Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:07 pm
"Both sidesing" it, is it?
You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.
Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?
No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:07 pm
"Both sidesing" it, is it?
You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.
Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?
No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.
It's almost like the far right have realised they've gone to far & are now trying to hide under the cover of but what about them
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:07 pm
"Both sidesing" it, is it?
You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.
Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?
No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.
You post that and you call me a clown
Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.
You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.
Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?
No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.
You post that and you call me a clown
Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.
Which side is rioting, looting, attacking Muslims, burning down hotels housing immigrants and attacking Police?
You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.
Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?
No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.
You post that and you call me a clown
Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.
No, you're simply removing any lingering doubt as to how silly you are.
No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.
You post that and you call me a clown
Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.
No, you're simply removing any lingering doubt as to how silly you are.
Labour MP Josh Fenton-Glynn retweets and spreads misinformation.
I've avoided posting many images or videos from the last few nights, but some of what is being shared online is beyond anything I ever expected to see on UK streets. It feels like something just got permanently broken.
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:17 pm
What are the sides in this? What are these people protesting? The Southport attacker has been apprehended and he's not an immigrant.
They're not protesting. They are rioting and looting and beating up black people.
They are the scum of the earth. The dregs of society being flamed up by nazi organisers.
Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:22 pm
I've avoided posting many images or videos from the last few nights, but some of what is being shared online is beyond anything I ever expected to see on UK streets. It feels like something just got permanently broken.
BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:45 pm
Which side is rioting, looting, attacking Muslims, burning down hotels housing immigrants and attacking Police?
Well it isn’t the left so shut up.
Far right thugs, racist thugs, mindless thugs, what's the point you're trying to make?
Blimey, well you seemed to be trying to deflect blame from the right by highlighting a single dumb post. As others have pointed out this is of almost zero consequence compared to the absolute torrent of right wing hate posts.
Secondly, it’s the right causing all the civil unrest and violence. It seemed appropriate to point this out to you as you seemed not to notice that.
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:17 pm
What are the sides in this? What are these people protesting? The Southport attacker has been apprehended and he's not an immigrant.
The rioters (or, as should be said, those who are stirring things up online) are not even claiming this has anything to do with Southport anymore. Depending on who you listen to, it's either about resisting Islam or all immigration. Their argument being that they tried the ballot box (I.e. Brexit), but were taken for mugs, so now have to make their feelings known by smashing their town centres to pieces and beating people up.
Although, I doubt 99% of those on the streets have ever thought things through to even that shallow level. They're just there for the sh*ts and giggles of nicking some sausage rolls or setting fire to a hotel with people still inside.
There's now (unverified) videos being circulated of tooled up Muslim gangs attacking white people. This will further fuel the tensions and feed the victim narrative. I'm just amazed there's not been a serious injury or death yet.
I also note that footage of these riots is now being shared by US and European far right social media channels as a call to arms.
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:22 pmThe dregs of society being flamed up by nazi organisers.
I detected from Starmer's limp address earlier that the influencers behind these riots are going to be targeted as part of the law enforcement backlash. Good.
But the article you posted previously made a good point how this has started with underground social media platforms (I.e. Telegram) before being fully propagated on mainstream platforms - namely X. X is a massive elephant in this room.
Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:22 pm
I've avoided posting many images or videos from the last few nights, but some of what is being shared online is beyond anything I ever expected to see on UK streets. It feels like something just got permanently broken.
I thought that after the riots in 2011. It seemed like a mindless subsection of society realised they could do whatever they wanted if they had safety in numbers. And then the repercussions started (can't remember who was in charge of prosecutions at the time).
Fully agree that this feels different as it taps into something deeper/more insidious , but too early to tell whether this is the start of something or the worst it gets. Which to be clear is pretty bad.