Have I got the wrong end of the stick?

[CEB2ElectricBoogaloo]

One example - I can imagine in 2014/15, a certain Italian might have decided on balance that there’s not much to be gained from actually providing a location where fans can have a drink and discuss how pissed off they are

Bumping this as it got lost in the back and forth

[Top of the JES]

The SC donate circa £40k to £50k a year to the FC without the FC having to do anything, the SC control the stock and ordering of beers and run the always popular real ale evenings and have won countless awards and there is always a good choice with guest beers on a match day. not to mention arranging away travel for fans and the work remembering and promoting the remembrance of those who fell on the Somme,

I suspect that someone at the club has promised Sheperd Neame access to the SC to pour their beer.

Having the SC and the FC running the same bar won’t work. There would be accountability issues for stock and other issues it’s a step too far IMHO

[WilliamTell]

Plenty of Money to be made from the New Flats opposite. If the club can earn some extra coin when the supporters club isn't being used,they should take it.

A landlord I spoke to said people don't drink locally. When I supported Essex there were loads of people alighting at Chelmsford, hoads getting on. The same was happening at Romford and Ilford.

[Monkey Boy]

The SC donate circa £40k to £50k a year to the FC without the FC having to do anything, the SC control the stock and ordering of beers and run the always popular real ale evenings and have won countless awards and there is always a good choice with guest beers on a match day. not to mention arranging away travel for fans and the work remembering and promoting the remembrance of those who fell on the Somme,

I suspect that someone at the club has promised Sheperd Neame access to the SC to pour their beer.

Having the SC and the FC running the same bar won’t work. There would be accountability issues for stock and other issues it’s a step too far IMHO

My thoughts exactly Jes, but if I would have said it all hell would break loose. My guess is they made a deal with the brewery company and that incorporated selling there products on all sides of the ground. The club is looking to generate more money which is understandable however doing it in imo in an underhanded way is not the right thing to do. Reading the news letter which I received stated that the supporters club gave the club a 50k donation which in my view is very generous. Also people volunteered there time for nothing. I don’t know who’s idea it is but I could take a good guess, probably the same person who promoted early ST’s knowing full well that a lot of games were going to be shown on sky and that would of affected the attendances. Do I blame the club. No. They have to find a way to generate income but don’t do it in an underhanded way. What I would like to know is why this extra income (sky money,Streaming,catering,player’s fees received) hasn’t been invested into the playing budget because to me quality or numbers has not been brought in. Why am I saying this,is it because as suggested I want to stir it up. No because I don’t want all the hard work over the previous seasons wasted.

[Top of the JES]

While we can agree on the SC , I don’t agree with your gloomy prognosis on the playing side. The only players we have lost who contributed greatly last season were Ruel and Idris. El Mizouni was always a long shot to keep. RW has confirmed that wages have sky rocketed and there is loads of money being spent in L1. We spent more than we budgeted (£4.4 million) on wages last season our budget this season is 10% higher so it’s almost certainly affecting who we can get in. We lost out on a holding midfielder to replace Idris to Wycombe who according to Richie shocked him with their wage offer. So he has gone down a different route signing a player with great potential in Lewis Warrington. We also offered Vigs a contract which he declined so it’s not lack of ambition holding us back. RW would like another couple of players before the window closes so let’s see what we get.

The club are under a lot of pressure at the moment trying to find a new training ground and stadium site - all very expensive. Luckily we have one of the best managers we have ever had I trust him to guide us to at least a mid table finish,

[The Reverend]

One example - I can imagine in 2014/15, a certain Italian might have decided on balance that there’s not much to be gained from actually providing a location where fans can have a drink and discuss how pissed off they are

Definitely think this would have happened

Replying to yourself. Interesting. Did you forget which account you had logged in when you wrote that reply?

[Monkey Boy]

While we can agree on the SC , I don’t agree with your gloomy prognosis on the playing side. The only players we have lost who contributed greatly last season were Ruel and Idris. And El Mizouni was always a long shot to keep. RW has confirmed that wages have sky rocketed and there is loads of money being spent in L1. We spent more than we budgeted (£4.4 million) on wages last season our budget this season is 10% higher so it’s almost certainly affecting who we can get in. We lost out on a holding midfielder to replace Idris to Wycombe who according to Richie shocked him with their wage offer. So he has gone down a different route signing a player with great potential in Lewis Warrington. We also offered Vigs a contract which he declined so it’s not lack of ambition holding us back. RW would like another couple of players before the window closes so let’s see what we get.

The club are under a lot of pressure at the moment trying to find a new training ground and stadium, all very expensive. Luckily we have one of the best managers we have ever had I trust him to guide us to at least a mid table finish,

I agree with your assessment as a whole Jes, think what people maybe forgetting is RW new contract, I think it must of been pretty high thus taking some money out of the budget perhaps and probably the same with Terry? Have to disagree slightly with the calibre of signings so far. The way I look at it is paying a fee for the Wigan lad, but there were plenty of good free’s available at the start of the window. If they payed say 25/50 k for him surely getting a free in a month early wouldn’t equate to paying 25/50k? Personally I think we are short of 3 players

[Top of the JES]

While we can agree on the SC , I don’t agree with your gloomy prognosis on the playing side. The only players we have lost who contributed greatly last season were Ruel and Idris. And El Mizouni was always a long shot to keep. RW has confirmed that wages have sky rocketed and there is loads of money being spent in L1. We spent more than we budgeted (£4.4 million) on wages last season our budget this season is 10% higher so it’s almost certainly affecting who we can get in. We lost out on a holding midfielder to replace Idris to Wycombe who according to Richie shocked him with their wage offer. So he has gone down a different route signing a player with great potential in Lewis Warrington. We also offered Vigs a contract which he declined so it’s not lack of ambition holding us back. RW would like another couple of players before the window closes so let’s see what we get.

