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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Awful that anyone should be attacked in this way.
Seems a moot-point whether the attackers were far-right fascists. I doubt most of these types, on either side of the political spectrum, have even heard of him.
I've read 2 or 3 of his books, and though I don't agree with his stance on many levels, one thing that came across is he cares, very much, about ordinary people.
Seems a moot-point whether the attackers were far-right fascists. I doubt most of these types, on either side of the political spectrum, have even heard of him.
I've read 2 or 3 of his books, and though I don't agree with his stance on many levels, one thing that came across is he cares, very much, about ordinary people.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
No, they aren't. 'antifa' is a horrible Americanism and an umbrella term created to give a false equivalency to the behaviour to fringes on the left as right.Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:53 amAgree totally, all guises are dangerous. Though it's totalitarianism that's the dangerous thing rather then just fascism or libertarianism mislabelled as fascism.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:23 pm It isnt the first time Owen has been attacked/beaten by far right fascist types. Im not sure if they beat him up for being gay, or for being left-wing.....or both, but its disgusting that that kind of thing still happens.
I saw it reported by Owen, on twitter, and i was shocked by the many comments agreeing, he deserved it and he'll get more etc etc .
Fascism is coming back in a big way and we all have stand against it, like our fathers and grandfathers did, and we have to call it out whenever we see it, and in whatever guise it is
In regards to the most in your face facism which I guess you are referring to, the issue of Islamofascism and Wahhabism is a big one but the western left often come to the defence of these which is a major issue. This has contributed to the rise of traditional western far right fascism which also needs stamping out at the same time. The human race is f*cked.
We could even open up the debate about the far left/antifa, who are maybe the most realistic example of fascists around at the current time if we want simple labels.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
I'd like someone who has mentioned the word fascist on this thread to provide evidence of this. Just because its someone with leftist leanings, it does not mean someone from the right has beaten them up - or "far right types". Dressing it up as political masks what's probably the true situation.
These are low-life scum that threaten all sections of society; they'd fight their own brother after a few beers over an offside decision. In my opinion they deserve to have the book thrown at them.
These are low-life scum that threaten all sections of society; they'd fight their own brother after a few beers over an offside decision. In my opinion they deserve to have the book thrown at them.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
I imagine that, having received various threats online from far right activists and followers and considering that, by his account, people were waiting for him outside, it's not too much of a stretch to believe this isn't just a random drunken assault.
But you could easily have predicted those who say it is.
But you could easily have predicted those who say it is.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Which people were attacked that he thought was ok?Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:13 pmAmazing that it's had to be stated so explicitly, but yes thatPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:20 pm Its the principle though, he thought it okay for someone to be attacked for their views.
Seems to me some people are just making up any old sh*t to support the actions of these fascists.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Seems to me that some people are making up any old sh*t assuming they are fascists.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:11 amWhich people were attacked that he thought was ok?Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:13 pmAmazing that it's had to be stated so explicitly, but yes thatPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:20 pm Its the principle though, he thought it okay for someone to be attacked for their views.
Seems to me some people are just making up any old sh*t to support the actions of these fascists.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Can you imagine if lefties had tried to claim the guys who doused Yaxley Lennon and Farage in milkshakes had done so by accident and it had nowt to do with their politics/being racists?
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Why do you play dumb on here nowadays?CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:11 amWhich people were attacked that he thought was ok?Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:13 pmAmazing that it's had to be stated so explicitly, but yes thatPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:20 pm Its the principle though, he thought it okay for someone to be attacked for their views.
Seems to me some people are just making up any old sh*t to support the actions of these fascists.
Farage attacked- make a joke.
When he's the victim, it's the far right marching on Islington.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Tommy Robinson has been attacked lots of times. Do we assume there are gangs of Antifa out every night just waiting to pounce on anyone from the right or do we assume the bloke is a cnut and people love an opportunity to give him a whack. Same with Jones, his views make some people angry. Someone saw an opportunity and gave him a dig.
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When was Farage jumped by 4 blokes and punched and kicked to the ground?Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:00 amWhy do you play dumb on here nowadays?CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:11 amWhich people were attacked that he thought was ok?Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:13 pm
Amazing that it's had to be stated so explicitly, but yes that
Seems to me some people are just making up any old sh*t to support the actions of these fascists.
Farage attacked- make a joke.
