VAR could be scrapped.
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Re: VAR could be scrapped.
I think VAR has added an extra dimension and layer of dramatic tension to the game.
Events can happen so quickly - I have recently looked at a Cheating in Football video on Youtube. In real time the goals, penalty appeals, feigned injuries etc look genuine - but looking at the action slowly, one can see that Cheating has taken place.
Imagine if there was VAR in Maradonna's Hand of God game? Mostly likely he would have been sent off and England would have won.
I do feel that VAR evidence should be shown on big screens so that paying fans can understand why decisions have been made.
England gave football to the world and now it has donated VAR. Imagine if it was stopped here but still in practice across the globe. What a farce that would be.
Events can happen so quickly - I have recently looked at a Cheating in Football video on Youtube. In real time the goals, penalty appeals, feigned injuries etc look genuine - but looking at the action slowly, one can see that Cheating has taken place.
Imagine if there was VAR in Maradonna's Hand of God game? Mostly likely he would have been sent off and England would have won.
I do feel that VAR evidence should be shown on big screens so that paying fans can understand why decisions have been made.
England gave football to the world and now it has donated VAR. Imagine if it was stopped here but still in practice across the globe. What a farce that would be.
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Re: VAR could be scrapped.
The History of the Offside Rule
CATEGORY: THE BEAUTIFUL GAME
Even during the early years of soccer, the problem with players “goal hanging” was evident. Players would stand around the goal waiting for the right opportunity. In order to prevent this, the offside rule was born. Let’s take a look at the history of the offside rule.
http://www.sidelinesoccer.com/history-o ... fside-rule
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Re: VAR could be scrapped.
Premier League statistics show that 96% of decisions are now correct with VAR, rather than 82% beforehand.
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What's so bad about goal hanging. Just imagine how stretched the game would be. With more space comes more goals.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 3:21 pmThe History of the Offside Rule
CATEGORY: THE BEAUTIFUL GAME
Even during the early years of soccer, the problem with players “goal hanging” was evident. Players would stand around the goal waiting for the right opportunity. In order to prevent this, the offside rule was born. Let’s take a look at the history of the offside rule. See below: looks like the penalty box WAS included.
http://www.sidelinesoccer.com/history-o ... fside-rule
Back in the 70s, the Scotch League Cup tried a variant of abolishing offside.
No idea if it worked.
Unadopted experiments
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During the 1973–74 and 1974–75 seasons, an experimental version of the offside rule was operated in the Scottish League Cup and Drybrough Cup competitions.[105] The concept was that offside should only apply in the last 18 yards (16 m) of play (inside or beside the penalty area).[105] To signify this, the horizontal line of the penalty area was extended to the touchlines.[105] FIFA President Sir Stanley Rous attended the 1973 Scottish League Cup Final, which was played using these rules.[105] The manager of one of the teams involved, Celtic manager Jock Stein, complained that it was unfair to expect teams to play under one set of rules in one game and then a different set a few days before or later.[105] The experiment was quietly dropped after the 1974–75 season, as no proposal for a further experiment or rule change was submitted for the Scottish Football Association board to consider.[105] It was briefly experimented again in the 1991 FIFA U-17 World Championship, in Italy.[106]
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Re: VAR could be scrapped.
If only there were a way to work out if the thing that was trialled and not used worked or not
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Re: VAR could be scrapped.
Thank you for flagging this issue.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 4:52 pmWhat's so bad about goal hanging. Just imagine how stretched the game would be. With more space comes more goals.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 3:21 pmThe History of the Offside Rule
CATEGORY: THE BEAUTIFUL GAME
Even during the early years of soccer, the problem with players “goal hanging” was evident. Players would stand around the goal waiting for the right opportunity. In order to prevent this, the offside rule was born. Let’s take a look at the history of the offside rule. See below: looks like the penalty box WAS included.
http://www.sidelinesoccer.com/history-o ... fside-rule
Back in the 70s, the Scotch League Cup tried a variant of abolishing offside.
No idea if it worked.
Unadopted experiments
This from Wiki
During the 1973–74 and 1974–75 seasons, an experimental version of the offside rule was operated in the Scottish League Cup and Drybrough Cup competitions.[105] The concept was that offside should only apply in the last 18 yards (16 m) of play (inside or beside the penalty area).[105] To signify this, the horizontal line of the penalty area was extended to the touchlines.[105] FIFA President Sir Stanley Rous attended the 1973 Scottish League Cup Final, which was played using these rules.[105] The manager of one of the teams involved, Celtic manager Jock Stein, complained that it was unfair to expect teams to play under one set of rules in one game and then a different set a few days before or later.[105] The experiment was quietly dropped after the 1974–75 season, as no proposal for a further experiment or rule change was submitted for the Scottish Football Association board to consider.[105] It was briefly experimented again in the 1991 FIFA U-17 World Championship, in Italy.[106]
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Re: VAR could be scrapped.
Ever alert CEB said this was possibly one of my worst posts ever but I doubt that. A quick look back at my posts over the years will reveal there were some right stinkers amongst them.
Going down the usual line though he still bit and I was then able to wheel out my next post and clearly demonstrate that on TWO occasions a modified version had in fact been trialled. Looks like it made him bang wrong about my post being rubbish. Easily confirming my rent free occupation of his head.
The snarky one is still smarting badly over our little skirmishes all over the Board. Its obvious i have won all of them hands down. This bickering needs to stop; he needs to move on or bully someone easier like the Reverend.
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Offside should be automated. You're either offside or you're not it's pretty simple.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 9:22 am If they do keep it the offside decision making has to be looked at imo. Being offside by a toenail is ridiculous,there has to be some distance between the attacking and defensive player,what ever happened to giving the offensive player the advantage when level.
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If that were ever to be made possible eg '' automated offside decisions'' then players have to be made fully informed and aware as to what the exact boundaries are as to what is and isnt offside.Adz wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 12:41 amOffside should be automated. You're either offside or you're not it's pretty simple.Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 9:22 am If they do keep it the offside decision making has to be looked at imo. Being offside by a toenail is ridiculous,there has to be some distance between the attacking and defensive player,what ever happened to giving the offensive player the advantage when level.
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Re: VAR could be scrapped.
As VAR was intended to rectify clear and obvious errors, I'd impose a 20 second rule. If VAR can't decide if someone is offside or not in that time, then it obviously isn't clear and obvious. It's the waiting around for 2 or 3 minutes while pictures are forensically analysed that is killing the game
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A simple rule of thumb. If you need to draw some lines on a TV screen to decide if someone's offside or not, then they're not.
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Thats a really good point.StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 9:32 am A simple rule of thumb. If you need to draw some lines on a TV screen to decide if someone's offside or not, then they're not.
Shame that a bit of common sense was never adopted in the first place.