wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:09 pm

We couldnt compete last season & finished 12th, we will be fine
This season is going to be tougher so I hope you're right .
Don't personally see it tougher.
Richie Welles would disagree with you .
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Re: Exiles/Matchday thread vs Charlton

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Chief crazy horse wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:10 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm Wellens post match will be funny, at least
Why, was he carded or did he get involved in another scuffle?
Verbal at the Ref
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