The club are under a lot of pressure at the moment trying to find a new training ground and stadium, all very expensive. Luckily we have one of the best managers we have ever had I trust him to guide us to at least a mid table finish,

I agree with your assessment as a whole Jes, think what people maybe forgetting is RW new contract, I think it must of been pretty high thus taking some money out of the budget perhaps and probably the same with Terry? Have to disagree slightly with the calibre of signings so far. The way I look at it is paying a fee for the Wigan lad, but there were plenty of good free’s available at the start of the window. If they payed say 25/50 k for him surely getting a free in a month early wouldn’t equate to paying 25/50k? Personally I think we are short of 3 players

Clare can play RB CH DM or as a box to box midfield player so with 200+ games experience 165 in League One. It’s money well spent. We need a winger and another forward.IMHO.

[Monkey Boy]

While we can agree on the SC , I don’t agree with your gloomy prognosis on the playing side. The only players we have lost who contributed greatly last season were Ruel and Idris. And El Mizouni was always a long shot to keep. RW has confirmed that wages have sky rocketed and there is loads of money being spent in L1. We spent more than we budgeted (£4.4 million) on wages last season our budget this season is 10% higher so it’s almost certainly affecting who we can get in. We lost out on a holding midfielder to replace Idris to Wycombe who according to Richie shocked him with their wage offer. So he has gone down a different route signing a player with great potential in Lewis Warrington. We also offered Vigs a contract which he declined so it’s not lack of ambition holding us back. RW would like another couple of players before the window closes so let’s see what we get.

The club are under a lot of pressure at the moment trying to find a new training ground and stadium, all very expensive. Luckily we have one of the best managers we have ever had I trust him to guide us to at least a mid table finish,

I agree with your assessment as a whole Jes, think what people maybe forgetting is RW new contract, I think it must of been pretty high thus taking some money out of the budget perhaps and probably the same with Terry? Have to disagree slightly with the calibre of signings so far. The way I look at it is paying a fee for the Wigan lad, but there were plenty of good free’s available at the start of the window. If they payed say 25/50 k for him surely getting a free in a month early wouldn’t equate to paying 25/50k? Personally I think we are short of 3 players

Clare can play RB CH DM or as a box to box midfield player so with 200+ games experience 165 in League One. It’s money well spent. We need a winger and another forward.IMHO.

According to RW podcast he wants a winger and midfielder.

[Top of the JES]

I agree with your assessment as a whole Jes, think what people maybe forgetting is RW new contract, I think it must of been pretty high thus taking some money out of the budget perhaps and probably the same with Terry? Have to disagree slightly with the calibre of signings so far. The way I look at it is paying a fee for the Wigan lad, but there were plenty of good free’s available at the start of the window. If they payed say 25/50 k for him surely getting a free in a month early wouldn’t equate to paying 25/50k? Personally I think we are short of 3 players

Clare can play RB CH DM or as a box to box midfield player so with 200+ games experience 165 in League One. It’s money well spent. We need a winger and another forward.IMHO.

According to RW podcast he wants a winger and midfielder.

I know but personally I would like to see another forward.

[gshaw]

While we can agree on the SC , I don’t agree with your gloomy prognosis on the playing side. The only players we have lost who contributed greatly last season were Ruel and Idris.

I'd include Forde in that list too, ended up making that wide spot his own

[redintheface]

Given the restricted budget I can’t imagine a midfielder being brought in until such time as George Moncur’s future at the club is decided one way or the other. If bringing in a winger is on the cards , then I’d hope the individual can also do a job as a left wing back as personally I’m not sold on Sweeney as first choice and James has played his best football for us on the right imho.

[Monkey Boy]

Given the restricted budget I can’t imagine a midfielder being brought in until such time as George Moncur’s future at the club is decided one way or the other. If bringing in a winger is on the cards , then I’d hope the individual can also do a job as a left wing back as personally I’m not sold on Sweeney as first choice and James has played his best football for us on the right imho.

Perhaps RW is keeping his cards close to his chest? Yes we do need another forward imo but don’t think we will get one. We also don’t score many from midfield so there will be expectations on Gailbraith. You are correct Sweeney is not good enough. Looking at the clubs in the division and second season syndrome I think we will be in the bottom 8 but have enough to stay up

[RedDwarf 1881]

Clare can play RB CH DM or as a box to box midfield player so with 200+ games experience 165 in League One. It’s money well spent. We need a winger and another forward.IMHO.

According to RW podcast he wants a winger and midfielder.

I know but personally I would like to see another forward.

Our squad is crying out for another striker . For the right player a season long loan would do .

[RedDwarf 1881]

Given the restricted budget I can’t imagine a midfielder being brought in until such time as George Moncur’s future at the club is decided one way or the other. If bringing in a winger is on the cards , then I’d hope the individual can also do a job as a left wing back as personally I’m not sold on Sweeney as first choice and James has played his best football for us on the right imho.

I've watched Sweeney play loads of times . No way is he a League One first choice LB.

[Brigs]

Plenty of Money to be made from the New Flats opposite. If the club can earn some extra coin when the supporters club isn't being used,they should take it.

A landlord I spoke to said people don't drink locally.

Funny a Landlord I spoke to said loads of people still drink locally

[aylesburyos]

Plenty of Money to be made from the New Flats opposite. If the club can earn some extra coin when the supporters club isn't being used,they should take it.

A landlord I spoke to said people don't drink locally. When I supported Essex there were loads of people alighting at Chelmsford, hoads getting on. The same was happening at Romford and Ilford.

Loads of locals in E10 love a drink and a night out. What landlord did you speak to?