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So many empty seats for the last few games ,massive gaps in the stands .I know what the official attendance was but it looked more like 5200 ish .
Does make you wonder why we need a new stadium .
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No it doesn’t
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Not sure it matters to the club whether someone is in the seat providing the ticket is sold
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Adz wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:46 pm Not sure it matters to the club whether someone is in the seat providing the ticket is sold
I would think the club would gain from sales of food, drink, merchandise etc if the missing 2,000 or so where there. Plus don’t underestimate the ability of a larger crowd to create an even better atmosphere & cheer the lads on.
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soloman wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:39 pm So many empty seats for the last few games ,massive gaps in the stands .I know what the official attendance was but it looked more like 5200 ish .
Does make you wonder why we need a new stadium .
That's exactly what the devious Hearn made us (or a large proportion, anyway ) think, so he could go along with his flat building. And just look at the situation thats now left us in with the future of Brisbane road..
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PKM wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:15 am
Adz wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:46 pm Not sure it matters to the club whether someone is in the seat providing the ticket is sold
I would think the club would gain from sales of food, drink, merchandise etc if the missing 2,000 or so where there. Plus don’t underestimate the ability of a larger crowd to create an even better atmosphere & cheer the lads on.
The outlets are all franchised so no, at least not directly.
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I may be wrong but I think part of the deal is we take a share of their takings on matchdays. If so it would explain
why the club encourage people to get there a bit early to spend dosh.
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timothy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:14 am I may be wrong but I think part of the deal is we take a share of their takings on matchdays. If so it would explain
why the club encourage people to get there a bit early to spend dosh.
That seems highly unlikely.

The club encourage people to use them as it improves our negotiating position next time around.
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I would be interested to know, how much loot is made from the streaming service. It must be a moderate income on a cold February night. What surprises me, is the low key way that this service is marketed. You really have to hunt around on the Club website to find the link. Hardly encourages the casual punter in to an impulse purchase.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:15 am
timothy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:14 am I may be wrong but I think part of the deal is we take a share of their takings on matchdays. If so it would explain
why the club encourage people to get there a bit early to spend dosh.
That seems highly unlikely.

The club encourage people to use them as it improves our negotiating position next time around.
If I hear any different I'll let you know.
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soloman wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:39 pm So many empty seats for the last few games ,massive gaps in the stands .I know what the official attendance was but it looked more like 5200 ish .
Does make you wonder why we need a new stadium .
I think that what probably frustrates the club is that we could fit many more AWAY fans into the ground if it was bigger.
Derby for example were restricted to around 1250 when they probably could have brought double that amount.
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timothy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:39 am
Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:15 am
timothy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:14 am I may be wrong but I think part of the deal is we take a share of their takings on matchdays. If so it would explain
why the club encourage people to get there a bit early to spend dosh.
That seems highly unlikely.

The club encourage people to use them as it improves our negotiating position next time around.
If I hear any different I'll let you know.
Does the Supporters Club have to pay the club commission on all those egg sandwiches they shift on a match day?

I'm assuming it's egg sandwiches being pumped out in there from the aroma that flows out of the doors?
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Tuesday night or midweek games have never been as popular Saturday. Most Saturday's it looks 90% full and seem to sell out. The club are turning down some on the day ticket sales because of limited capacity. Also statistically we are the club with the most full ground in L1. We could do with a larger stadium. The East Stand is borderline dangerous at times with the amount of fans in the tight undercroft at half time.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 am
timothy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:39 am
Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:15 am

That seems highly unlikely.

The club encourage people to use them as it improves our negotiating position next time around.
If I hear any different I'll let you know.
Does the Supporters Club have to pay the club commission on all those egg sandwiches they shift on a match day?

I'm assuming it's egg sandwiches being pumped out in there from the aroma that flows out of the doors?

We don't sell egg sandwiches, must be something else.
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F or F has raised a question I've raised a number of times - Does anyone have any idea how much revenue comes to the club for the streaming? Every match is available outside UK and exiles like myself never miss a match when it's available here in Wales / UK.
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The way they bang on about pirate streaming/IPTV etc, I'm guessing not as much as they'd like.
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cymruO wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:30 am F or F has raised a question I've raised a number of times - Does anyone have any idea how much revenue comes to the club for the streaming? Every match is available outside UK and exiles like myself never miss a match when it's available here in Wales / UK.
300k.
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cymruO wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:30 am F or F has raised a question I've raised a number of times - Does anyone have any idea how much revenue comes to the club for the streaming? Every match is available outside UK and exiles like myself never miss a match when it's available here in Wales / UK.
I feel like there was a breakdown of streaming numbers at one point, which showed typical viewership of a few hundred per game? So, if the average was say 400-600 viewers = £4,000-£6,000 per game = £184,000-£276,000 for 46 games. Don't know what costs would be taken out of that figure. Presumably the host company takes a significant cut, and presenters/pundits remunerated?
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Oh, Mista has cited (presumably) the figure.
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Wally Banter wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:47 am
cymruO wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:30 am F or F has raised a question I've raised a number of times - Does anyone have any idea how much revenue comes to the club for the streaming? Every match is available outside UK and exiles like myself never miss a match when it's available here in Wales / UK.
I feel like there was a breakdown of streaming numbers at one point, which showed typical viewership of a few hundred per game? So, if the average was say 400-600 viewers = £4,000-£6,000 per game = £184,000-£276,000 for 46 games. Don't know what costs would be taken out of that figure. Presumably the host company takes a significant cut, and presenters/pundits remunerated?
No way are we paying the presenters.
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Wally Banter wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:48 am Oh, Mista has cited (presumably) the figure.
300k was from the latest accounts, no indication of costs. Really can't imagine Joe Widdowson is getting paid big bucks for the analyst role.
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I would imagine they're getting expenses and a chance to seek out a media career or , less likely, a future coaching role.
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They were also very quick to sign up to the Sky deal which takes over from next season, so they can't have been that thrilled by the success of their in-house offer. £300k sounds like a lot, but I think this will also include the audio service as well?
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OyinbO wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:26 pm They were also very quick to sign up to the Sky deal which takes over from next season, so they can't have been that thrilled by the success of their in-house offer. £300k sounds like a lot, but I think this will also include the audio service as well?
So will the existing streaming not be available from next season at all?
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o-no wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:58 pm
OyinbO wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:26 pm They were also very quick to sign up to the Sky deal which takes over from next season, so they can't have been that thrilled by the success of their in-house offer. £300k sounds like a lot, but I think this will also include the audio service as well?
So will the existing streaming not be available from next season at all?
The Club haven't said much about their plans, but this is what Sky are saying
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