Bury Fc
Moderator: Long slender neck
- Long slender neck
- MB Legend
- Posts: 14285
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
- Has thanked: 2499 times
- Been thanked: 3290 times
- Max B Gold
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12287
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:12 pm
- Has thanked: 975 times
- Been thanked: 2792 times
Re: Bury Fc
Yes because the Creditors Voluntary Arragement (CVA) was voted through.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:52 pm But Bury have agreed to pay 25% of this £7m haven't they?
- Long slender neck
- MB Legend
- Posts: 14285
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
- Has thanked: 2499 times
- Been thanked: 3290 times
Re: Bury Fc
Stupid decision from the administrators then, why not vote it through themselves?
I guess Dale wouldn't have done the CVA at all, unless he was rigging it to pay himself a couple of mill?
I guess Dale wouldn't have done the CVA at all, unless he was rigging it to pay himself a couple of mill?
Re: Bury Fc
That's a possibility.
But also, administrators have to be paid out of the liquidated assets before the other creditors. And the longer a business is in administration, the higher the administrator costs so part of their duty is to not unduly prolong the administration process. Selling on a risky debt speeds up the liquidation.
But also, administrators have to be paid out of the liquidated assets before the other creditors. And the longer a business is in administration, the higher the administrator costs so part of their duty is to not unduly prolong the administration process. Selling on a risky debt speeds up the liquidation.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 3777
- Joined: Fri May 10, 2019 11:04 am
- Has thanked: 263 times
- Been thanked: 324 times
Re: Bury Fc
Hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel for Bury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433
- slacker
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1764
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:39 am
- Has thanked: 80 times
- Been thanked: 346 times
Re: Bury Fc
Alistair Campbell’s son involved! Wonder who’s funding the bid (which is subject to further due diligence)? Can’t believe his C&N Sporting Risk consultancy is awash with millions, though they have clearly some experience of sports and betting finance.
I hope Dale doesn’t come out this making money, but the dodgy playing of the distressed “assets” Administration game may well pay off for him. Even Hearn might blanche at that ruse. Capitalism at its very worst.
I hope Dale doesn’t come out this making money, but the dodgy playing of the distressed “assets” Administration game may well pay off for him. Even Hearn might blanche at that ruse. Capitalism at its very worst.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 3357
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:08 pm
- Has thanked: 1158 times
- Been thanked: 496 times
Re: Bury Fc
I would like to see policeor BEIS investigate Dale's dealings over Bury.
If there has not been criminal behaviour, then perhaps our laws need looking at and revising
- F*ck The Poor & Fat
- Regular
- Posts: 3101
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:12 am
- Has thanked: 238 times
- Been thanked: 380 times
Re: Bury Fc
Really hope so. Bury deserve the right to continue as a league club.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:26 am Hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel for Bury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433
- ComeOnYouOs
- Regular
- Posts: 3841
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:22 pm
- Awards: Colossal berk
- Has thanked: 79 times
- Been thanked: 1054 times
Re: Bury Fc
I agree with spen ( blimey did I just say that?)...the police need to look at the 'goings on' over the last 9 months, because Dale seems as dodgy a character as can be, & I would not be surprised at all, if some illegality was present in the financial dealings
- Max B Gold
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12287
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:12 pm
- Has thanked: 975 times
- Been thanked: 2792 times
Re: Bury Fc
I don't rule out criminality but Company Law is drafted in such a way that unscrupulous operators can drive a coach and horses through it to their financial gain. This is especially true in the case of insolvency events.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:42 pm I agree with spen ( blimey did I just say that?)...the police need to look at the 'goings on' over the last 9 months, because Dale seems as dodgy a character as can be, & I would not be surprised at all, if some illegality was present in the financial dealings
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1735
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:18 pm
- Has thanked: 92 times
- Been thanked: 244 times
Re: Bury Fc
Bolton are fulfilling their fixtures but at what cost and for how long? Today's match was watched by a record low crowd and they were thrashed 5-0 by Ipswich. Kevin Nolan has expressed his interest in the vacant managers job, at least the p**s ups will be memorable if he gets it.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1735
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:18 pm
- Has thanked: 92 times
- Been thanked: 244 times
Re: Bury Fc
EFL gives Bury Tuesday deadline for Campbell takeover to go through.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/english ... spartanntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/english ... spartanntp
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1474
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:06 pm
- Has thanked: 162 times
- Been thanked: 443 times
Re: Bury Fc
Quite, if Dale comes out quids in it sends exactly the wrong message to the vultures who gather round every struggling clubslacker wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:17 am Alistair Campbell’s son involved! Wonder who’s funding the bid (which is subject to further due diligence)? Can’t believe his C&N Sporting Risk consultancy is awash with millions, though they have clearly some experience of sports and betting finance.
