Wellens charged by the FA

[Story of O]

Don’t think Nigel will be best pleased considering Richie previously said he promised him he wouldn’t get sent off again

Maybe but Bolton were blatantly cheating and the West side linesman wasn't doing his job properly .

Didn’t anyone notice Galbraith constantly doing exactly the same? Whether the officials were right or wrong, they were consistent. RW was wrong, it’s in the laws, the red was correct.

But the Bolton player took it to another level

[Hoover Attack]

It's embarrassing seeing people try to justify what he did.

[George M]

It's embarrassing seeing people try to justify what he did.

You are clearly not an Os fan. Manager , team , fans , stick together. If you want to support a team of losers with a weak manager , probably best you buy a Charlton season ticket

[CEB]

There’s a difference between being a fan and being an idiot

[Hoover Attack]

It's embarrassing seeing people try to justify what he did.

You are clearly not an Os fan. Manager , team , fans , stick together. If you want to support a team of losers with a weak manager , probably best you buy a Charlton season ticket

What about booing bad players or chanting for the manager to go when we lose lots of games?

[Dohnut]

Maybe but Bolton were blatantly cheating and the West side linesman wasn't doing his job properly .

Didn’t anyone notice Galbraith constantly doing exactly the same? Whether the officials were right or wrong, they were consistent. RW was wrong, it’s in the laws, the red was correct.

But the Bolton player took it to another level

No he didn’t. Galbraith took so much advantage in the first half the referee once made him go back. He did, then did a walk, then run then throw stealing massive yardage. Surprised the officials let him get away with it. He was consistent in stealing yards all game.

Bolton did the same. We even stole massive yardage on one fee kick. This stuff is routine in matches. If referees pulled it up every time they would be accused of being over fussy.

The issue is that when we do it, great. When the opponent dies it it’s wrong. That’s just bias The referee was consistent in his leniency. Good or bad.

RW was wrong on so many levels. According to the laws the referee was right. Annoying as that is. RW needs to work on that aspect of his self discipline. It rubs off onto the players as we have seen this season. Top management need to have a private word with him.

[EliotNes]

RW was wrong on so many levels. According to the laws the referee was right. Annoying as that is. RW needs to work on that aspect of his self discipline. It rubs off onto the players as we have seen this season. Top management need to have a private word with him.

I agree with these sentiments.

[Hoover Attack]

Didn’t anyone notice Galbraith constantly doing exactly the same? Whether the officials were right or wrong, they were consistent. RW was wrong, it’s in the laws, the red was correct.

But the Bolton player took it to another level

No he didn’t. Galbraith took so much advantage in the first half the referee once made him go back. He did, then did a walk, then run then throw stealing massive yardage. Surprised the officials let him get away with it. He was consistent in stealing yards all game.

Bolton did the same. We even stole massive yardage on one fee kick. This stuff is routine in matches. If referees pulled it up every time they would be accused of being over fussy.

The issue is that when we do it, great. When the opponent dies it it’s wrong. That’s just bias The referee was consistent in his leniency. Good or bad.

RW was wrong on so many levels. According to the laws the referee was right. Annoying as that is. RW needs to work on that aspect of his self discipline. It rubs off onto the players as we have seen this season. Top management need to have a private word with him.

Agreed with your assessment of what was happening in the game.

Don't fully agree Richie needs to work on his self discipline. Yes, he clearly oversteps the mark on occassion (such as Saturday) but I'm prepared to accept that for everything else he brings.

[Chief crazy horse]

Oh, so you reckon he does clearly overstep the mark "on occasions'"! And I see ,also, that you don't think he has much of a problem with his self discipline ?....Joke post of the year so far.
Unless you're related, which of course explains all.

[StillSpike]

Without researching it much, it does feel to me like our disciplinary record in the last couple of years is really poor. Of course, that might be that refs are more card-happy around things like timewasting and answering back etc, but it does feel to me like we're a less disciplined team than in previous times.

Happy to see some stats that prove otherwise, but if we are less disciplined then that comes from the manager's lead. I have a huge amount of time for Richie and all he's done for the Club, but this is (the) one area where I wish he'd improve.

[CEB]

Unfortunately, certain toxic individuals on Orient related social media set the tone, and the normalisation of abuse and no consequences for very odd behaviour is clearly starting to impact the morale of the playing squad, and even the manager

[BIGRON]

So if Richie has until today to respond when do we know his fate ?