When he's the victim, it's the far right marching on Islington.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Imagine comparing Jones to the sh*t stain that is Steven Yaxley LennonBeradogs wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:09 am Tommy Robinson has been attacked lots of times. Do we assume there are gangs of Antifa out every night just waiting to pounce on anyone from the right or do we assume the bloke is a cnut and people love an opportunity to give him a whack. Same with Jones, his views make some people angry. Someone saw an opportunity and gave him a dig.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Why are you so keen to brand them fascists? its weird.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:49 am Why are you so keen on defending fascists? It’s weird.
Why do you not address the point about convincing me they are fascists? Its weird.
I'm no fascist, I just dislike the manner in which anything that happens to anyone of leftward leaning must have happened to them by a fascist.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
I'm no fascist, I just spend an inordinate amount of time defending fascists like any perfectly normal person.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
For what other reason was a well-known left-leaning commentator singled out for a pre-meditated kicking?LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 amWhy are you so keen to brand them fascists? its weird.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:49 am Why are you so keen on defending fascists? It’s weird.
Why do you not address the point about convincing me they are fascists? Its weird.
I'm no fascist, I just dislike the manner in which anything that happens to anyone of leftward leaning must have happened to them by a fascist.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
I think we’ve pretty much done this one to death. Time to move on.
Next up, Thomas Mair - fascist fanny or simply in the wrong place at the wrong time?
Next up, Thomas Mair - fascist fanny or simply in the wrong place at the wrong time?
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Because he was being a plain and simple annoying tw*t in the pub. That's me being as assumptive as you. As for being well-known, he probably hardly registers on the scale.Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:27 pmFor what other reason was a well-known left-leaning commentator singled out for a pre-meditated kicking?LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 amWhy are you so keen to brand them fascists? its weird.CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:49 am Why are you so keen on defending fascists? It’s weird.
Why do you not address the point about convincing me they are fascists? Its weird.
I'm no fascist, I just dislike the manner in which anything that happens to anyone of leftward leaning must have happened to them by a fascist.
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Or just mentally ill?CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:30 pm I think we’ve pretty much done this one to death. Time to move on.
Next up, Thomas Mair - fascist c*** or simply in the wrong place at the wrong time?
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Entitles him to a savage beating then does it?LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:25 pmBecause he was being a plain and simple annoying tw*t in the pub. That's me being as assumptive as you. As for being well-known, he probably hardly registers on the scale.Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:27 pmFor what other reason was a well-known left-leaning commentator singled out for a pre-meditated kicking?LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 am
Why are you so keen to brand them fascists? its weird.
Why do you not address the point about convincing me they are fascists? Its weird.
I'm no fascist, I just dislike the manner in which anything that happens to anyone of leftward leaning must have happened to them by a fascist.
What is it that you dislike about non-violent non-fascists?
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Utterly moronic.Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:53 amWe could even open up the debate about the far left/antifa, who are maybe the most realistic example of fascists around at the current time if we want simple labels.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
The far right definitely know who Owen Jones is
You just need to read the comments to see how much they like him
You just need to read the comments to see how much they like him
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Savage beating? What life threatening injuries did he sustain? He should not have been subjected to this - I've said it repeatedly on this thread. I've yet to see anyone come up with a single shred of evidence that this was the work of fascists or far-right leaning individuals. Got any evidence? No assumptions, because we can't prosecute on assumptions.Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:00 pmEntitles him to a savage beating then does it?LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:25 pmBecause he was being a plain and simple annoying tw*t in the pub. That's me being as assumptive as you. As for being well-known, he probably hardly registers on the scale.Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:27 pm
For what other reason was a well-known left-leaning commentator singled out for a pre-meditated kicking?
What is it that you dislike about non-violent non-fascists?
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted
Bass Canon JakeLittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:54 pmSavage beating? What life threatening injuries did he sustain? He should not have been subjected to this - I've said it repeatedly on this thread. I've yet to see anyone come up with a single shred of evidence that this was the work of fascists or far-right leaning individuals. Got any evidence? No assumptions, because we can't prosecute on assumptions.Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:00 pmEntitles him to a savage beating then does it?LittleMate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:25 pm
Because he was being a plain and simple annoying tw*t in the pub. That's me being as assumptive as you. As for being well-known, he probably hardly registers on the scale.
What is it that you dislike about non-violent non-fascists?
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