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Dunners wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:31 pm
Beradogs wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:21 pm
Dunners wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:10 pm Makes sense. Despite being a busted flush, Farage still has the skills to cause both Starmer and Sunak a headache in an TV debate.
Not a busted flush. He thinks he can get reform up to 20% and a greater vote share than the tories. I think he has a real chance and it would be everything the Tories deserve.
Now to be known as The Corbyn Fallacy; it's not the number of votes, or even the vote share that really matters. It's having enough votes combined with wide distribution that makes the difference. You can have the popular vote but, unless they're distributed in the right way, I still don't see Reform getting more than one MP for Dumpsville.

But, him taking over (which, as the majority shareholder of Reform UK he was clearly going to do anyway), he will squeeze those Tory votes even further and hand more seats to Labour. Therefore there could still be a sizeable brown envelope coming his way from the Tories.
No, sure. They still won’t win many if any seats.
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He will be my MP and then the remaining Tory MP's will trickle over to Reform throughout the next parliament.
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Poor, gotcha, journalism, but still:

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The Mindsweep wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:42 pm He will be my MP and then the remaining Tory MP's will trickle over to Reform throughout the next parliament.
His aim is to take over the Tories as his hero did with the republican party. If he's elected he'll defect to then straight after the election to go for the leadership and more than likely win. If there was a way of doing it before the election most of the mp's and membership would likely go for it.
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Hopefully he'll make it 8 out of 8 though.
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Think you’re right in terms of his intentions, but hopefully he falls at the first hurdle again

(Ah, beat me to it)
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I don't think Farage will join the Tories any time soon, I think he genuinely despises them. I know a week is a long time in politics but I really don't see it.

Also, it would go against things he said he wants to do in his announcement today.
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I don’t think Farage genuinely experiences anything other than his own self interest.

Despising the party would be more likely to motivate a c*** like that to attempt to reshape them in his own image. He’d see them as a vehicle for his ego rather than as an organisation he’d want to contribute to
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He’s already said that he wants to recreate what the Reform Party Canada did in splitting the Conservative Party vote to the extent they merged and the Conservatives shifted rightwards and rebranded
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I suspect you may be right.

It's poor political analysis to write off people like Farage as egomaniacs because there is a far right fascist agenda behind it which is trying to build a platform.
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faldO wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:14 pm I don't think Farage will join the Tories any time soon, I think he genuinely despises them. I know a week is a long time in politics but I really don't see it.

Also, it would go against things he said he wants to do in his announcement today.
He despised the European Parliament but was happy to sit in it as an MEP.
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FrankOFile wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:36 am
Yanzi Gravy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:55 pm
That didn’t last then. Wonder if he is going back cap in hand to LBC? Then again, I always thought he would be good on QT or Newsnight
You couldn’t make it up.
Well no sooner had he quit he was back on LBC last night. I missed most of the show. He must have been really missed to just walk back in.
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Gammon central

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:lol:

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Seeing people condemning this with “it could have been anything!”

Surely that’s an issue for the security staff? The girl who threw it was in no doubt what it was, so from her perspective it couldn’t have been anything.
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Almost feel sorry for the people of Clacton. One of the most impoverished areas of the country and just regularly used by right wing cranks as the best chance to get elected. Farage obviously won't do anything for those in Jaywick living on or below the breadline.
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Looks like banana flavour
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Using violence against your political enemies

Sounds pretty fascist to me
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Proposition Joe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:59 pm Almost feel sorry for the people of Clacton. One of the most impoverished areas of the country and just regularly used by right wing cranks as the best chance to get elected. Farage obviously won't do anything for those in Jaywick living on or below the breadline.
5 reasons Farage will represent Jaywick well: :ugeek:

Express their opinions in the commons instead of party line

Action to tackle our housing crisis

Get NHS waiting lists down

Lowering immigration numbers massively in line with their views

Ending our membership of the ECHR
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You've listed 4 policies. Now outline how the UK's sole Reform Party MP would achieve any of those things.
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Farage’s ideas will spread and I imagine the Tories will swoop in and steal them once they realise their mass interest and Eagleitarian appeal
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Proposition Joe wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:05 pm You've listed 4 policies. Now outline how the UK's sole Reform Party MP would achieve any of those things.

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I, er, was being sarcastic. Fooled you all and you look silly.

(Am I getting this right?)
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Max B Gold wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:14 pm :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

His milkshake brings all the thugs to the march.
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