Labour Watch

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Whoever wins, we lose

[Max B Gold]

[Hoover Attack]

Oopsie.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... she%20said.

[StillSpike]

So?

[Long slender neck]

So you're tarring a whole nation because of what some protesters did?

[Max B Gold]

Nice try. All I did was post somebody else's tweet on an incident(s) in a foreign land.

The question I'm asking by doing so is this:

Should Labour MPs be supporting the actions of a far right government and not condemn its genocidal actions and those of its supporters?

Now that I have explained the question do you have any thoughts on it?

[Currywurst and Chips]

Strange you didn’t just ask that question then instead of posting a tweet by someone else asking a different question.

Maybe stop outsourcing your thinking to Twitter.

[Max B Gold]

Strange you didn’t just ask that question then instead of posting a tweet by someone else asking a different question.

Maybe stop outsourcing your thinking to Twitter.

Never

[Long slender neck]

Nice try. All I did was post somebody else's tweet on an incident(s) in a foreign land.

The question I'm asking by doing so is this:

Should Labour MPs be supporting the actions of a far right government and not condemn its genocidal actions and those of its supporters?

Now that I have explained the question do you have any thoughts on it?

I'd rather Labour be friends with Israel than the leader be friends with Hamas.

[Max B Gold]

Nice try. All I did was post somebody else's tweet on an incident(s) in a foreign land.

The question I'm asking by doing so is this:

Should Labour MPs be supporting the actions of a far right government and not condemn its genocidal actions and those of its supporters?

Now that I have explained the question do you have any thoughts on it?

I'd rather Labour be friends with Israel than the leader be friends with Hamas.

Clever, very clever but I'm left wondering if their might be a third option and not be fwends with any murderous entities at all. Just a thought.

[Max B Gold]

Time to get this thread back to Labour failures. Let's start with this refusal to commit to relieving child poverty from Sir Kid Starver aka Tel Aviv Keith.

[StillSpike]

He's constantly making promises that he can't deliver on.

[Hoover Attack]

So?

She went to a private school.

[Dunners]

He's constantly making promises that he can't deliver on.

His argument to that would be that he's now rowing back/breaking promises that were previously made, and that he's doing that before the election and not after. Therefore, whatever promises are left by the time of the election, we can be confident that they will at least deliver deliver on them.

A Labour government is just going to be a more technically capable management team. And, right now, I'd take that.

[Hoover Attack]

So you're tarring a whole nation because of what some protesters did?

Kind of like tarring a whole nation because of what some (as proscribed by the UK Govenrnment) terrorists have done.

[Long slender neck]

Not really.

[StillSpike]

So?

She went to a private school.

And what's that got to do with the price of fish?

Her parents made a decision when she was a child, and she's not allowed to have an opinion on VAT on private school fees ?

[Hoover Attack]

Not really.

But it really is.

[Admin]

He's constantly making promises that he can't deliver on.

His argument to that would be that he's now rowing back/breaking promises that were previously made, and that he's doing that before the election and not after. Therefore, whatever promises are left by the time of the election, we can be confident that they will at least deliver deliver on them.

A Labour government is just going to be a more technically capable management team. And, right now, I'd take that.

I'm not arguing your logic but it's a pretty low bar to be encouraged for someone who's going to deliver what looks to be next to f*** all but do it in an a more efficient manner than the current incumbents.

[Dunners]

He's constantly making promises that he can't deliver on.

His argument to that would be that he's now rowing back/breaking promises that were previously made, and that he's doing that before the election and not after. Therefore, whatever promises are left by the time of the election, we can be confident that they will at least deliver deliver on them.

A Labour government is just going to be a more technically capable management team. And, right now, I'd take that.

I'm not arguing your logic but it's a pretty low bar to be encouraged for someone who's going to deliver what looks to be next to f*** all in an efficient manner.

Agreed. But that's where the bar is nowadays.

[Admin]

His argument to that would be that he's now rowing back/breaking promises that were previously made, and that he's doing that before the election and not after. Therefore, whatever promises are left by the time of the election, we can be confident that they will at least deliver deliver on them.

A Labour government is just going to be a more technically capable management team. And, right now, I'd take that.

I'm not arguing your logic but it's a pretty low bar to be encouraged for someone who's going to deliver what looks to be next to f*** all in an efficient manner.

Agreed. But that's where the bar is nowadays.

It'll go lower yet. Wait till the election campaign starts for real. It'll be an all round miserable poo poo-fest.

[OyinbO]

He's constantly making promises that he can't deliver on.

His argument to that would be that he's now rowing back/breaking promises that were previously made, and that he's doing that before the election and not after. Therefore, whatever promises are left by the time of the election, we can be confident that they will at least deliver deliver on them.

A Labour government is just going to be a more technically capable management team. And, right now, I'd take that.

I'm not arguing your logic but it's a pretty low bar to be encouraged for someone who's going to deliver what looks to be next to f*** all but do it in an a more efficient manner than the current incumbents.

They are going to inherit a total shitshow, so it's right that they manage expectations accordingly. Also, having lost four elections in a row, each time with an increasing sense of adventure, leading to progressively worse results, it's not surprising they're doing "don't frighten the horses" this time around.

[Max B Gold]

His argument to that would be that he's now rowing back/breaking promises that were previously made, and that he's doing that before the election and not after. Therefore, whatever promises are left by the time of the election, we can be confident that they will at least deliver deliver on them.

A Labour government is just going to be a more technically capable management team. And, right now, I'd take that.

I'm not arguing your logic but it's a pretty low bar to be encouraged for someone who's going to deliver what looks to be next to f*** all but do it in an a more efficient manner than the current incumbents.

They are going to inherit a total shitshow, so it's right that they manage expectations accordingly. Also, having lost four elections in a row, each time with an increasing sense of adventure, leading to progressively worse results, it's not surprising they're doing "don't frighten the horses" this time around.

It's not true to say the results were progressively worse. Please don't go down that road. 2017 was a close call and recorded a much better Labour vote than the two previous attempts.

The don't spook the voters election approach is noted but from a political perspective it is the Xtreme Centre letting Labour have a turn at managing the neo liberal agenda.

[Long slender neck]

If Corbyn were still leader, I think he'd have a half decent chance of forming the next government, but not as good a chance as Sir Kier.

[OyinbO]

If Corbyn were still leader, I think he'd have a half decent chance of forming the next government, but not as good a chance as Sir Kier.

Interesting thought experiment. But how can you imagine a world where JC stays in charge after delivering the second worst outcome for Labour since they became a major party? Also - party leaders' popularity only ever goes one way, and once the punters have made their minds up about someone, that's it. It's happening with Sunak and pals now, the electorate has just stopped listening to them.