I hope Dale doesn’t come out this making money, but the dodgy playing of the distressed “assets” Administration game may well pay off for him. Even Hearn might blanche at that ruse. Capitalism at its very worst.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1735
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:18 pm
- Has thanked: 92 times
- Been thanked: 244 times
Re: Bury Fc
Bury FC: EFL may extend Tuesday deadline if sale almost complete.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49465036
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49465036
-
- Regular
- Posts: 4659
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:48 pm
- Has thanked: 2052 times
- Been thanked: 1672 times
Re: Bury Fc
Innocent until proven guilty, mate.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1086
- Joined: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:37 am
- Has thanked: 326 times
- Been thanked: 113 times
Re: Bury Fc
He never said anyone was guilty, just that the dealings do look strange and for clarity maybe the Police or BEIS could run an experienced eye over the dealingsProposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:44 amInnocent until proven guilty, mate.
-
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12472
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:06 am
- Has thanked: 7 times
- Been thanked: 2555 times
Re: Bury Fc
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:49 amReally hope so. Bury deserve the right to continue as a league club.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:26 am Hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel for Bury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433
Absolutely.
-
- Tiresome troll
- Posts: 1735
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:18 pm
- Has thanked: 92 times
- Been thanked: 244 times
Re: Bury Fc
Bolton Wanderers' future under renewed threat after takeover deal collapses.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49470865
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49470865
- Max B Gold
- MB Legend
- Posts: 12287
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:12 pm
- Has thanked: 975 times
- Been thanked: 2792 times
Re: Bury Fc
I'm going to chalenge that and here's why.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:50 pmdOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:49 amReally hope so. Bury deserve the right to continue as a league club.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:26 am Hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel for Bury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49455433
Absolutely.
They spent money they couldn't afford and gained promotion by doing so and then used an insolvency device to write off 75% of the debt. They skewed the playing field and effectively cheated the other promotion candidates. Ok so they get a points penalty for the insolvency but the crime has been committed. What happened to the EFP financial fair play rules?
-
- Regular
- Posts: 3357
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:08 pm
- Has thanked: 1158 times
- Been thanked: 496 times
Re: Bury Fc
erm, that is why I said to investigate and why I said about the situation if there has been no criminal behaviourProposition Joe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:44 amInnocent until proven guilty, mate.
I have never for one minute said that Dale or anyone has committed any offence. Merely there should be an investigation
- Long slender neck
- MB Legend
- Posts: 14285
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
- Has thanked: 2499 times
- Been thanked: 3290 times
-
- Regular
- Posts: 4659
- Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:48 pm
- Has thanked: 2052 times
- Been thanked: 1672 times
Re: Bury Fc
Administrator allegedly dragging the sale out, complications over the sale of the Club being tied up with the onsite hotel, then a prospective owner (already previously banned from being Director of a football club and involved in failed takeovers elsewhere) took them to Court in a tantrum over not being chosen...now it looks like the former owner Anderson (or current? Not 100% certain how some aspects of Administration work) has scuppered the agreed deal at the last minute.
Be somewhat ironic if Bury survived and they didn't.
Be somewhat ironic if Bury survived and they didn't.
- Long slender neck
- MB Legend
- Posts: 14285
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
- Has thanked: 2499 times
- Been thanked: 3290 times
Re: Bury Fc
Background of it all
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... or-villain
Not sure what to believe in that article though.
Looks like previous owner Davies wrote off £175m of loans
Got an outstanding £6k pasty bill apparently
https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... or-villain
Not sure what to believe in that article though.
Looks like previous owner Davies wrote off £175m of loans
Got an outstanding £6k pasty bill apparently
- Long slender neck
- MB Legend
- Posts: 14285
- Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
- Has thanked: 2499 times
- Been thanked: 3290 times