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Post by North Stand Loafer »

In some ways I wish we hadn't won today. The glimmer of hope is still alive. Could we just do it? - realistically no but there is still an outside chance of the play offs - its agony.
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It certainly isn't agony when we are not expected to get in the play-offs.
I don't care if we don't make that 6th spot. It has been a good season anyway.
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There’s no hope, we’ll finish in 7th, 2-3 points behind Lincoln. It’s the Orient way.
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North Stand Loafer wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:52 pm In some ways I wish we hadn't won today. The glimmer of hope is still alive. Could we just do it? - realistically no but there is still an outside chance of the play offs - its agony.
I can honestly say that in every way I'm glad we won today .Its brilliant that we still have a chance of sneaking in to the last play off place . However what's frustrating is we seem to have hit a glass ceiling . We don't seem able to close that five or six point gap . Anyway I'm reminded of that old cliche, "Just take one game at a time and see where we end up" .
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whittle76 wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:56 pm It certainly isn't agony when we are not expected to get in the play-offs.
I don't care if we don't make that 6th spot. It has been a good season anyway.
Absolutely this. At least it would be a stress free end to the season .
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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:58 pm There’s no hope, we’ll finish in 7th, 2-3 points behind Lincoln. It’s the Orient way.
Yup it feels like it's destined to come back to that abandoned game. Sporting integrity eh EFL...
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When you sign up to be a Football Supporter, this is what it is all about. People still came to games, even when the Mad Italian was the Main Man!
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Top-ten would be a great achievement. I will be very happy with that.
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Does anyone seriously expect a play-off spot?
We’ll finish where we currently are, which in itself is an impressive achievement considering it’s the first season back at this level and a load of key players have been injured for large spells of the season.

The remaining fixtures will be used to see who is going to be here next season for a serious play-off (and possible automatics) push and who should be binned off in the summer. With the likes of Agyei, Graham, Happe and Archibald fit this team has some serious potential.

I hope some of the duds are sent packing (I’m looking at you Piggott) and some of the passengers buck their ideas up (Moncur). Whilst we’re at it, I hope the club rethinks its strategy of paying racists to serve out bans (for being racist).

If those in charge actually appreciate the importance of having some squad depth & not scrimping on transfers then we have something special here. Our season has been torpedoed by injuries and a terrible January transfer window.
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Bergen wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:25 pm Top-ten would be a great achievement. I will be very happy with that.
Same here
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A few good results and we could have a real shot at it.
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With only 7 games left the next two will show us. Lincoln (who have gone nuclear in the last few months) and Peterborough in 4th. Anything but two wins and I think we are done but get those wins and who knows?
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gshaw wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:11 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:58 pm There’s no hope, we’ll finish in 7th, 2-3 points behind Lincoln. It’s the Orient way.
Yup it feels like it's destined to come back to that abandoned game. Sporting integrity eh EFL...
Don't be so daft ,it's all those other games like Fleetwood and Burton etc that we should have won .
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It would be nice to finish above Stevenage after being below them all season
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Or not crapping for 2 weeks and you die of blood poisoning. Crap, lift, look , flush
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Great midfield
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All part of the joy of being a footballer supporter. Regardless of final position it has been a most enjoyable season. It will be more of a ‘what could have been’ if it wasn’t for the horrendous injury list.

But, it’s still possible for now and if by luck, skill or poor / fortuitous reffing Lincoln and Peterborough are beaten then I’ll really believe. We’ll know by 17:00 on Easter Monday for certain.
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soloman wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:27 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:11 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:58 pm There’s no hope, we’ll finish in 7th, 2-3 points behind Lincoln. It’s the Orient way.
Yup it feels like it's destined to come back to that abandoned game. Sporting integrity eh EFL...
Don't be so daft ,it's all those other games like Fleetwood and Burton etc that we should have won .
Any team that finishes in and around us will have Fleetwood's and Burton's in their locker.
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It's been an amazing season for sure, and I'm happy to think about what might have been but (there's always a but) I don't think we're ready for the next level yet at either a squad or organisational level. If we somehow fluked promotion via the playoffs, for all the excitement, I think we'd get horribly smashed in most games next season and come straight back down. It could set us back years.

I think T&T understand it's an evolution to get there. I'm happy to consolidate in L1 next year, build the team and get all the pieces in place for a proper push when we're ready. Hope that Richie is prepared to stick with us too, but he may want success faster than that.
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A brilliant season regardless of what happens now, at one point it looked like a relegation battle and Wellens had lost the plot a bit, he had a period where very week the starting team seemed wrong then his subs gave the correct team but he and the team have been brilliant last few months with very few what I would guess people would class a proven League One players.
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o-no wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:13 am It's been an amazing season for sure, and I'm happy to think about what might have been but (there's always a but) I don't think we're ready for the next level yet at either a squad or organisational level. If we somehow fluked promotion via the playoffs, for all the excitement, I think we'd get horribly smashed in most games next season and come straight back down. It could set us back years.

I think T&T understand it's an evolution to get there. I'm happy to consolidate in L1 next year, build the team and get all the pieces in place for a proper push when we're ready. Hope that Richie is prepared to stick with us too, but he may want success faster than that.
You can’t fluke your way to the championship. If we did manage to make it, it would be purely on merit.

Also don’t agree it could set us back years. If we are well run then plenty of teams bounce between league one and the championship and then eventually stick
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essexfootball wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:04 am at one point it looked like a relegation battle and Wellens had lost the plot a bit, he had a period where very week the starting team seemed wrong then his subs gave the correct team
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Absolute nonsense. Those that lost faith in Richie after a rough run of results are idiots.
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o-no wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:13 am It's been an amazing season for sure, and I'm happy to think about what might have been but (there's always a but) I don't think we're ready for the next level yet at either a squad or organisational level. If we somehow fluked promotion via the playoffs, for all the excitement, I think we'd get horribly smashed in most games next season and come straight back down. It could set us back years.

I think T&T understand it's an evolution to get there. I'm happy to consolidate in L1 next year, build the team and get all the pieces in place for a proper push when we're ready. Hope that Richie is prepared to stick with us too, but he may want success faster than that.
Hopefully we can throw a few games to make sure we don't risk the clubs long term future by sneaking into the Championship.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:04 am
essexfootball wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:04 am at one point it looked like a relegation battle and Wellens had lost the plot a bit, he had a period where very week the starting team seemed wrong then his subs gave the correct team
:lol:

Absolute nonsense. Those that lost faith in Richie after a rough run of results are idiots.
I don't know about that, before this season Wellens had major question marks over his credibility at this level, many fans of other teams thought that and when it started going downhill, he seemed that maybe it would be going that way again for him
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I do know about that. It was embarrassing to watch it unfold.
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