[Mistadobalina]

His chippy attitude (not just on the sidelines) is why he isn't managing at a higher level yet. He's been on generally good behaviour with our board but you see it sneak out time and again where he's not happy with something. He's not good at biting his lip and it'll be a put off for some clubs.

[Hoover Attack]

Oh, so you reckon he does clearly overstep the mark "on occasions'"! And I see ,also, that you don't think he has much of a problem with his self discipline ? Joke of the year so far.
Unless you're related, which of course explains all.

I didn't say he doesn't have much of a problem with his self discipline. I just said he doesn't need to work on it. People with this level of fire win things.

(In an absolute ideal world he'd tone it down the 1 or 2% required to just about stay in the boundaries but that's the risk with pushing things at the edge).

[Hoover Attack]

His chippy attitude (not just on the sidelines) is why he isn't managing at a higher level yet. He's been on generally good behaviour with our board but you see it sneak out time and again where he's not happy with something. He's not good at biting his lip and it'll be a put off for some clubs.

He should rein it in a bit like Fergie/Wenger/Mourinhio/Klopp/Pep etc etc

[Proposition Joe]

Without researching it much, it does feel to me like our disciplinary record in the last couple of years is really poor. Of course, that might be that refs are more card-happy around things like timewasting and answering back etc, but it does feel to me like we're a less disciplined team than in previous times.

Happy to see some stats that prove otherwise, but if we are less disciplined then that comes from the manager's lead. I have a huge amount of time for Richie and all he's done for the Club, but this is (the) one area where I wish he'd improve.

Tbf, we've also been significantly more successful over the past 2 years than we were when we were picking up fewer bookings in L2. We're not a dirty side - I remember Wimbledon booting us all over the park before Moncur's lovely winner last season and couldn't be watching that every week - but if this is part and parcel of us being harder to beat and winning more games, I'm in.

[Mistadobalina]

Naive if you don't think all of those lot weren't savvy when they needed to be. Klopp Wenger Pep and Fergie have all been very diplomatic with their owners, and a lot of comes from knowing when to act up and when not to.

Wellens has managed 5 clubs in 7 years, he's 6 weeks away from this being his longest serving job. It's definitely not a question of talent, and by his own admission his temperament is a bit questionable at times and spills over into stuff like what happened last Saturday. Getting sent off regularly is a definite put off to a prospective employer.

[Proposition Joe]

Sent off regularly? How many times has he been dismissed while in charge of us? Same number of times as Omer Riza (unless there's another one I've forgotten).

[Mistadobalina]

Twice this season, which is quite a lot seeing as managers rarely get sent off.

[Proposition Joe]

Ha, completely forgot about the other one. Still, not convinced his temperament is as much of an issue as is being made out, particularly regarding the number of clubs he's managed. At least 3 of those 5 were basket cases.

[Chief crazy horse]

Oh, so you reckon he does clearly overstep the mark "on occasions'"! And I see ,also, that you don't think he has much of a problem with his self discipline ? Joke of the year so far.
Unless you're related, which of course explains all.

I didn't say he doesn't have much of a problem with his self discipline. I just said he doesn't need to work on it. People with this level of fire win things.

(In an absolute ideal world he'd tone it down the 1 or 2% required to just about stay in the boundaries but that's the risk with pushing things at the edge).

OK then, so you don't think there's too much need for improvement with Wellens' discipline? That's about right isn't it ?

[Constanza]

I enjoy his spiky character but he can't be entering the field of play etc. Wouldn't want him banned so he should reign it in a bit, during the matches at least.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Personally I wouldn't change a single thing about Richie . I love the mans passion which is part of what makes him such a good manager. I would much rather have a manager like Richie than somebody like Kenny Jackett who just stood there like a statue . Anyway it was the West side linesman's fault for getting Richie sent off by allowing Bolton to blatantly cheat .

[gshaw]

Couldn't care less how bad our disciplinary record is, the only record that matters is points on the board. In that regard last season was fantastic and as it stands this one is in line with (Kent Teague's) expectations.

Carry on Richie, you don't get a medal for playing fair in professional sport

[Chief crazy horse]

The argument as not really caring about his disciplinary record as long as we keep winning is all very well. The frustrating thing with Wellens is that his behaviour is not like he's physically aggressive or anything. He doesn't get in fights or pushes the 4th official etc. What he's getting pulled for is all so petty. Getting a red card over a throw in for example ! It's playground stuff. That's why, as I've said before, he needs to grow up and mature more. I'm all for Richie being our manager but for heavans sake he should take a look in the mirror and sort himself out.